With Majorie Ray

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Well, we're back again and it's
so good to hear from you again.

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I want to encourage folks who
are just tuning in or have been

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with us that this is as much
about you as it is about me

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exploring the 5th Epical
Revelation, a revolutionary

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spiritual document we know as
the Ranch Book.

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And we are going to be blessed
to have a guest coming in.

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We've had her on before.
Her name is Marjorie Ray.

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A little bit about Marjorie.
She is a scientist at heart,

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actually a retired biochemist,
she was given the Rancho Book

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about 45 years ago.
John Mills, also a trained

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scientist, was an early and
profound influence upon her

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studies, and after she graduated
in Florida, Margie became a

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scientist at the University of
Alabama, Birmingham.

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Birmingham, such a great city,
having participated in some of

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the largest science endeavors on
the planet, including six NASA

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Space Shuttle missions, a Soyuz,
and one SpaceX mission to space

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station, Margie continues to
find coherence in both science

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and personal religious
experience as it is revealed in

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the Urantia Book.
Now in her 7th decade, she hopes

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to be more service to the
Urantia Book community.

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And boy is she.
We're going to spend a lot of

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time talking about the present
state of the Urantia movement,

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what fascinates her about the
teachings, and so much more.

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There is an upcoming scientific
symposium that's going to be

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available for people to watch
online.

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And it's going to feature an
array of of great thinkers who

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also happen to be ardent
Durantia book students talking

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about a wide range, a scientific
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So we're looking forward to
that.

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And Marjorie is coordinating it
along with a team of great

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supporters.
And I also want to give a real

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big thanks to Joanne Strobel for
helping to coordinate, but not

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only some of the people that
we're speaking to, but behind

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the scenes doing so much great
work for the Urantia Foundation.

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So we'll be joined by Marjorie
Ray on the other side.

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Hang on.
We'll continue in just a moment.

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You're listening to the Urantia
Radio Podcast, and I'm your

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host, Jim Watkins.
So welcome back and we're going

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to talk about what's coming up
at this Science Science

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Symposium.
But before we jump into that, I

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do want to talk to you about
various events that you've been

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telling me about.
And one of them up in San

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Francisco not long ago.
And you mentioned you were also

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in in Israel not long ago.
You've been doing a lot of

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traveling and it sounds like
you're meeting with a lot of

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different folks from all over
the place, part of the growing

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Urantia community, and I'm very
excited about that.

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Can you share some of the more
exciting things that have been

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going on that you you've been
able to experience?

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Well, yeah, thank you, Jim, for
having me, first of all.

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But yeah, I've been pretty
fortunate.

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I've been lucky.
I didn't get to go to Israel,

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but our friends, the rememberbs
that do live in Israel, met me

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in Greece and I was there for a
family wedding.

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I went early so that I could be
with Gabriel and Sandra and we

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just had a lovely time.
We made the trip to Corinth, to

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ancient Corinth.
And of course we read the the

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paper with when Jesus was there
with Gainad.

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And I read that in the car as as
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Corinth.
And so we were all just so

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excited and the museum there is
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And they finally have found the
stone that represented that.

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They know where the synagogue
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Corinth.
And they had only unearthed that

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in the last few years.
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deal.
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that and see it and it was just
really exciting to, I mean, they

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live in Israel.
So they, you know, they, they're

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there all the time where Jesus
walked, but I have never been.

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So I, this was the first time I
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a place where Jesus had actually
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And so I, I have to say, I was
just awed that I was standing

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and walking on the same ground
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you know, while he was here as
Jesus.

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So that was just so much, just
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And Greece is just such a
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are just wonderful.
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And then I went to a rancher
book retreat that was sponsored

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by the Golden Gate Society in
Menlo Park a week before last

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and it was just so much fun.
And Paula Thompson was a

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facilitator and we got to spend
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and his teachings and how we can
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things out of our life that are,
you know, that kind of his life

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has informed perhaps our lives.
And it was just a it was very

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inspiring, really.
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It was in a beautiful place in,
in Menlo Park that was had

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gorgeous gardens and we got to
walk in it and it was good.

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There's just so many wonderful
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I'm on the the IC is going to be
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committee for for that.
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tomorrow that will be next
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So that's a big thing that's
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know, work on your calendar July
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the International Conference.
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The Solomar is also an amazing
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conferences that based on
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ethical use of science had been
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we're getting ready to, we're
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meeting at.
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exciting for me as a, as a
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There's just so many other
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so many different organizations,
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I'm, I'm very active in the
Center for Unity and we're

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rolling out projects all the
time and it's just exciting to

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be a part of that.
You know that all those projects

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that are that are coming.
So you'll be hearing and seeing,

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if you follow the Center for
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new stuff roll out over the next
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Some of it is going to is
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actually, the amount of work
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it's produced.
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I'm excited for the future of
the revelation.

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I just think we're, we're, we're
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you know, being very effective
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Yeah, I, I talked earlier, it
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Urantiathan, which, you know, I
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Oh, yeah.
I can't wait.

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Yeah, yeah.
I did You go to the last.

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The last one was there's this
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I talked with April Helen when
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she, she knows this young lady,
that young lady, she was only

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like 16 when she talked the last
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I think she's going to talk this
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She is absolutely fantastic.
She is going to be one of the

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great leaders of the revelation,
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Africa, I don't know which.
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her speak, you just realize that
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brilliance there and so much
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spirituality in this young lady.
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So I can't wait for the your,
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erasure.
I, I listened to every minute of

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it last time.
It was great.

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And so I'm really looking
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So for sure.
You seem seems like we're at a

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can maybe a tipping point.
Would you say maybe that there's

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enough awareness now?
We're, we're, we're not quite

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mainstream, but we're getting to
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know.
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we're going to make some, some
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next few years.
I'm 76 now.

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I hope it's going to be in my
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It's it's there's just, well,
it's because there's a lot of

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need.
You know, people are, are with

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all of the chaos that's going on
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are still looking for, you know,
they're, they're still

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spiritually seeking.
They're looking for, you know,

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comfort and, and, you know,
resolution to, to the questions

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that they have in their, you
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their minds.
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sort of ripe to, to present the
revelation is an alternative way

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to look at the history of, you
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humans evolve and how our,
particularly our spiritual

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lives, you know, evolve.
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much so.
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concerned, you know,
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cosmology or, or, you know,
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whole deal, there's, there's
just more and more discoveries

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made all the time that, you
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closer to what is in, in the
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And so we actually have the Jeff
Taylor is going to sort of take

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that whole topic on and and his
topic at the symposium is, is

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the Urantia book scientifically
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And he looks at a a number of
assertions, scientific

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assertions in the book and
relates them to things that have

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been published or, you know,
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OK.
And so it, that should be a

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very, very, you know,
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Then that would be a very that
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admission.
You know I.

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Was going to dovetail on that.
I've seen more now than I've

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seen in a while.
There's more scientific

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assertions that that that
through science and mathematics,

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they're being able to recognize
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we recognize as being indicative
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intelligent design and so forth.
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much of A pushback A pushback.
Would you say that despite our

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best efforts, are we becoming
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Well, I mean, I of course, the
adjectives are certainly, you

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know, and, and, and all of all
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and ours is pushing us.
Hopefully that, you know, that

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way.
I think that, that, you know, we

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have this huge group of young
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are rejecting organized religion
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They, they just don't have a
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time or energy into that because
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don't find relevance or, or
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with it.
They can't accept some of the

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tenants or whatever their reason
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seekers and they are are they
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you know, for something.
They know that there is many

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things greater than themselves
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to, to put it all together for
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And so, yeah, I think so.
I think, you know, the the next

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the millennials on are are much
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about globally, maybe not in
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States, particularly because
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tremendous holes on, you know,
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And that's just got to work
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But at the worldwide, I think
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certainly in South America,
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just, you know, everything's
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I mean, it's just that's where
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people are.
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majority of the young people
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Revelation, that's where they
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We have to take note though, or
I, I sense it with the death of

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Kirk and now with the Israel and
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going on, which is pretty
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at least that's the way it's,
you know, I see it and you know,

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clearly things there's like a
yearning for less war and more

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peace on, on the on the street
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Now, maybe that's not the case
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but it does seem that people
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They're looking for answers that
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and they're not getting it from
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It's, you know, that we, we we
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loneliness, you know, and all
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towards.
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evangelists and the Urantia book
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keep, you know, we're
anticipating that something big

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is about to happen.
Do you get that feeling too from

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talking to people in the Rancho
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anticipating something or?
I'm not trying to say that there

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is, I'm just wondering 'cause
that seems to be what?

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I'm seeing from the Christian.
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be the end times and all that
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the Urantia book, there's always
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that Jesus is going to come
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I mean, that we've had people
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know, right after he, he, he
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They still thought he was coming
tomorrow, You know, and there's

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still there are people within
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that.
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now that think that he's, you
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in Tom's and he's going to, you
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But if you're well grounded in
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realize that we may be in a time
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or, you know, when things are,
are really chaotic and there are

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times that's that that societies
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then that allows them to move
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OK.
And so, you know, it's that

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statement about, you know,
sometimes your most, you know,

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it has to do your, your most
cherished idea or whatever has

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to die for it to be reborn into
something new and better.

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really well grounded in the
arrangement book realize that

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this is just, you know, a phase.
And we are just like those 1st

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century Christians, you know,
our job is to make sure that it

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moves forward, that it goes
forward, that it doesn't, you

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know, become a dusty old book
that's on some old library

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shelves and, and nobody ever,
you know, engages with it at

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all.
OK, that's our job.

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That's our job now.
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just like it says in the book,
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and, and women that, you know,
that can present a modern, you

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know, every generation has to
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and that it calls for that in
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And I think we, you know, when
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realize that that's our
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get it from our generation and
and secured in the next or even

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the next in the next before we
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And so, so, you know, we, we
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lot of the people that I talked
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like me, we're, we're, you know,
we're getting ready to see one

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of the greatest shifts of, of
financial shifts that's ever

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occurred in mankind from one
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baby boomers leave the planet
and leave their, all of their

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resources off on the millennials
or, you know, whoever.

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So it's it's a, you know, a time
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our responsibility to make sure
that things, you know, things go

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forward in into the future.
What are what are we going to

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leave, you know, for our young
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in the future?
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And so a lot of older people are
are really thinking along, you

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know, along these lines that are
part of the movement that I've

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been I've been speaking with,
you know, we're we're trying to

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encourage young people to, you
know, get involved and, and, and

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the what it takes to move the
revelation, you know, forward so

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that it doesn't become a dusty
old tone that nobody ever wants

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to refer to, you know, or
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There's other areas that need to
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I mean, it, it doesn't have in
the, the book itself needs for

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it to get to go forward is it's
got to eventually develop some

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academic, you know, credibility
and that's going to take a lot,

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a lot doing.
We got a lot, we got people that

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are working on that area too.
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So yeah, you know.
It's looking at the upcoming

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itinerary.
For example, many of the people

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that will be presenting at the
do you like the Zoom format as

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opposed to the symposium where
the old days where people would

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actually travel.
Do you think it'll ever get back

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to that at some point?
Or have we all just decided we

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don't like to travel?
Because I think there's a

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different vibration when you're
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Oh, yeah.

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I totally, yeah, I totally.
We, we originally planned on

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this one being, you know,
originating at the foundation

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and I was going to be at the
foundation for the, for it.

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And, but we, a number of our
presenters, and if you look down

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this, this list of people that
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exception of of one or two or
three guy, the rest majority of

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them are, you know, they're,
they're of my generation or even

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a little older, OK.
And so, and now that they're

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distant people like Nigel Nunn,
that's in Australia, he, he came

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to the first one and that it,
and that was very difficult

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'cause, you know, just getting
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awake and, and when we were all
awake, it was really difficult

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for him, you know.
And so, and with Gabriel being

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in Israel, you know, and they're
both, both presenters, it's, it

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makes it really tough.
So being.

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Virtual it, it makes it a little
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Then some of our older
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situations that were not going
to allow them to travel, even

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though in the past they had
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they were not in a position to
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It just did.
It turned out there was only

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going to be me and maybe 1-1 or
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So it, we moved it back to being
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I hope you know one day that
that the, you know, that the

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symposium will be in person, but
it will be in person in a much

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larger format, You know, where
there are people that can come

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to it and, and sit in the
audience and listen and engage

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with the scientists on a
personal basis at dinner and

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lunch or whatever.
And, and ask and have a lot of,

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you know, a lot of good
conversation because that's what

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really stimulates people.
I mean, it's one thing to listen

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to a Zoom, but and even ask a
question on a Zoom, but it's a

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different thing when you're
sitting across the table from

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somebody and, you know, looking
into their eyes and and asking

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them and having a personal
conversation, you know?

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Absolutely.
I think trade shows of all ilk.

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I think we could probably be in
a position maybe to sponsor an

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event where we would welcome
clergy and people of science and

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people of anthropology and have
them all sit in in one room and,

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and under we would choose the
itinerary of the topics about

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how to integrate these sciences
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So I see a great future and
we're we're getting there.

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I think we'll get there
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What you know, I, I've been
giving a lot of thought to two

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things.
One is the Seraphic planetary

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government, which I've been
reading and talking about,

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thinking about.
And I and I seem to see like,

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yeah, for those who don't know,
Paper 114, terrific read.

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And it talks about what angels
actually do and how they engage

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with us and, and that they have,
they have lives, they have jobs,

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you know, they, they all, it's
think of it in terms of a

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parallel reality.
It's occurring in the same time

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that we're in, although their
perspective different because

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they're, you know, eternal
beings.

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But be that as it may, they're,
they're integrated.

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They have the 12 councils,
different groups of angels and

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seraphim that work on different
aspects of human progress.

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And I found it inspiring to know
that we're not in this alone,

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that there are forces as the
Urantia book.

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And it's one of the big reveals
of the Urantia book, is that we

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really do exist in an ecosystem
of sorts.

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We just don't know it.
Right, right.

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We, we, we, we think we're
hanging out by ourselves, but

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we're not.
Yeah.

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I mean, there are more important
things going on.

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What you said a little while ago
about the transfer of moving

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forward and making sure that we
can serve what the Urantia book

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has to say so that the next
generation also finds it and it

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doesn't get lost.
And I think that's one of the

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topics I think they're talking
about in the symposium to

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carrying that knowledge forward.
I certainly take that as is the

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the driving force behind these
podcast.

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I, I think touching people where
they are and assuming that they

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don't that know that much, just
like the Melchizedek ministers,

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you know, the, the, the, the
ones that went out, what do they

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call those?
The missionaries, You know, they

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took what Melchizedek taught
them and then they went out and,

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and tried to teach it to the
masses as best they could.

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And I, I, I kind of take that as
this role.

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What drives you?
I mean, does, does that not

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drive you?
We're talking about a revelation

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here, right?
It's pretty important.

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Right, You're, you're talking
about a revelation.

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But you know, for me, you know,
personally, you know, because

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religion, your, your spiritual
belief in your religion is very,

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you know, very personal.
But it's my relationships with

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other people and working in
groups to, you know, learn or,

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or to, to learn enough that we,
we and to, to push it, you know,

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push it down the road, you know,
down to the next generation.

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It's this, this personal contact
with these, you know, people.

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It's like the 10 people that are
going to be giving these papers.

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OK, I, I know all these people.
I've known them for, you know,

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some of them for quite a number
of years and we've had some

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really deep, you know, deep
conversations, but yet we, we

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all, you know, we share the
revelation, but our, our in our

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lives, we work it personally,
it's very personal, it's very

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individual.
We know that we are absolutely

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unique in how we do that, you
know, And so it, it's the, for

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me, it's this, this contact with
my brothers and sisters.

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It's my, it's this thing about
I, I have all of these

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wonderful, wonderful brothers
and sisters out there.

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And the more of them I can meet
and work with and talk with and,

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and do projects with and, and
just experience this amazing

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life that we've been granted.
That's what drives me.

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I mean, literally, I mean,
talking to people like you, you

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know, and, and just I've been
doing some podcasts with

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Santiago Nealon and we've been
doing it.

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We've been talking about Star
Wars, OK, because I love Star

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Wars.
But anyway, and, and but it's,

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you know, the archetypes and
stuff in Star Wars, young people

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can relate to that, that sort of
stuff.

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And so and you can talk to them
about Star Wars and you can also

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say, but you know, Luke made a
choice to do this or, you know,

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somebody did this or they were
looking for redemption.

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You know, you can talk about
things like seeking forgiveness

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and seeking redemption or, you
know, in, in terms that in very

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modern terms of because, you
know, we live with our

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generation and the one after
have lived a lot of our lives

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watching movies, you know, And
so there are ways that you can

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point these sort of things out
and young people, you know, kind

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of resonate with it.
OK.

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And that's that's all you wanna
do is just, you know, resonate

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with them so that they they
continue to seek, continue to

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look for, you know, wholeness in
themselves and their

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relationship with God.
And and, you know, don't feel

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alone, you know, no, don't feel
that we're alone out here.

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That that's yeah, I certainly.
Maybe you know.

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Yeah, yeah, I, I don't, I
certainly do not feel that.

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I mean, even though I'm here in
my, my little house with, even

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though I have a fantastic garden
and I have wonderful neighbors

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and I live in a great community.
I, you know, I'm, I'm often in

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here working on different
projects and stuff, but I will

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tell you, I never feel alone.
I just do not feel alone.

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I just feel like I'm surrounded
by all of all of these things

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that, that want things to, to be
good for us, you know, and I

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just don't, I'm not, I'm not
lonely.

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I don't, I'd have no, you know,
I, there's just, God has given

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me too many blessings to feel
lonely.

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So, so and I, I want to express
that to other people that, you

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know, this, this.
Yeah.

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That is it.
That's it.

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You nailed it.
Yeah, you, yeah, you can get to

441
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:26,240
that place, you know, and so,
but a lot of it is, is just

442
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,760
engagement, you know, engagement
with other people.

443
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,400
So I appreciate the chance to
talk to you, you know.

444
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,920
You know, I wonder, like of all
these people in there, all these

445
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,520
wonderful people that are coming
up, you're even you yourself.

446
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,200
I've always made it a point that
my closest friends, people that

447
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,720
I've known for a long time, know
that I read the book and and I

448
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,600
don't go into too much of it,
but I make it clear, you know,

449
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,480
I'm out of I'm an out of the
closet Urantia guy.

450
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,680
You know, if somebody you know,
but how many of us are are there

451
00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,040
that where where we boldly will
bring it up or, you know, not

452
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,320
have any issue.
But surprisingly, this is the

453
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,200
lesson that I don't, I, I
haven't learned is that nobody

454
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,680
asks questions.
Very few people ever ask what

455
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,600
does it say about this or what
does it say about that or what

456
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,720
is it?
What's the Urantia viewpoint on

457
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,640
that?
Wouldn't that be great if that

458
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,320
kind of dialogue?
Because then that way it's, you

459
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,320
know, it kind of goes back to
when Lena Sadler and Bill Sadler

460
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,680
were first introduced to the,
the sleeping subject.

461
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,440
And it was the thing that Lena
said which sort of got the whole

462
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,760
thing going, which was why don't
we ask it a question?

463
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,760
You know, why don't we ask the
sleeping subject a question

464
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,480
about something we want to know?
And it was, that's the, you

465
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,280
know, the proverbial, you know,
you can what?

466
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,560
You know, what was the
expression about the key?

467
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,840
The door is open.
All you have to do is walk in.

468
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,520
So and.
I think that's, well, yeah, I I

469
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,240
agree with you on that.
But I think a lot of times when

470
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:03,480
people don't ask you the, the,
you know, a question when you've

471
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,040
been quite obvious.
I mean, it's like a lot of

472
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,640
people will, you know, is what's
come up with me is when somebody

473
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:17,680
says, but you're Christian and I
go, no, I'm not, you know, and

474
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,640
they go, well, well, yeah.
And they go, well, what are you?

475
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,080
And I said, I'm Jesus Sonian.
And they say, well, can you

476
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,480
explain the difference?
Yeah, well, can you explain the

477
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,160
difference in the 2.
And so then we, we get into a

478
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:34,680
conversation, you know, about,
about that and why I have come

479
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,320
to the, you know, to believe
that.

480
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,280
And, and a lot of times the
conversation doesn't go any, you

481
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,600
know, a whole lot further than
that.

482
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,880
But then there are times when
it, you know, well, how did you,

483
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,880
you get there?
And I said, well, you know, and

484
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,040
then I start talking about, you
know, finding the Urantia book

485
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,520
and how it had changed my life
and things like that.

486
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,760
Then a lot of times, you know,
not a lot of times, sometimes

487
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,120
you'll get, you know, further
questions.

488
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:04,000
If after that they don't ask you
a question, I've kind of come to

489
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,560
the, you know, opinion that
they're just not ready.

490
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,520
You know, they're, they're,
they're, they're just not ready.

491
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,640
Otherwise, I think they're they
don't know.

492
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,680
What's inside the box?
That's the thing they do.

493
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,640
They really no one can possibly
know everything that it of.

494
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,480
What makes it such a of
revelatory profoundness?

495
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,160
Really, when you get into the
deepness and the nooks and

496
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,600
crannies of the book, you start
to realize how profound it is

497
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,480
that we're being given this
information.

498
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,200
And I've had conversations with
people about that.

499
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,360
It's like there's two miracles
going on #1 is the fact of what

500
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,680
it's saying and then and then
sort of getting this new

501
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,720
conceptual understanding of the
universe.

502
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,360
And then two, the fact that
they're saying it, that the

503
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,800
information has been
communicated to us in such a way

504
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,240
where we now have the IT is this
conversation I had whether you

505
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,400
ranch book reader not long ago.
And and we were talking about, I

506
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,680
think it was Gabriel actual and
you know, he he had made the the

507
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,480
the point that this had to this
message was approved.

508
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,360
There it it.
There was a lot of work that

509
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,000
went into making this book
possible and that in itself.

510
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,680
Is well, they, they had to,
yeah, they had to get, yeah,

511
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,360
they had to get permission, You
know, I mean, it was not like

512
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,280
they just said, oh, let's do
this, you know, that's not how

513
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,320
it happened.
And ultimately Michael had to

514
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,840
sign off on it.
So this in a way, is he and, and

515
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,240
when that conversation is kind
of interesting because, you

516
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,840
know, they say, well, what are
we telling them too much?

517
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,880
Do we give too much of it away?
I mean, this is kind of

518
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,480
everything, isn't it?
And and, and Jesus would have

519
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,800
had to say, you know what?
I think they're ready for it.

520
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,600
I think that they might be ready
for it.

521
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,560
And we've got to trust these
people.

522
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,280
I mean, it's such a significant
thing that Jesus created this

523
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,120
Advisory Board after his
resurrection of the four and 20

524
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,840
elders.
And the same Advisory Board also

525
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:02,720
offers their expertise of the 36
other rebellion seared worlds.

526
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,240
So he thought very highly of
this race.

527
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,480
I think in those travels through
the Mediterranean and getting to

528
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,680
know people, I think he looked
at us and said, man, these

529
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,280
people have so much potential.
I see great things for these

530
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,880
people.
I'm so glad that I came here and

531
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:24,040
I and I, you know, that that is
such an exciting thing to think

532
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,720
about.
And that's why we're where we're

533
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,240
at today.
I think why we're going through

534
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,520
so many challenges.
I think he's got a lot of

535
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,240
confidence that we're going to
be just OK, we're going to be

536
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,240
all right, right.
That we'll, we'll find our way,

537
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,960
you know, we'll find our way
through and even, you know, in

538
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,240
the when, when you get maybe
really down on the, the current

539
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,600
situation where wherever you
are, whatever country you live

540
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,920
in that and they're, they all
seem to be facing some challenge

541
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,200
this day.
You know, ultimately I, I

542
00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:00,760
believe, you know, goodwill
always went out, you know, in,

543
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,120
in the end.
Now it may be, it'll be 1000

544
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,840
years, but it, it will, you
know, we will move toward light

545
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,199
and life.
And I, and this is the thing

546
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:16,280
where I where I think it's so
important that you, that for me

547
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,760
that it's, it's very personal
because you know, in that part

548
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,880
where it says that, that, you
know, Jesus loved men, you know,

549
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,120
I mean, and he loved them
because he, he got to know them,

550
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,400
you know, he got to experience
them.

551
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:38,920
He and, and it may have been
just in passing by, but he, he,

552
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,760
he was, you know, he didn't
ignore what was going by him,

553
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,400
you know, and, and so it's
incumbent for us to, to do the

554
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,239
same thing.
And that's the reason these, you

555
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,280
know, personal contacts, whether
it is the, the person you know,

556
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,520
that stops me at the in the
Walmart parking lot and looks at

557
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:03,880
my bumper sticker, which is
about the discoverjesus.com app

558
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,400
from the, the, the Center for
Unity.

559
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,080
I've got that on the back of my
car.

560
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,480
I can't tell you how many people
have stopped me in the parking

561
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,320
lot.
This one guy, he goes, I'll

562
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,440
follow him.
And I said, so do I, you know,

563
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,920
and, and, and I had said you
ought to go look at the, at the

564
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:20,840
website.
And he said, OK, he took a

565
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,400
picture of it with his phone and
he said I'll do that.

566
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,400
And I said good.
I think it's got really pretty

567
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,360
art and I think you'll find it
really interesting, you know,

568
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,280
and I mean that's, that's
happened to me like 5 times in

569
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,680
the Walmart parking lot.
I mean it's.

570
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,720
Just.
But, you know, it was that

571
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,520
that's what it takes.
But it's just that personal, you

572
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,840
know, contact with another,
another one of our siblings.

573
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:47,840
That is where for me, that's
where it's, you know, where it's

574
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,240
at, so.
Well, Marjorie, I, I, I always

575
00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:53,920
enjoy talking with you about
stuff.

576
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,760
And the symposium, it's coming
up in November and it's going to

577
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,800
feature a bunch of guests.
It's over a kind of a long

578
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,440
period of time.
So this is going to be one of

579
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,160
the longer, I guess sign.
How long is it?

580
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,440
It's like 3 days or.
Something well it no, it last

581
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,040
it's on we had we compressed it
to Thursday and Friday.

582
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,920
They're they're five talks on
Thursday and they're five talks

583
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,040
on Friday.
They'll they'll yeah, there will

584
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:25,920
be Joanne will be sending out.
If you're on the the mailing

585
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,360
list for the foundation, you
will get a notice.

586
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,200
But if not, just go to
foundation or you can go to, you

587
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,160
know, and and ask to, to, to be
in it.

588
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,200
It's on the foundation website.
Yeah, erasure dot.

589
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,760
Org is the right, Yeah.
And then just go to the events

590
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,160
page and you'll find it pretty
easily, yeah.

591
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,280
Yeah, yeah.
And you just say you want to be

592
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,920
part of it and you'll get the
invitation a day or so ahead of

593
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,120
time so that you'll have the
link and be able to come in and

594
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,480
you can come in.
I mean, it's a, it's, it's long.

595
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,840
I we not understand that.
And there but you, you will have

596
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,000
the order and what it and some
of them may be more interesting

597
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,720
to you than others.
Just come in and watch the ones

598
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:13,640
that you want.
Also, if you can't on those

599
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,760
days, interact within about a
week to 10 days after the

600
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,640
symposium.
They will all be put up under

601
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,320
the events page on on the
foundation and on their YouTube.

602
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,160
So you will be able to access
them and hear them too.

603
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,600
And you can actually read the
papers that each one of the

604
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,120
presenters has written.
A lot of times you want to look

605
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:40,440
at their paper because you, you
see all the references and

606
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,000
things that they actually, you
know, because they've, they've

607
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,840
written a paper that gives you
references where they pull

608
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:46,920
things.
That's great.

609
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,680
And, and read things.
And so you, you really should,

610
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:53,240
you know, if, if you get real
interested in the topic, look

611
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:56,640
there, that may send you to some
place that you find really,

612
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,680
really, you know, interesting.
So, and, and they usually have a

613
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,960
lot of quotes and references to
the, you know, areas in the book

614
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,320
too.
So that's that's real helpful at

615
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,160
times.
OK.

616
00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:10,880
And then again the date is
November 6th and 7th. 7th,

617
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,120
right?
That's a Thursday and a Friday.

618
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:15,960
OK, terrific.
And thank you so much.

619
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,200
You must be very busy and
excited and all that.

620
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,120
I really, I couldn't be in a
better place and I'm glad you're

621
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,400
there.
And we didn't really talk much

622
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,800
about your background, but I
think in the previous podcast

623
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,440
you and I talked about some of.
The more scientific.

624
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,000
Aspects So go back in time and
look up some of the old

625
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,520
interviews with Marjorie.
She's crazy.

626
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,240
So anyway, but thank you so
much, Jim.

627
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:44,880
And I do hope, you know, your
listeners will consider spending

628
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,240
at least a little time with the
symposium.

629
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:51,360
And we have amazing presenters.
And then they spend a lot of

630
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,680
time and energy, you know,
making these presentations and

631
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,680
talks.
And, you know, they're very

632
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,240
committed to what they're doing,
and I'm very grateful to them

633
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:05,360
for doing it.
So just enjoy the fruits of

634
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:12,000
their labor.
And we sure appreciate being

635
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,800
able to catch up with Marjorie.
And again, I hope that you can

636
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,800
participate.
If you want to find out more,

637
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,000
just go to the Urantia, yeah,
the foundation and look for

638
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,400
events, 2 day event, a lot of
great speakers, many of whom

639
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,120
George Parks, Gabriel Reinberg,
others, Nigel Nunn, others,

640
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,520
perhaps many of you've met or
had an opportunity to speak with

641
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,240
over these wonderful years.
All right.

642
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,960
And again, if you've got a
question or comment about the

643
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,360
Urantia Radio Podcast or about
the Urantia book, best way to do

644
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,840
so, go to yourrancherradio.org
and you can reach me there

645
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:50,080
through the contact page or you
can simply e-mail and the e-mail

646
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,760
address
urantiabookradio@gmail.com.

647
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,440
Until next time, God bless and
thank you for being a part of

648
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,040
this episode of the Urantia
Radio Podcast.

649
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:57,160
The.
None.