Three Kinds of Death

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Welcome to the Urantia Radio
Podcast.

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My name is Jim Watkins, longtime
reader and student of the 5th

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Epical Revelation.
And on this episode we're going

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to talk about force.
We're going to talk about power

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and space and all kinds of
interesting and fascinating

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topics that are coming to light,
no pun intended, with regards to

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contemporary science and how it
interplays with Urantia

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revelation.
So we're going to get to a lot

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of interesting information and I
hope you'll hang out with me and

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enjoy the ride as we continue
with the Rancho Radio Podcast.

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Welcome to the Rancho Radio
Podcast.

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And I do mean that when I mean
welcome.

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I am so humbled by the wonderful
feedback that I get from people

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who check out the podcast and
some of the people that have

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been listening to a long time.
And I always get these

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incredible questions and
comments from listeners and I

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may try to find a way to share
some of them here.

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But I want to talk about what's
happening in space right now.

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And then I also want to talk
about what's happening here on

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the planet and some other
thoughts that I have to share

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about the process of death.
And death is is always a

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complicated issue.
And what prompted it was the

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passing of a dear old friend who
I found out recently, someone

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who I've known for 40 years and
who was in many ways a mentor to

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me.
He was a fellow broadcaster who

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had hired me and through our
relationship of employer

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employee, we actually grew to
become really good friends.

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And he was about 2020 years my
senior.

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He had a very illustrative past.
He was a colorful man.

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He grew up in the Las Vegas area
and I got a chance to get to

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know his wife and his children.
One time.

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I even dressed, dressed up as
Santa Claus to his young

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children.
It was a delightful memory.

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And we just kept in touch and he
passed away and it was a too

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sudden.
He was a man who took care of

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himself.
He was inspiring, very active.

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But it you know, when this
happens, you start to think

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about things.
It just, it has a profound

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effect on you and you can't help
it.

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The effect that it has is
obviously inversely proportional

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to how much they mean to you in
your life.

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And he meant a lot to me and I
was.

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I was saddened because he had
just moved to this part of the

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country where I'm at and we were
then.

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We were then 100 miles of each
other and I had planned on

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meeting him and seeing him and
spending time frequently, but

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all of that was short circuited.
And I I I think when we talk

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about death and then we're going
to get to power in the universe

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and some of the other stuff
that's going on.

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But I just want to spend a
moment with this, because it's

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an important distinction that
the Urantia Book brings up how

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we view death and the process of
death.

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And the question I have for you
is, what's the greater sin?

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What is the greater sin?
Someone who has chosen to

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disbelieve in deity.
Someone who has no conceptual

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foundation, and they don't even
want to have a conceptual

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foundation about religion.
And there are a lot of people

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that don't want to have anything
to do with religion.

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There's a reason they they call
themselves the nuns.

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And I've had talks with fellow
Uranchovic readers about this,

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and there's no question in my
mind that Western culture is

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going through a phase where a
lot of people and it's become

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politically expedient to be an
atheist or to be a materialist.

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So I ask you, what is the
greater sin?

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And I say that, you know, I'm
using sin because it's a

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powerful world word and people
know what it means, is what's

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the greater disloyalty to not
believe in God or not to believe

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in deity principles or to
believe them, but you reject

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them, which is what Lucifer did.
Lucifer rejected the idea of

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their being a deity and
therefore the rules don't apply.

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Why all the rules?
Why can't we just have total

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entitlement to self liberty and
explore our own journey or find

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our own path?
And that is a philosophy that

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permeates materialism.
Materialism or or agnosticism

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simply says that there is no God
and there is no purpose for all

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of this and that we just have to
live our lives.

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And then there are people who
believe in God or they believe

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in God and or they believe that
there's some purpose but they

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choose to ignore it in their
life.

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It doesn't have anything to do
with their thinking or their

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philosophy.
There's still a materialist.

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They don't deny God, but they
just don't have any

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relationship.
And I say, what is the greater

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sin?
And what I'm What do I mean by

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that?
Well, what I mean is what are we

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going to be held accountable to
assuming there is a God,

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assuming there is an afterlife?
The assuming that we continue on

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and we retain our personalities
and we retain our memory and we

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wake up and we are in another
place and we begin to recognize

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our previous life and our
memories start to come back to

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us.
And then we go through the

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process of seeing others who
have made, who've been liberated

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from the flesh and are now
ascended beings and they're on

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their way.
Well, it's interesting to note

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that I think the Urantia book
defines really three forms of

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death.
And that's what I kind of want

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to get into just briefly here
because I think this answers the

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question.
So the first kind of death is

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the brain, or the body just
ceases to function.

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For whatever reason.
Our consciousness is no longer

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active and the electrochemical
reactions inside of our minds

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are no longer responsive,
reactive.

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Our life vehicle is no longer a
living Organism and as a

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consequence of that our brain
doesn't function and our mind

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needs a place in which to
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So the second form of death, it
may not necessarily be the death

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of the body, but the mind is no
longer properly functioning

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because of a disease, some form
of impairment that makes it

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impossible for the brain to
function normally.

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And we'd see.
We, of course, obviously we see

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this with people who have
dementia and Alzheimer's or

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people that suffer catastrophic
brain damage, but their body

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continues to function.
But the way the revelators say

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is that the universe
authorities, they look at that

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person as being dead, even
though their body is still

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working because there's no
chance that there's going to be

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any.
It's fair to say that the

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thought adjuster probably leaves
the spirit fragment of the

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father that is in doubt in our
minds probably takes exit

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because the the the brain of the
individual, the personality, is

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no longer able to function
properly within the mind.

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The body still works, but the
mind is.

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Then there's a third form of
death, and they call that the

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death of the spiritual, and this
is outlined in paper 112 and

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Section 3, and it says spiritual
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is when a man has finally
rejected survival when he has

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been pronounced spiritually
insolvent, when such coordinate

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advice has been recorded.
Thereupon do the rulers order

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the immediate release of the
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And this kind of death is final
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irrespective of the temporary
continuation of the living

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energies of the physical and
mind mechanisms.

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That's from one paper 112,
Section 3.

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From the cosmic standpoint, the
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The continuing life merely
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material momentum of cosmic
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So what does that mean to reject
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And that kind of gets me to my
point.

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And I don't like to interpret
these these pages.

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I like to have you read them in,
but for the sake of our

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discussion, what it means is if
you're rejecting survival, it

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means that you do not believe in
the plan.

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You are not subscribing to the
plan.

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It is not the plan that you
believe is possible.

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And therefore you have adopted a
philosophy of life where you cut

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yourself off from that spiritual
insight, that spiritual thought

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of the continuance of your
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And so in in many ways, it's a
form of spiritual suicide.

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Now, a person who is not
spiritual would not be concerned

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that they are cutting themselves
off from the universal mind

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because they don't even believe
that it exists.

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So how many people do you know
have adopted this philosophy?

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How many people in positions of
authority adopt this, this

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general secular position and in
no way will accept the idea of

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spiritual survival beyond the
moral estate?

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Well, I hate to break it to you,
but there are a lot of people in

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the world who do reject
survival.

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They don't want to have anything
to do with it.

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It is the adoptive way of
thinking for many cultures.

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And it goes it explains why in
certain cultures religion

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offends them, why people get
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It's interesting that certain
religions are more offensive

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than others.
Christianity seems to really

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offend people who are of a
progressive or a scientific mind

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and they believe in scientism
which is that everything can be

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explained with science.
If science doesn't explain it,

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it doesn't exist.
So but then you have governments

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like China and North Korea.
I was just reading the BBC has a

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new movie out about what life is
life like in North Korea from

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people who have escaped.
And and I've of course seen,

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I've read two or three books on
the subject and and seen YouTube

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videos and it's it's
unbelievable.

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In fact if you go back to my
early early episodes, you hear

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me sort of reference and there's
a bit of panic because just

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thinking that there's 50 million
people, probably more than a

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billion people on this planet,
who are suffering specifically

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because they put their faith in
God.

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And that's just, it takes, it
takes your heart away.

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But atheism and the reputation
of deity is a philosophy of

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living.
One either believes conscious

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life has a continuance or they
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One believes either they will be
held account for our actions on

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Earth, and then the conduct of
such a person has value.

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If one believes there is no
possibility of survival, then

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every act on earth reflects that
philosophy.

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I believe there's no greater
choice of a human being with

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sole potential to make.
And that's why I bring it up.

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Because the Urantia Book is a
revelation.

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It is telling us.
It opens the door to this grand

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perspective of of survival, of
continuance.

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I was just watching this Dick
Bane thing he did on Astronomy.

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You might want to look it up.
It's easy to find.

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Just type in in your search
engine, your ranch of astronomy

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and you'll find a presentation
he has on Pinterest.

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And boy, the the grandiose size
of the universe is just

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humbling.
When you think of how much there

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is in in the grand super
universe, it is humbling and the

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Urancha book fills in what that
whole universe is about.

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Interesting.
So we're being given a book.

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It's not popular, it's not it's
growing, but it's not in the

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mainstream.
And it's a shame because I think

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a lot of people like I, I I was
thinking you know Elon Musk,

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Elon Musk, who I have a lot of
respect for because of his

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entrepreneurial spirit and his
insight.

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He could use the Urantia Book.
Think about if we had these

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people in very powerful
positions who could adopt the

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Urantia book philosophy.
He wouldn't want to build and

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try to come up with this idea of
moving people off planet to live

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on the moon or live on Mars.
If I, I think if if someone, I

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was talking to that friend of
mine who's been on the program

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about projects that he wants to
do with Urantia book.

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And I said, well, you got to try
to find venture capitalists,

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people that are willing to
invest because this book is so

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cutting edge and if you get the
right people, they'll help you

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with your projects.
And I said, man, I'd love to get

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this in the hands of Elon Musk
because his worldview, the

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worldview, a lot of these people
that are in great positions of

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authority and power is actually
devoid of God.

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They don't know this plan.
They don't know the Morontia

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life.
They don't know about the

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formation of the nebula.
And there's they continue to the

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persistent reject the idea of it
because science has has

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convinced them that if it can't
be proven, then it must be

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rejected.
So a lot of people will will

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come up with the argument hey
look if I don't believe in God

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and I'm wrong, you know what
will he say?

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And and I think that's the thing
that they miss is that you have

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to be committed to the idea.
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perspective.
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Urantia book aims to do, is give
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And it's it's quite amazing
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and power force directors.
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of part three of the book where
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beginnings of our universe and
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system.
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there is an there is a mention
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universe was brought into
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Michael's creation of Nebadon.
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inspector a spiritual inspector
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go out and they've survey the
land in in this case the cosmic

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landscape and they make a
determination is is there enough

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space and are the conditions
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11121 to build his his his local
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And these inspectors are
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Trinity spirits, and I believe
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the infinite spirit.
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created for this specific
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I want to just pause on that.
The Urantia Book goes to great

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lengths to explain that there
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personality types and they have
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They they have a specific
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You have divine ministers, you
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solitary messengers.
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descriptive of what they do.
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human life because we have
people that were born and they

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have incredible music talent,
and so they get into music and

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they provide music to the world.
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mathematical geniuses and they,
if they have the proper

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conditions and life works out
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were born are then put to use in
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So it's not unlike the human
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creation filled with people who
have specific talents, specific

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purposes, specific jobs.
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just happened to go out and pull
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It says that in the arrangement
book he actually filed a permit

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and reported his findings to the
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And then several billion years
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construction workers, here come
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all these all these beings that
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and they begin the spin.
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right and it causes a a moment
where there's a world of energy

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and from that initial spin
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spits out almost a billion Suns.
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And that provides to me a
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like an Elon Musk, because it's
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Elon Musk could conceive of
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He could say that would be
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legitimate because then it takes
the mystery and the superstition

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out of religion and it moves it
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science, faith, philosophy.
So, and there's new discovery

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going on.
They've just come out with two

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reports.
They're now identifying proper

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exoplanets and they're
discovering, just as the Urantia

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book outlined, that life might
be more, there would be more

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life if we could find it.
Let me put down this Life is

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more likely to occur on smaller
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which is exactly what the
Urantia Book says is common in

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our universe.
Life always seems to appear more

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commonly on smaller satellites
of larger planets, not

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necessarily like us, where we're
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And that's something that the
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revealing.
Also, they're finding that there

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are large clusters of smaller
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around.
This is a new discovery that you

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can find if you go on
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I have a column that has all
these new scientific articles

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that are being released every
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So again, our science is showing
us the the view of our universe,

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which is more commensurate with
with the Urancha book.

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And that's where I think we'll
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We've spent 20 minutes talking
about a lot of deep things.

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And again, just it's kind of a
recap, you know, it does matter.

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We have to be in the game to
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I believe that the greater
offense, you know, we talk about

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the greater sin is to not know
about God and not know about the

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beauty of deity and the supreme
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To me, if you're ignorant and
you don't know, you can't reject

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it.
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deity, that to me I think is the
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And I also think that is our
greatest challenge right now is

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we have people who have rejected
even the notion of living in a

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universe that is filled with
life and they're satisfied with

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just the material realm.
And that set that to me seems, I

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think, rather sad.
So we'll leave it there.

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And I appreciate you stopping
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Don't forget you can always
e-mail me

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urantiabookradio@gmail.com
urantiabookradio@gmail.com next

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time up.
We're going to spend a little

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time, I think, talking about,
well, an interesting story about

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race.
We'll pick up that subject again

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just a little bit on the next
episode.

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Stay tuned.