The Mind, the Brain and the Soul

1
00:00:21,100 --> 00:00:23,600
Welcome to the ranch a podcast
on Jim Watkins.

2
00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,100
It's always a pleasure to have
you here.

3
00:00:25,100 --> 00:00:28,600
We've got a really good podcast
for you and just a little bit.

4
00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,000
We're going to play our
interview with brother, Joshua

5
00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,200
Wilson who resides in Arizona
and northern part of Arizona

6
00:00:36,300 --> 00:00:38,700
long time.
Urantia book reader with quite a

7
00:00:38,700 --> 00:00:43,900
story to tell and he has chosen
to publish an essay which is

8
00:00:43,900 --> 00:00:49,200
entitled The master and his
Emissary and it is based on the

9
00:00:49,300 --> 00:00:52,900
previous writings of a gentleman
from Yale, who did a study in

10
00:00:52,900 --> 00:00:57,400
2009, gentleman by the name of
Ian mcgilchrist, who had a

11
00:00:57,408 --> 00:01:01,300
thesis on the to brain
hemispheres and how the brain

12
00:01:01,300 --> 00:01:04,900
functions and how the brain
operates and what each of these

13
00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,700
hemispheres do, which
corroborates, interestingly

14
00:01:08,700 --> 00:01:13,100
enough and unintentionally.
So Ian McCulloch, McGill, Chris

15
00:01:13,100 --> 00:01:16,600
work actually does corroborate.
Many of the statements the

16
00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,000
Urantia book makes in its
discussion of the thought

17
00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,900
adjusters and the in what the
Mind does and what the mind is.

18
00:01:24,900 --> 00:01:29,700
And now if you ask most people,
you know, is the mind, a product

19
00:01:29,700 --> 00:01:33,100
of the brain or does it act
independently of the brain?

20
00:01:33,100 --> 00:01:36,500
Can the to be separated is the
brain or the Consciousness,

21
00:01:36,900 --> 00:01:39,900
something separate than the
brain.

22
00:01:39,900 --> 00:01:44,900
Can it exist without the brain
Most people would probably tell

23
00:01:44,900 --> 00:01:50,500
you no, but we're going to talk
about why the mind is a separate

24
00:01:50,500 --> 00:01:53,700
function of the brain and how
the to correlate.

25
00:01:53,700 --> 00:01:57,200
And all of this is going to be
discussed coming up here on this

26
00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,900
edition of your Rancher, radio
the podcast and will be joined

27
00:02:00,900 --> 00:02:45,800
in just a moment.
Before we begin with our

28
00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,100
interview on the mind and the
brain and how it works.

29
00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:52,200
Talk about some of the
statements that are made in the

30
00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,600
Rancho book and how they're
corroborated by another study

31
00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,400
that was done in 2009 by a
gentleman from Yale Iain

32
00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,300
mcgilchrist.
Just so we're going to bring all

33
00:03:00,300 --> 00:03:04,500
of this together, but I want to
highlight a particular paper in

34
00:03:04,500 --> 00:03:08,600
the Iran, Chabot to give us a
premise of some of the things

35
00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,100
that we're going to be talking
about here.

36
00:03:10,100 --> 00:03:11,900
And I want to see if they
resonate with you.

37
00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,500
These are some pretty powerful
and impact of words and it comes

38
00:03:15,500 --> 00:03:19,800
from paper 111 on the subject.
It's a paper on the adjuster and

39
00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,500
the Soul.
Now, the adjuster is the

40
00:03:21,500 --> 00:03:24,500
thought, adjuster, and for those
who aren't familiar with the

41
00:03:24,500 --> 00:03:28,300
Rancho books, concept of the
thought, adjuster, think of the

42
00:03:28,300 --> 00:03:30,600
thought.
Adjuster Stir as the spirit of

43
00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,700
the father.
It is actually a fragment a

44
00:03:33,700 --> 00:03:37,700
spirit fragment of the heavenly
father and it resides in US

45
00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,900
throughout our entire lives.
And it comes to us when we are

46
00:03:41,900 --> 00:03:46,200
children and we make that first
moral choice, think of the

47
00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,600
thought, adjuster as God's way
of trying to reveal spiritual

48
00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:55,800
truth to us throughout our life.
Because that is essentially what

49
00:03:56,100 --> 00:03:59,900
this the spirit does.
And I'll start to read, I just

50
00:03:59,900 --> 00:04:02,600
want to go through this, and
it's such such a collection of

51
00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,300
beautiful statements, and I want
to give you a chance to enjoy it

52
00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,200
and then we'll go into our
interview with mr.

53
00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,100
Wilson.
So paper 111, the adjuster, and

54
00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:16,000
the soul that it reads,
intellectual cells have their

55
00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:20,200
origin in the cosmic mind much
as nebula take origin in the

56
00:04:20,208 --> 00:04:24,000
cosmic energies of any universe
space is not Amazing.

57
00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:29,700
So just as our minds take origin
in the cosmic mind is

58
00:04:29,700 --> 00:04:34,400
Illustrated physically by the
fact that our own sun takes

59
00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:38,400
origin and nebula.
And that amazing concept on the

60
00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,500
human, hence, personal level of
intellectual selves, the

61
00:04:41,500 --> 00:04:47,200
potential of spirit Evolution
becomes a dominant with the

62
00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,700
assent of the Mortal mind
because of the spiritual

63
00:04:49,700 --> 00:04:53,400
endowments.
Of the human personality

64
00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,900
together with the creative
presence of an entity point of

65
00:04:56,900 --> 00:05:02,700
absolute value in such human
cells, the material self must

66
00:05:02,700 --> 00:05:07,400
choose to cooperate with the
indwelling, adjuster, or spirit

67
00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,100
in creating, and fostering.
The morontia self The

68
00:05:12,100 --> 00:05:14,900
evolutionary and potentially
Immortal Soul.

69
00:05:14,900 --> 00:05:19,200
So, it is, it is a partnership
between ourselves choosing to

70
00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:24,000
cooperate with God that
Contributes to the eventual

71
00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:29,200
appearance of our Immortal.
Soul material mind is the arena

72
00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,000
in which human personality.
Human personalities, live are

73
00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:37,000
self-conscious, make decisions,
choose God or forsake Him

74
00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:41,000
eternalize or destroy themselves
material.

75
00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,500
Evolution has provided you a
life machine, your body.

76
00:05:44,900 --> 00:05:48,500
The father himself has an
endowed you with the purest

77
00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:53,200
Spirit reality known in the
universe, your Not a gesture but

78
00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,200
into your hand subject to your
own decisions has been given

79
00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,400
mind and it is by mind that you
live or die.

80
00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,900
It is within this mind and with
this mind that you make those

81
00:06:06,900 --> 00:06:12,000
moral decisions which enable you
to achieve adjuster likeness and

82
00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,400
that is God likeness mortal mind
is a temporary intellect system

83
00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,500
loan to human beings for use
during a material Lifetime and

84
00:06:20,500 --> 00:06:23,600
as they use this mine, And they
are either accepting or

85
00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,400
rejecting the potential of
Eternal existence.

86
00:06:28,700 --> 00:06:32,000
Mind is about all you have a
universal reality that is

87
00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,300
subject to your will and the
soul will Faithfully portray the

88
00:06:36,300 --> 00:06:40,500
Harvest of the temporal
decisions which the Mortal self

89
00:06:40,500 --> 00:06:45,700
is making human.
Consciousness rests gently upon

90
00:06:45,700 --> 00:06:50,500
the electro, chemical mechanisms
below and delicately touches the

91
00:06:50,500 --> 00:06:54,100
spirit above.
And it is not so much what mine

92
00:06:54,100 --> 00:06:57,800
comprehends as what mind desires
to comprehend.

93
00:06:57,900 --> 00:07:02,700
And that ensures survival mind
is the cosmic instrument on

94
00:07:02,700 --> 00:07:06,400
which the human will can played
the discords of Destruction or

95
00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,400
upon which the same human will
can bring forth the Exquisite

96
00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,100
Melodies of God identification
and consequent.

97
00:07:14,100 --> 00:07:17,800
Eternal survival mind is your
ship.

98
00:07:17,900 --> 00:07:22,000
The adjuster is your pilot, the
human will is Captain.

99
00:07:22,300 --> 00:07:26,500
The master of the Mortal vessel
should have the wisdom to trust

100
00:07:26,500 --> 00:07:30,400
the Divine pilot.
To guide the ascending Soul into

101
00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:35,000
the morontia harbors of Eternal
survival with your consent.

102
00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,800
This faithful pilot will safely
carry you across the barriers of

103
00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:43,400
time and the handicaps of space
to the very source of the Divine

104
00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:48,700
mind and on Beyond, even to the
paradise father of Adjusters.

105
00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,200
I was reading an article by
Dennis Prager, the talk show

106
00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:09,400
host a couple of days ago, and
he was talking about our desire

107
00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:14,500
to worship and Prager noted
something, which is should have

108
00:08:14,500 --> 00:08:16,200
been obvious.
But he says that, what

109
00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,300
distinguishes human beings from
all of our out?

110
00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:25,300
Other animal relatives, is that
we have a desire to worship, but

111
00:08:25,300 --> 00:08:30,000
it isn't something that our
survival is contingent upon.

112
00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,900
In other words, we eat, because
if we didn't eat, we would die.

113
00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,600
If we didn't have sexual
relations, our species would

114
00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,700
die.
So these are things that that

115
00:08:40,700 --> 00:08:44,600
are wired into us, hardwired
into us for our own Survival.

116
00:08:45,300 --> 00:08:49,100
But Prager says, when it comes
to worship, that's an urge to

117
00:08:49,100 --> 00:08:54,400
find truth, but that urge has
nothing whatsoever to do with

118
00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,600
our physical survival.
But it's there, and it's real,

119
00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:02,500
because human beings share the
ability, and the desire to

120
00:09:02,500 --> 00:09:05,200
worship.
And so his conclusion, Vision.

121
00:09:05,500 --> 00:09:08,400
And it's sort of the premise of
we're going to talk about is

122
00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,700
that we are hard-wired to search
for God.

123
00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,000
And so with that, let us begin
our interview segment of this

124
00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,400
podcast here on your Ranch radio
talking with Joshua Wilson.

125
00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,600
And what caught my eye on this
particular subject.

126
00:09:24,700 --> 00:09:29,600
Is this paper that appeared on?
Where did I find it on Facebook?

127
00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,500
It's called thought adjustment
between the two brain.

128
00:09:32,500 --> 00:09:37,000
Hemispheres, a book Review with
his commentary on the master and

129
00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,500
his Emissary, The Divided brain
and the making of the Western

130
00:09:40,500 --> 00:09:45,200
World Iain mcgilchrist, Yale
University, press 2009.

131
00:09:45,900 --> 00:09:49,300
And then this is your
presentation based on the works

132
00:09:49,300 --> 00:09:53,700
of Iain mcgilchrist.
And brother, Joshua Wilson joins

133
00:09:53,700 --> 00:09:58,600
me here on this program.
So Josh we were talking about.

134
00:09:58,900 --> 00:10:01,900
We saw we're doing a
pre-interview and we were

135
00:10:01,900 --> 00:10:05,400
talking about your history with
the ranch of papers is and how

136
00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,900
you founded the the greater
Grand Canyon Society in Arizona.

137
00:10:09,900 --> 00:10:12,300
Is that correct?
Yeah.

138
00:10:12,300 --> 00:10:17,200
The Grand Canyon Society is the
direct book.

139
00:10:17,500 --> 00:10:22,700
Fellowship Society in Arizona.
And tell me a little bit about

140
00:10:22,700 --> 00:10:25,500
that and you're a native of
Arizona.

141
00:10:25,500 --> 00:10:28,600
So tell me a little bit about
that and how you got involved

142
00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,800
with the book and then how
you've got come to as best as

143
00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,200
you can in 37 years.
I suppose we have a lot of

144
00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:41,500
ground to cover.
Yeah, i-i've been reading the

145
00:10:41,500 --> 00:10:49,100
book since 1977 and then we
operated a study group for 37

146
00:10:49,100 --> 00:10:56,100
years And one of the study
groups in Arizona when I was

147
00:10:56,100 --> 00:10:59,500
involved with that, ran for
quite a while.

148
00:10:59,500 --> 00:11:04,000
Yeah, a lot of great friendships
with continue on to this day a

149
00:11:04,008 --> 00:11:09,700
lot of edge.
Projects conferences, put on,

150
00:11:09,700 --> 00:11:15,900
and so on and so forth.
So we've really enjoyed boosting

151
00:11:15,900 --> 00:11:21,100
and spreading the good news
about the Revelation here in

152
00:11:21,100 --> 00:11:24,200
Arizona and in the southwest,
you know, I haven't checked

153
00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,500
lately, but I know, you know,
there's a lot of groups in

154
00:11:28,500 --> 00:11:32,600
California and Florida seem to
be areas where there's a lot of

155
00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,800
interest.
Is that the case also in Arizona

156
00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,200
with Readers.
Are you seeing faces more

157
00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,600
frequently?
It study groups.

158
00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:50,400
We're I would say we're holding
pretty pretty much steady and

159
00:11:51,500 --> 00:11:57,000
there's always the efforts to
connect with with more people

160
00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,400
and with young people and we
have, you know, from time to

161
00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:08,400
time some interesting things
going on at our Jubilee of

162
00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:13,200
Jubilee celebration.
Last May 18th here in the

163
00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,000
Phoenix.
The area and folks from around

164
00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:21,600
the state came and a lot of
young people that type of

165
00:12:21,608 --> 00:12:24,600
things.
So yeah, we try to keep keep in

166
00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:31,200
touch and keep things moving.
What was it about the book?

167
00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,600
Everybody likes to talk about
some of the early days when they

168
00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,700
first found out, what was it
about the book that appeal to

169
00:12:36,700 --> 00:12:40,000
you, Josh?
Yeah, well I was part of the

170
00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:44,300
Jesus movement.
So what I was in college as a

171
00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:48,500
music student At Arizona State
University.

172
00:12:49,700 --> 00:12:55,000
I was led to Christ by my
friend.

173
00:12:56,100 --> 00:13:02,700
And I had a pretty powerful
born-again conversion experience

174
00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:08,200
at that time, as a kind of
frustrated college student.

175
00:13:09,100 --> 00:13:13,300
Well, it happened at that time.
That there, the Jesus movement

176
00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:20,500
was going on and Peter Max
drawing or painting of the face

177
00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:23,900
of Jesus Christ appeared on the
front of Time Magazine.

178
00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,900
I would Jesus Christ.
Superstar playful 700

179
00:13:29,100 --> 00:13:32,100
performances at the Mark Heller.
Auditorium in New York.

180
00:13:32,100 --> 00:13:34,400
I mean it was a really happening
thing.

181
00:13:34,500 --> 00:13:40,700
Yeah, and young people were just
no one could wonder where it

182
00:13:40,700 --> 00:13:43,900
started.
It was, it was really just like

183
00:13:43,900 --> 00:13:47,700
when Jesus said you hear the
sound of the wind blowing but

184
00:13:47,700 --> 00:13:50,100
you don't know where it comes
from or where it's going.

185
00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:55,700
Those kind of like that it was
just a Revival and I was part of

186
00:13:55,700 --> 00:13:57,600
that.
Well, that was a great

187
00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:05,400
experience and I grew my hair
long and my beard long and a lot

188
00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:11,700
of Hitchhiking around, we would
do we called witnessing on the

189
00:14:11,700 --> 00:14:16,800
street so we were just go out
and talk to people just just a

190
00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,100
great time.
But after a few years, it seemed

191
00:14:20,100 --> 00:14:28,500
to To die down as winds that
blow tend to do.

192
00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:39,500
And then I found myself, like a
man in the trying to wring out

193
00:14:39,500 --> 00:14:46,100
front.
One more drop of water for

194
00:14:46,100 --> 00:14:52,000
sustenance.
And praying for for help,

195
00:14:52,700 --> 00:14:54,900
praying for a relationship with
God.

196
00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:01,700
Well, at that time, one of my
old friends, from the Jesus

197
00:15:01,700 --> 00:15:06,600
movement had moved to another
city down, Southern Arizona.

198
00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,600
And I went to visit him and lo
and behold.

199
00:15:10,900 --> 00:15:12,800
He had a year actual book on the
Shelf.

200
00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:22,400
And that's another story.
Take too much time to go into

201
00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:26,300
it, but I've written my Memoirs
and I do quite a bit of writing

202
00:15:26,300 --> 00:15:27,900
an essay so you can read all
about it.

203
00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:31,700
It's just, it really was an
amazing one of those Angelic,

204
00:15:31,900 --> 00:15:37,500
God stories, but just to be
brief, I'll say that, boom, I

205
00:15:37,500 --> 00:15:44,600
found that I had been asking.
For help and learning about who

206
00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,400
Melchizedek was.
And the first passage in the

207
00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:53,800
book opened up to A description
of Mac event a Milky stick.

208
00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,700
Yeah.
So it was an answer to prayer.

209
00:15:57,300 --> 00:16:06,300
I found out about it and it lit
a fire under me in 1977 October

210
00:16:06,900 --> 00:16:10,200
that has not died down.
Since was there.

211
00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,100
Any particular reason why you
didn't just go, the mainstream

212
00:16:14,100 --> 00:16:18,800
route, you'd found the Lord and
you were caught up in the

213
00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,300
movement of the, you know, that
Period.

214
00:16:21,700 --> 00:16:25,000
Which I have hazy memories but
but you did have.

215
00:16:25,700 --> 00:16:27,600
Yeah.
But you you you walked away

216
00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,700
feeling dissatisfied.
It's interesting to me.

217
00:16:30,300 --> 00:16:35,300
Yeah, yeah, well I was but I had
a lot of family members and

218
00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,600
involved with church.
Its end up going both, both

219
00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:50,000
directions simultaneously and so
I became the pastor And over

220
00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:58,500
seven year period delivered over
300 sermons, that taught the

221
00:16:58,500 --> 00:17:03,000
concepts of the Iran-Contra
book, very particularly in

222
00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,500
strongly, however it was coached
are couched.

223
00:17:07,599 --> 00:17:11,200
I should say in the language of
the Bible, the stories of the

224
00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,900
Bible, That's fascinating to me
because it was it successful.

225
00:17:16,500 --> 00:17:18,800
Did you get people that?
So, where did you get that from?

226
00:17:20,099 --> 00:17:31,000
Sometimes I'm in a positive way
because I know marriage is

227
00:17:31,008 --> 00:17:33,600
stronger.
Are you familiar with Meredith

228
00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,300
Springer?
You must be, oh, yeah, yeah.

229
00:17:36,300 --> 00:17:40,700
United Church of Christ passed
away a couple years ago but, you

230
00:17:40,700 --> 00:17:45,500
know, he he too would try to
include the concepts of the you

231
00:17:45,500 --> 00:17:49,700
be into his, you know, his
sermons and I've always been

232
00:17:49,700 --> 00:17:51,300
fascinated.
Fascinated by how one could do

233
00:17:51,300 --> 00:17:54,200
that and then what would happen
if somebody came up to you?

234
00:17:54,700 --> 00:17:56,200
Because there have been times
when I've been talking to

235
00:17:56,200 --> 00:18:00,000
Christians and I'm a, I would
say something to them that is

236
00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:03,500
referencing a part of the book
of the fourth part of the the

237
00:18:03,500 --> 00:18:05,000
UB.
And they'll say, I don't

238
00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,400
remember Jesus ever saying that,
where'd you get that from, you

239
00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,900
know?
And of course I don't but that

240
00:18:10,900 --> 00:18:12,700
has not been in general your
experience.

241
00:18:12,700 --> 00:18:15,500
Well, that's good.
So you're a pastor musician,

242
00:18:15,500 --> 00:18:17,200
writer.
You've had this book in your

243
00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,200
life, you and it has been
Assistant.

244
00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,400
I would imagine a lot of people
who, and I can even speak for my

245
00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,900
own experience.
The, the book is so consistent

246
00:18:27,900 --> 00:18:32,400
over the years, it never fails
to deliver and provoking some

247
00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,700
sort of thought which kind of
brings me to your your paper,

248
00:18:35,700 --> 00:18:40,900
which is why I wanted to have
you on is Joshua Wilson, explain

249
00:18:40,900 --> 00:18:46,400
to me this this essay, this book
review of of the works of Ian

250
00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,100
and I am I pronouncing that Iain
mcgilchrist who wrote about The

251
00:18:50,100 --> 00:18:53,700
Divided break.
So that caught your eye and I

252
00:18:53,708 --> 00:18:56,900
found what you what you walked
away was fabulous.

253
00:18:57,300 --> 00:19:00,000
I want to just kind of read one
a little paragraph here, kind of

254
00:19:00,008 --> 00:19:03,200
set the stage and then we could
talk about it in mcgilchrist

255
00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,900
view, the master is the right
hemisphere of the brain.

256
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,600
And the Emissary is the left
describing the we're to brained

257
00:19:11,500 --> 00:19:15,300
beings, it will take some effort
and finessing of the differences

258
00:19:15,300 --> 00:19:18,900
to avoid simplistic conclusions.
First, it is important to know

259
00:19:18,900 --> 00:19:22,700
that both brains Are involved in
everything, both are involved

260
00:19:22,700 --> 00:19:27,100
together in speech, analysis,
understanding and emotions and

261
00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:29,700
you right.
Eye view mcgilchrist studies on

262
00:19:29,700 --> 00:19:32,600
the to brain as the most
insightful of any I've ever

263
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,300
read.
And that is why you've pinned

264
00:19:35,300 --> 00:19:40,200
the Seth sa.
So you made a point in that in

265
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,700
the 60s when they first started,
Talking about the brain and the

266
00:19:44,700 --> 00:19:47,400
function of the brain science
sort of took.

267
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:54,600
A, they seem to stop like they
didn't continue to try to figure

268
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,400
out why the brain operates
because you most people think

269
00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,400
that the brain is the mind, and
the mind is the brain and

270
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,500
they're, they're not separable,
but that's not the case,

271
00:20:03,500 --> 00:20:07,800
according to the ranch a book.
So could you Sort of explain to

272
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:13,100
us how the brain functions and
in particular, what the Rancho

273
00:20:13,100 --> 00:20:15,300
book.
Says, actually turns out to be

274
00:20:15,300 --> 00:20:20,100
true, that we may not know this
in modern science today.

275
00:20:23,700 --> 00:20:31,200
The Gilchrist 20 years of actual
research and study on the

276
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,900
function of the two, hemispheres
of the brain.

277
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:43,500
And so the picked up now, we
need a connection as we look at

278
00:20:43,500 --> 00:20:47,800
the two hemispheres.
As described by current science

279
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:53,600
like by mcgilchrist.
I felt a need to connect that up

280
00:20:54,100 --> 00:20:59,000
your with what your answer book
says, about the function of the

281
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:05,300
two brains and that was the
purpose of the paper to show how

282
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,700
the thought adjuster is is
working with our brain

283
00:21:10,700 --> 00:21:15,000
structure.
Other planets have persons with

284
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:19,800
one Rain, then there's a two
brain type.

285
00:21:21,100 --> 00:21:26,500
Here on on Urantia and other
planets have three brains.

286
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:33,900
That's you could imagine that.
So the, the I found wonderful

287
00:21:33,900 --> 00:21:41,800
Connections in the air, the the
this to brain theories that we

288
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:48,300
have and how the thought
adjuster Adjust thinking with

289
00:21:48,300 --> 00:21:52,000
our type of structure, I thought
it all to be quite fascinating.

290
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,700
Yeah, me too because there has
not been a lot of expen my

291
00:21:55,700 --> 00:21:59,900
opinion.
The Urantia book is still light

292
00:21:59,900 --> 00:22:02,300
years ahead.
In terms of explaining the

293
00:22:02,300 --> 00:22:06,800
differences between all of the
elements that make up the the

294
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,800
highly evolved human intellect.
You know, for for example, you

295
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:17,500
right in your your essay Say the
key to grasping the why of two

296
00:22:17,500 --> 00:22:21,400
hemispheres is to recognize that
each has its own very different

297
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,500
view of the world.
And this is what I was thinking

298
00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:28,000
of his last couple of days.
The difference is the asymmetry

299
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,500
of the to has increased from the
lineage of the Apes, not

300
00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:34,100
diminished and evolution always
has a purpose.

301
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,300
But what your explanation is is
that the two hemispheres want

302
00:22:38,300 --> 00:22:41,900
one tends to look at the world
holistic View.

303
00:22:43,300 --> 00:22:45,700
You know, the full picture and
then the other part of the

304
00:22:45,700 --> 00:22:49,000
brain, the left part looks at
specific tasks that need to be

305
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,600
done.
Let's go in there and let's get

306
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,600
it done.
Whereas the master side, the

307
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,800
right brain tends to say, hold
on here, let's look at all the

308
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,000
possibilities and that's how we
process things throughout our

309
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,800
life.
Do we do this subconsciously?

310
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,300
But the work of the spirit which
is the the thought adjuster is

311
00:23:08,300 --> 00:23:11,400
to do two things.
If I understand one, is to take

312
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,800
a snapshot and Errol ties a
concept for later.

313
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:19,800
Use, as you describe.
And then also to sort of allow

314
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:25,600
you to grasp something a truth,
a revelation of some sort that

315
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:30,400
took a lot of time for your
brain to process and you know

316
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:35,200
jump in any time but I found
your essay like the first time

317
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,100
in years that I read somebody
who's actually taken the Urantia

318
00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:43,400
book to task and what you're
saying is that the mcgilchrist

319
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,100
work sort of does that it takes
the Rancho books concept to tap.

320
00:23:47,300 --> 00:23:54,000
Ask is that a fair assessment?
Yes, the Gilchrist made some

321
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,100
some great discoveries and
that's why the kind of Pop

322
00:23:58,100 --> 00:24:04,800
science of the 1960s and 1970s
about, you know, right.

323
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,900
Brain people and left brain,
people, and tendencies tended up

324
00:24:08,900 --> 00:24:13,500
to be basically in the building
the grill, Crestview absurd,

325
00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:16,700
that's why I call it pop
science.

326
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,200
Now, we're up to some better
science and then we're Combining

327
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:26,500
that with the revelation of
Urantia book itself, which as

328
00:24:26,500 --> 00:24:32,400
you said is light years ahead
because it describes to us, you

329
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,500
know, as we know one of the
central themes of the Urantia

330
00:24:35,500 --> 00:24:42,800
book, is this inestimable gift
from the father of the father?

331
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:48,000
Fragment the mystery monitor
route, adjuster or controller as

332
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,900
we call it as we get older?
You know, or the light, that

333
00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:54,300
lighteth?
Every man, it is.

334
00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:58,200
I think how the scripture you
would you would know more than I

335
00:24:58,208 --> 00:25:01,900
would you point, you know, my
brother who is a reader once

336
00:25:01,900 --> 00:25:03,700
common.
He says, I do, I've always had

337
00:25:03,700 --> 00:25:06,600
trouble with the word thought
adjuster it sounds like mind

338
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,700
control, but I think you sort of
explain it in a different way.

339
00:25:10,700 --> 00:25:14,200
It's not it's not controlling it
suggesting, it's taking

340
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,800
something and making in spirit
sizing it giving a you know,

341
00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:20,600
what was that one thing you say
it?

342
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:25,600
It's a the right brain initiates
higher thought, then your human

343
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,500
intellect.
Left-brain parses out the

344
00:25:28,508 --> 00:25:31,300
details and refers it back again
to the right brain.

345
00:25:31,300 --> 00:25:34,700
And it's a back and forth like a
tennis ball until a concept of

346
00:25:34,700 --> 00:25:38,200
feeling, or an idea, settles and
gets the Divine stamp of

347
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,800
approval.
That is thought adjustment

348
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,600
through a human Divine joint
effort.

349
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,100
It's almost like a hand coming
from above reaching down and

350
00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:49,900
you're grasping for it.
You finally grab it and it pulls

351
00:25:49,900 --> 00:25:52,600
you up.
It's pretty amazing.

352
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,500
Well, that's that's that is
amazing and that's what's

353
00:25:56,500 --> 00:26:00,100
happening with every person on
Earth.

354
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:07,000
The thought adjusters are given
worldwide to everyone at a

355
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:15,400
diverse a on right now as we
speak in our minds and with

356
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:22,200
everyone on Earth, it is a
continual effort by By this

357
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:28,600
divine presence within our mind,
which has birthed our soul to

358
00:26:29,700 --> 00:26:34,300
lead us upward into higher, and
better Concepts and

359
00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:39,800
understandings.
And during the time of sleep,

360
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:45,900
according to the Urantia book,
the adjuster endeavours to

361
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:52,000
register.
Concepts in the superconscious.

362
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:59,800
That it becomes.
Part of our enlarged,

363
00:26:59,900 --> 00:27:05,400
understanding of the world of
God of the universe of Prayer.

364
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:14,500
So we need to know are fostered
through this process of thought

365
00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:18,500
adjustment, and it just doesn't
happen out in The Ether

366
00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:21,400
someplace.
This is actually being played

367
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:28,700
out with the biological brain
structure that we have been

368
00:27:28,700 --> 00:27:32,200
endowed with, and that is the
process of evolution.

369
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:43,400
So, This this presence of spirit
presence from the Father, the

370
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:50,300
thought adjuster at activity is
touching on the electrochemical

371
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,100
very lightly touching that you
connecting with the matcha.

372
00:27:57,100 --> 00:28:01,200
Mine structure above and and
making the connection.

373
00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:06,200
From, but it happens in the
material brain and then it

374
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:11,700
connects with the sole mind.
Well, I couldn't have said it

375
00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:14,400
better myself and I want to
encourage people to read more of

376
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,900
your works.
And I want to just reiterate,

377
00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:21,600
how can we find out more about
this particular paper?

378
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,900
How would you go about
recommending people read it, get

379
00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:28,000
it, get a copy of it.
What would you like us to do?

380
00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:32,500
Yeah, yeah.
I'll send out a copy to anyone

381
00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:39,700
who asks us to do is send me a
message on email at Musical and

382
00:28:39,700 --> 00:28:49,000
USIC Al at Cox dotnet, that c0x
dotnet musical at Cox dotnet.

383
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:50,400
Thank you.
Jim.

384
00:28:50,700 --> 00:28:54,700
And God bless everyone out.
There may your thoughts.

385
00:28:54,700 --> 00:28:59,200
The Divine room, a Justin today
and may you find the love and

386
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,500
joy, and a place to worship.
Thanks again to my guests.

387
00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:06,900
This time up on your Rancher,
radio the podcast.

388
00:29:07,300 --> 00:29:11,100
Hey, I want to give you Great
reason to check back on our next

389
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:12,700
episode.
We're doing something very

390
00:29:12,700 --> 00:29:17,600
exciting.
We ran across an essay actually.

391
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:23,900
It's an incredible story of the
first human family, and you are

392
00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:27,200
going to love the narrator next
time up on your Ranch radio.

393
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,300
They first human family.
As told in story authored by

394
00:29:32,300 --> 00:29:35,200
Rick Warren, and that'll be our
subject on the next podcast

395
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,100
here.
Until next time, thanks again

396
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:37,700
for joining me.