Oct. 1, 2023
Revelation in Africa - The April Helen Interview
Revelation In Uganda - The April Helen InterviewSecond generation Urantia Book reader April Helen shares her story of living in Uganda and studying the Urantia Book with a small group of fellow students and what it is like to share the revelation in Southeastern Africa.April Helen also shares her experiences working along side others at an orphanage and what its like living the revelation first-hand in a far away land.
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Welcome to another edition of
the Rancho Radio podcast.
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I'm Jim Watkins, your host.
What would it be like to go to a
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very different country where the
average monthly income is under
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$3?
Where 5 bordering countries
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surround you, two of which have
refugees pouring in because of
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the lack of food.
Civil war is about, religious
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persecution surrounds.
And yet, despite all of these
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challenges, the revelation
continues to grow in Uganda from
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the seeds planted from people
like the one I'm about to
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introduce you to right here on
The Ranch Radio Podcast.
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This time up on the Ranch Radio
Podcast, we meet a second
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generation Uranch book reader by
the name of April Helen.
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What's it like to share the
revelation with folks who have a
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vastly different cultural view?
Let's find out April Helen, my
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guest, this time up on the
Urancho Radio podcast.
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As black as night, the pale
yellow shone in his.
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Eyes.
His path was marked by the stars
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of the southern hemisphere, and
he walked his days under
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Africa's skies.
This is the story of how we
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begin to remember.
This is the powerful pulsing of
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love in the vain, after the
dream of falling and calling
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your name out.
These are the roots of rhythm,
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and the roots of rhythm remain.
I talked to a couple people who
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talk about how well the Urantia
book is doing in Africa and that
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is of great interest to me
because Africa obviously
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everybody knows it's a beautiful
country.
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But there's so many problems
that the the, the continent
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itself is facing because you've
got all these semi Marxist
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governments, you've got all the
slaughter religious stuff going
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on and it's just like of all the
places the Orancho book could
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possibly not do well in, I would
think it would be Africa or most
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of the countries in Africa.
And then you write me this thing
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and I'm reading about it and and
it sounds like the people in of
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Uganda, I mean they're just
reacting to this book in a very
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nice way.
And I and I I thought I'd pick
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your brain on it.
So first of all, what is going
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on in Uganda with the Rancho
Book?
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Tell my listeners about that
what what's going on over there?
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Yeah.
Well, I having been over there
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in August of 2022, I.
Then got really interested in
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what happened before that and it
originally.
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Now if this was the 1st, I'm not
too sure about.
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What I my research led me to was
that Norman Ingram was really
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the first major player in a
worldwide library placement
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program that he did in the late
began in the late 90s and that's
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also when.
The the power couple of Pat
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Obanton and Antoinette Roots
Data also began going over there
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and building relationships in
Africa and they well we'll go
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into that a little bit later of
their current Ubuntu project
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with Guard Jamison.
However, you know, as you say
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this you're it's that
interesting take on.
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What you say most of the world
understands about those
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countries.
And yes, I admit to having just
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a very small lens of what I saw.
Yet I did hear from personal
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conversations while I was over
there with the delegates to the
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first Ugandan urine shipment
conference.
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They, several of them, had to be
quiet about their reading of the
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papers and and so it's
definitely an organic grassroots
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growth of Christian leaders,
Muslim leaders, unaffiliated
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readers having.
Their passion around the message
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of the book, yet being quiet
about it mostly.
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But then, of course, when you
get together with a group of
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other your ancient book readers,
you can be a little bit more
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explicit.
And that's exactly why I like to
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like you, Mr. Gem.
Are on these platforms like
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podcasts or even going to book
fairs and being representative.
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Like, I just came back from the
Parliament of the World's
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Religions, where you're in the
midst of near 10,000 people
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having an open mind to hear what
you have to say about your
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philosophy.
And yeah, it's pretty exciting
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to go into these places,
especially like Uganda, where
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the message is.
So new and and hear about other
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countries in that on that
continent like Nigeria and the
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Congo I believe are much more
active in its readership.
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So definitely Uganda is much
younger on the playing field.
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Yet it's it's growing and I
would probably say the
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participation at the conference
out of maybe 80 people, you
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know, probably half of them were
super young readers, meaning new
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readers and actually the
demographics, which is so much
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different than it is here in the
United States and actually
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younger aged readers.
Versus what we have here is
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mostly an an older demographic.
I'm at 45, one of the younger
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readers here and that's curious
to me as well.
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Yet over there, even a lot of
them hadn't even heard about it
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until they were traveling there.
It was like some of their
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buddies just said, hey, we're
we're going to this being and
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why don't you come along with
us?
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And while we were there several,
there was one talk in particular
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near the beginning of the
conference.
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They the conversation moved to
it being a curiosity that the
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your ancient message was trying
to take over or dismiss the
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biblical.
Teachings and there was a little
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animosity you could feel in the
room, yet it was by some of the
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other more knowledgeable
readers.
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Calm down that situation by
saying there's truth in every
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book and the Aransha book is
just an.
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An expanded version of what we
know and to remain open to the
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truth, to anywhere that you can
receive it.
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And that's definitely something
that I appreciate about the
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unique qualities of everything
that is offered here on the
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planet and and any book or
person or.
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Situation challenge very much.
Often challenge is where we find
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our wisdom, so that's exciting
to see.
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Well, I want to just interject
here a little bit of context of
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what you're saying, because
there's not stuff that I just
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happen to know the but some
interesting facts about the
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country.
It's primarily Roman Catholic,
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which I didn't know.
Then there's the Church of
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Uganda, which is about 30%,
which is slightly down.
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And then Evangelical Pentecostal
represents a very small
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percentage, under about 10%. 13
percent is represented by the by
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Muslims.
So I thought that would be much
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higher.
And it borders, like you say,
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the DRC, Democratic Republic of
Congo.
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And then the other countries
that surround it include Rwanda,
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Tanzania, South Sudan.
And I just mentioned DRC.
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So it's, it's landlocked.
But it's got this incredible
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reputation for being a place to
go to see gorillas and elephants
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everywhere and waterfalls and
beautiful pristine lakes.
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And I imagine is it, is it
mountainous?
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Do you see any mountains there?
It's not flat, is it?
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There's also like mountains.
And can you see Mount, what's
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that big mountain in?
Is it Kenya?
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I'm not sure.
But how long were you there?
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And and yeah, how long were you
there?
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When did you go?
Yeah.
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Well, on that, I think it is
Kenya.
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And thank you for all of those
facts that actually I didn't
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even know.
Yeah, right.
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So thank you for giving that
context.
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Well, it's.
Just and it was last August of
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2022.
I was there for a month.
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And the the conference was
actually scheduled for 2020 and
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so the planning began in 2019
through the Spiritual Family
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Network and then the Eurasia
Fellowship got on board in 2021
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for additional.
Planning, administration and
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financial support.
And as the world knows, the year
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2020, why we took a step back,
it was obviously the quarantine.
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And so actually that was a
really good thing because it
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provided a lot more time for
these organizations and the
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people planning it to come into
greater.
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Collaborative teamwork, which,
as you know, teamwork is one of,
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if not the most important lesson
to be learned during our mortal
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career here on this planet and
even in the universe as far as I
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understand it.
Again, and honestly even being
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there, we could have used a lot
more time in in that
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collaborative effort to get a
little bit more clear.
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In fact, I wrote two blog posts.
One was all about the experience
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of the conference and then a
whole another one was inspired
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as how to move forward.
In this spirit led teamwork in
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international.
Organization, service work,
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specifically commenting on the
ranch of a community worldwide.
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And so you know all of that just
comes in stages each each time
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we do something of course that
ideally will progress the next
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time we do it and it was a great
asset to.
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Not only be in the program
planning, which I am an adjunct
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on the International Fellowship
Committee of the Arrangement
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Fellowship, and I also have
direct ties to the other
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organization involved, Spiritual
Family Network that you know, we
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just keep going in more
conversation and more vetting of
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the people who are on.
On site, on location in whatever
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particular country, in this case
Uganda, that we can start
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establishing deeper connections
so we can have trust in where
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the money is going and the
organizational process in that
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country that we can't see
because we're across the pond.
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So I think that is one of the
greatest things that I took
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away.
As my journey I think is going
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to be involved in international
affairs, which actually is still
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is, as my secondary reason for
going over to Uganda was this
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small orphanage north of where
the conference was about 3
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hours.
In a little district called
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Kamuli and I have been for about
two years supporting the small
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like 18 kid orphanage and
actually just last week after
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two years or actually four years
of organizing it, we.
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Are are now having all the kids
and homeschooling, so now
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education is being provided.
So that is really cool.
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I'll just give a little plug to
the Vine of Hope industries and.
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And so just seeing those two
different reasons of why I went
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over there allowed me to see a
greater vision of the culture,
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you know, stepping outside of
the Iranshevic movement into
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this other realm of rural.
You know, town life, village
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life.
And actually that gentleman, the
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director is the beery is a new
reader who has been inspired
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since that Uganda conference to
bring the Iran Shavik to his
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small district and the
orphanage.
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So we got him The Tales of
Joshua, the book that I was
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raised with as a Second
Generation reader.
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And that's where the kids are
starting with their your ancient
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book inspired education, of
course, alongside English and
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math, science, history.
So that is a pretty exciting
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project.
If anybody out there wants to
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have anything to do with you can
contact me.
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So, So you just got up one day
and decided you're going to go
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to Uganda and see and see if you
can run into some of your ranch
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book readers.
Is that what you're telling me?
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Actually, I heard back in
through the International
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Fellowship Committee and the
desire for Spiritual Family
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Network to have this conference
over there in 2019.
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As soon as I heard it, I got it
was like my thought adjuster
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celebrating inside of my soul
that you're gonna go.
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I was like, oh, OK, well, I
don't know how that's gonna
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happen, but I'm open to it.
Yeah.
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And then along the path another.
That opportunity being a
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representative of the IFC, but
also Crestwood Foundation who is
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a big supporter of mine, of
hope.
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They were my sponsors to go on
that trip, so everything just
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synchronistically fell.
Of course the angels and
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midwears obviously had something
to do with that that I got to
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experience that whole month long
journey.
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What is the difference in the
way that maybe some of your
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experiences with what do they,
what do they call themselves
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Ugandanis?
What's their word for describing
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their their country?
Are they Ugandhis?
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What is that term over there?
Well, I do.
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You know, I just assumed it was
Ugandans.
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Ugandans, okay.
Do they look at what's the
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appeal, What is there a common
appeal to them in the book
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that's different from other
countries like America or any
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other country?
Do they look at it?
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Somebody told me once that
because of Melchizedek is much
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more prominent, particularly in
Islam, but certainly in, in
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African culture, because of the,
you know, Roman Catholics and
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the Angelicans.
But do they haven't a certain
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affinity?
What are they different in the
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way they approach the Rancho
book than say we are, You know
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what I mean?
You know what I'm.
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That that is a good question.
And the first thing that comes
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to my mind was honestly we
didn't really get that deep into
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those kind of questions yet.
If I were to intuitively from
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the experience that I had about
what conversations came up at
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the conference during the
presentations, I would say
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Jesus, you know the life.
And in fact, that's where most
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of the people had most of their.
Experience reading where the
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life and teachings of Jesus the
4th part of the book and and and
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all about the like art of living
skills like prayer, life and
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living as the expression of
spiritual values and everything
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your words, thoughts and needs.
And he now, but also as humans,
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I've met many of them who didn't
do that.
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Yeah, you know, we're all doing
the best that we can.
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Let me ask you this.
So I've had conversations with
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people and this may be a
difficult, sensitive subject,
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but I don't care.
There are some things that your
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Rancho book says or you know, in
written in 1935.
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It would not, as we would say,
be politically correct.
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You know what I'm saying about
the way that perhaps they just,
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you know, the fact that the, you
know, the way the Urancho book
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describes the culture or the the
backwardness of African natives
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because of, I think, you know,
environmental issues more than
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anything.
But there, I've heard people
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tell me that the Urancho book
comes across as being racist,
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which, you know, I can tell them
that they're stupid and explain
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to them why they're wrong, but
that never comes.
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That's never discussed.
You never had that issue with
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anybody in Uganda about some of
the things that the Rancho Book
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says about the different races
and the attributes of the races.
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And you know, I'm sure you you
know what I'm referring to.
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I do, and in fact, you're
bringing up a very popular
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subject, especially since.
The International Conference of
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the Orange Book Fellowship just
happened and the one of the
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workshops that was the most
attended was the panel on the
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race issue.
So.
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So I'd like to know more about
what that panel I was with
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serving the children's program
the whole time.
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However, I heard a lot about it.
But yes, you're right, I did not
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have that at all.
Come up and of course I was the
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only white girl right in the
bunch of near 100, you know, 85
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people.
And I was welcomed with open
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arms and love and you know, as
they whether that's a cultural
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thing of seeing.
And I did, I got approached with
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a lot of hands out wanting
something because they thought I
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had money.
And that was not just with your
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intubic readers, but that was
everywhere I walked in that
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country.
Is it pretty?
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So how is it economically?
Pretty bad.
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I mean, in your visit, no, you
know, I suppose it's just like
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this country or anywhere in the
world that I've traveled.
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I see all sides anywhere I go.
So it just depends on where you
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are is where you're going to
see.
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Now the stories that I've heard
there is great contrast of the
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classes.
So, yes, and then I did in the
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Kamuli district visit the rural
town.
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But then I was in the conference
in Jinja, which was one of the
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major cities.
So I saw, I saw it all.
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And you know, I've
internationally traveled most of
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my life, so that inequality
doesn't really haunt me,
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especially when we look at the
what the Uranshibik says about
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the inevitabilities of life.
And for us to move forward and
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ascend towards the era of lion
life, there has to be these
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inequalities so that we have the
opportunity to problem solve.
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And yeah move towards that more
in line era, but back to this
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this race comment that when I
was there, that's something that
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your earlier question about the
kind of the major takeaways that
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they see in the arrangement.
I would probably say that the
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equality of the races is one of
those and and the the women's
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equality, however, even though
they know that intellectually
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they're culturally if I would
say, far behind our tradition.
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By here in the US.
You know, the Iranjavic says we
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love our traditions, We hang on
to them.
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You know, we're very tradition
oriented.
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Yeah, you're right.
And and it's, you know and it
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reminds me of this comment where
it says in the government of
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another planet where it talks
about this one particular
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continent and.
There's they're just about that
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stage where they're sending out
ministers to other of the
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surrounding countries and
they're saying that the
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revelators, they're saying don't
do that.
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That's not what you do.
What you do is you go and you
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pull people from that culture,
train them in the ways of the
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garden, you know, as a metaphor,
and then send them back so that
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they can take what they've
learned, the higher learning,
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the higher education, the
whatever.
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And then they can.
Let it seed organically in their
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own country, so it grows up
within their own cultural
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characteristics.
So comment on that I mean is is
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the, I really appreciate you
saying that.
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That's exactly one of the points
that I put in the second blog
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post of how do we move forward
and empowering and supporting
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our global community.
And I quoted the government on
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the neighboring planet and
actually there has been a
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blueprint created from the
Spiritual Family Network a few
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years ago where they did that.
They brought over a popular
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Bishop Moses Carawa.
I believe his name is to Canada
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for a three-week workshop on the
life and teachings of Jesus.
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And he has been so successful in
bringing people to the Aransha
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book now that he's returned in
his country and visited other
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countries in Africa.
And yes, I think that that
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establishing that in fact that's
the the vision that I have for
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the Vine of Hope ministry is
eventually bringing the the kids
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over at at certain ages teenage
years potentially and or maybe
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even college and under the guise
that they commit to returning to
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their culture and cities and
homes to be the the teachers in
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that way.
Yeah.
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Well, that's that's the better
point.
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So tell me a little bit about
the the the world, the
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International Religious
Conference that you went to.
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What are they all talking about
today?
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Yeah, the Parliament of the
World's religious.
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What's on their mind?
Yeah, yeah.
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Well, maybe the listeners don't
know yet.
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The parliament of the world of
religion has been going on since
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the World's Fair in 1893 and
that's really where a a big
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springboard.
Not to say that interfaith
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conversation hasn't been prior
to 1893 yet.
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That's when it came on to the
world map and organizations like
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Name, the North American
Interfaith Network and stuff
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like that has been around to
have the conversations about
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things like spirituality and
politics.
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And I think it was 1993 was the
2nd like 100 years later the 2nd
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Parliament of the World's
Religions.
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And ever since then, they have
them every four to seven years,
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and that's been one of my
favorite.
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I think I have.
I've been to them five Times Now
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because it's such a place of
open mindedness and open
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heartedness.
So the conversation this year
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was very much involving their
theme, which was defending
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women's rights.
Well, not just women, but
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defending rights, a call to
consciousness, and defending and
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empowering humanity.
And yes, a lot of that still
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revolves around the the women's
equality movement.
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So there were so many workshops
and plenary speakers and a
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wonderful exhibit hall.
All all different.
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Not just workshops on this
theme.
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Yeah, everything from
cultivating inner awareness to
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having cultural artist displays
like music and dance and what,
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you know, The original book
movement had, I think 4
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representations in the Expo, and
many of the readers in our
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community put on workshops and
yeah, yeah, so it's just one of
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those.
I highly encourage people to go
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to those future events.
Do you or any interfaith work?
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You know, I think interfaith
work is one of the grounds that
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the area of light and life can
truly be fostered when we have
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people of spiritual, higher
spiritual consciousness getting
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together and talking
respectfully and finding unity
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through diversity is one of the
most powerful places that we as
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a a family of humans can move
forward on this planet.
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Do you think I I have to, We'll
have to have a separate talk
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about that because that's a
whole other stuff, you know,
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because some of the words that
are used, like some of the words
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that you use, they're what's
the, you know, like the word
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empowerment.
I hear that word bantered about
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empower the children, empower
this, empower that.
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But sometimes they think, you
know, people reserve the right
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to too much what they call.
Or what I call unearned power.
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It's like, you know, children,
there's a certain amount of
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humility that you have to have
humbleness.
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And you don't walk around
thinking about how empowered you
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are.
You think about how you want to
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serve other people.
So that should be the impetus
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for what you're doing in your
daily life.
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How do I make the world a better
place?
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Not how do I make the world a
better place for me?
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And I think that's what gets
lost sometimes.
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I'm not saying the people
shouldn't feel good about who
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they are and what they're doing.
But you know it empowering must
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come with a certain amount of
you earned it and it's not just
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something that you're entitled
to when it comes to that.
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And I think our kids are growing
up with a sense of too much self
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importance and then they grow up
to be little radical activists,
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you know and and but again
that's a subject for another
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day.
So did you get the sense that
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more people are aware of the
Rancho Book now than, say, 10
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years ago?
And they maybe not know much
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about it.
Or what's your assessment of how
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people either recognize or don't
recognize the Irancha book?
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Well, I would, I would probably
say yes to what you said, more
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interest, curiosity and
acknowledgement.
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Yet it will take time for the
study, especially because it's,
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you know in English and English
as a second language.
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Even though English is the
official language, most of them
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come about it as a second
language.
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So there's a lot of translation
opportunity for years to come in
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all areas of the world that
definitely Africa and that has
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any.
There is one person that I know,
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a young man, very interested and
devoted to that project in the
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Lugan Ben they call it is their
secondary official language
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apart from English that that
actually is lower on the totem
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pole pole, say relative to.
I think Swahili might be the
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first translation that happens
over there.
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Yeah that's something that in my
other blog post of how to help
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them be more self sustainable is
give them tools for studying and
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not just giving them money.
Right.
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I'm I'm all about figuring out
how we can well, I use the word
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empower in that way to take it
on themselves as the responsible
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party to help their neighbors
study it and be more free.
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So study guides it translated
into other languages and and of
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course the fellowship has a lot
of opportunity there.
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So again this is a shout out to
any listeners that want to be on
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board.
There's so much service
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opportunity if you want to get
involved.
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I imagine teachers, you know, I
have this theory and it's
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actually quite funny, I think,
but I've noticed that people who
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are very religious.
Very rarely ever read their
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books.
They they seem to know a lot
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about them, but they don't
actually take the time to read
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them like the Book of Mormon.
Have you ever met anybody who's
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actually but yeah, there are
more?
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Or the Bible.
Or the Bible.
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Yeah, they might read the
Gospels of Revelation once or
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twice and that's it.
And then they think they're
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experts.
But people are not I.
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As a Urancho book reader, if I
had not ever heard of it, and
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today I found it, I would lie.
I don't have time to read that.
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I can't read all that.
So but yeah, how do we get
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people to read the book?
That's the that's the question.
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Well, so yeah, what was coming
to my mind was exactly what
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people like you and I are doing.
And it's all about secondary
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works.
You know, with this era that
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we're living in, where people's
attention span is becoming
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shorter and the people who
actually like to read are
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becoming less, how can we
inspire them?
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To read?
Is by doing podcasts.
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And I'm actually getting ready
to publish my first children's
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book or things like blog post or
social media shorts or people
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like Gary Tong who do these
beautiful videos and get them
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out to YouTube.
So it's it's really all about
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the secondary works I think.
And I think that the more people
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who do secondary works projects,
not just books, but all
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different kinds, that even if
just one person catches that,
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that is doing a good thing.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
So I.
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Here's a shout out to all of you
listeners out there.
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They if you're inspired to do
something creative, even if
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someone else is doing it,
they're not gonna be doing it.
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Like you're gonna do it.
Yeah.
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So just do it.
All right.
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It's April, Helen.
Calm and and I have so many
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different resources and please
there's a contact page if
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anybody out there wants to know
about any of the service
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projects I can connect to.
You just get involved.
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You know the life of loving
service and living a life on
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purpose for the the brotherhood
and the sisterhood of humankind,
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that is.
That is where the love is at.
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I've been thinking about the
Great Migration.
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Noon and night they leave the
flock and I imagine that
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destination.
Meadow grass, jagged rock.
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The Lord is my engineer, the
Lord is the earth.
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How right on the Lord is the
face in the atmosphere?
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The path is slipping a slide.
You've been listening to my
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guest April Helen talking about.
A truly inspiring story.
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Her story of living the
Revelation in Africa.
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Crystal Comma Starlit Knife,
Silver Moon to smooth the edge
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of daylight.
Now it turned evening rose.
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Tribal voices, Old and young
celebrations.
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A history of family song.
The endless river flows.
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As always, it's so wonderful
that you're able to stop by.
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Always love hearing from you.
Got a question or a comment?
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Your Rancho book?
Radio@gmail.com and I look
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forward to catching up with you
on the next podcast right here
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on your Rancho radio.
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Welcome to another edition of
the Rancho Radio podcast.
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I'm Jim Watkins, your host.
What would it be like to go to a
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very different country where the
average monthly income is under
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$3?
Where 5 bordering countries
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surround you, two of which have
refugees pouring in because of
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the lack of food.
Civil war is about, religious
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persecution surrounds.
And yet, despite all of these
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challenges, the revelation
continues to grow in Uganda from
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the seeds planted from people
like the one I'm about to
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introduce you to right here on
The Ranch Radio Podcast.
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This time up on the Ranch Radio
Podcast, we meet a second
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generation Uranch book reader by
the name of April Helen.
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What's it like to share the
revelation with folks who have a
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vastly different cultural view?
Let's find out April Helen, my
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guest, this time up on the
Urancho Radio podcast.
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As black as night, the pale
yellow shone in his.
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Eyes.
His path was marked by the stars
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of the southern hemisphere, and
he walked his days under
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Africa's skies.
This is the story of how we
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begin to remember.
This is the powerful pulsing of
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love in the vain, after the
dream of falling and calling
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your name out.
These are the roots of rhythm,
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and the roots of rhythm remain.
I talked to a couple people who
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talk about how well the Urantia
book is doing in Africa and that
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is of great interest to me
because Africa obviously
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everybody knows it's a beautiful
country.
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But there's so many problems
that the the, the continent
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itself is facing because you've
got all these semi Marxist
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governments, you've got all the
slaughter religious stuff going
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on and it's just like of all the
places the Orancho book could
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possibly not do well in, I would
think it would be Africa or most
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of the countries in Africa.
And then you write me this thing
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and I'm reading about it and and
it sounds like the people in of
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Uganda, I mean they're just
reacting to this book in a very
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nice way.
And I and I I thought I'd pick
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your brain on it.
So first of all, what is going
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on in Uganda with the Rancho
Book?
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Tell my listeners about that
what what's going on over there?
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Yeah.
Well, I having been over there
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in August of 2022, I.
Then got really interested in
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what happened before that and it
originally.
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Now if this was the 1st, I'm not
too sure about.
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What I my research led me to was
that Norman Ingram was really
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the first major player in a
worldwide library placement
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program that he did in the late
began in the late 90s and that's
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also when.
The the power couple of Pat
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Obanton and Antoinette Roots
Data also began going over there
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and building relationships in
Africa and they well we'll go
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into that a little bit later of
their current Ubuntu project
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with Guard Jamison.
However, you know, as you say
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this you're it's that
interesting take on.
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What you say most of the world
understands about those
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countries.
And yes, I admit to having just
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a very small lens of what I saw.
Yet I did hear from personal
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conversations while I was over
there with the delegates to the
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first Ugandan urine shipment
conference.
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They, several of them, had to be
quiet about their reading of the
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papers and and so it's
definitely an organic grassroots
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growth of Christian leaders,
Muslim leaders, unaffiliated
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readers having.
Their passion around the message
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of the book, yet being quiet
about it mostly.
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But then, of course, when you
get together with a group of
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other your ancient book readers,
you can be a little bit more
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explicit.
And that's exactly why I like to
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like you, Mr. Gem.
Are on these platforms like
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podcasts or even going to book
fairs and being representative.
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Like, I just came back from the
Parliament of the World's
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Religions, where you're in the
midst of near 10,000 people
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having an open mind to hear what
you have to say about your
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philosophy.
And yeah, it's pretty exciting
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to go into these places,
especially like Uganda, where
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the message is.
So new and and hear about other
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countries in that on that
continent like Nigeria and the
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Congo I believe are much more
active in its readership.
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So definitely Uganda is much
younger on the playing field.
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Yet it's it's growing and I
would probably say the
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participation at the conference
out of maybe 80 people, you
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know, probably half of them were
super young readers, meaning new
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readers and actually the
demographics, which is so much
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different than it is here in the
United States and actually
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younger aged readers.
Versus what we have here is
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mostly an an older demographic.
I'm at 45, one of the younger
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readers here and that's curious
to me as well.
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Yet over there, even a lot of
them hadn't even heard about it
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until they were traveling there.
It was like some of their
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buddies just said, hey, we're
we're going to this being and
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why don't you come along with
us?
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And while we were there several,
there was one talk in particular
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near the beginning of the
conference.
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They the conversation moved to
it being a curiosity that the
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your ancient message was trying
to take over or dismiss the
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biblical.
Teachings and there was a little
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animosity you could feel in the
room, yet it was by some of the
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other more knowledgeable
readers.
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Calm down that situation by
saying there's truth in every
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book and the Aransha book is
just an.
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An expanded version of what we
know and to remain open to the
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truth, to anywhere that you can
receive it.
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And that's definitely something
that I appreciate about the
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unique qualities of everything
that is offered here on the
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planet and and any book or
person or.
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Situation challenge very much.
Often challenge is where we find
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our wisdom, so that's exciting
to see.
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Well, I want to just interject
here a little bit of context of
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what you're saying, because
there's not stuff that I just
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happen to know the but some
interesting facts about the
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country.
It's primarily Roman Catholic,
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which I didn't know.
Then there's the Church of
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Uganda, which is about 30%,
which is slightly down.
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And then Evangelical Pentecostal
represents a very small
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percentage, under about 10%. 13
percent is represented by the by
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Muslims.
So I thought that would be much
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higher.
And it borders, like you say,
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the DRC, Democratic Republic of
Congo.
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And then the other countries
that surround it include Rwanda,
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Tanzania, South Sudan.
And I just mentioned DRC.
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So it's, it's landlocked.
But it's got this incredible
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reputation for being a place to
go to see gorillas and elephants
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everywhere and waterfalls and
beautiful pristine lakes.
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And I imagine is it, is it
mountainous?
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Do you see any mountains there?
It's not flat, is it?
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There's also like mountains.
And can you see Mount, what's
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that big mountain in?
Is it Kenya?
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I'm not sure.
But how long were you there?
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And and yeah, how long were you
there?
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When did you go?
Yeah.
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Well, on that, I think it is
Kenya.
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And thank you for all of those
facts that actually I didn't
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even know.
Yeah, right.
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So thank you for giving that
context.
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Well, it's.
Just and it was last August of
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2022.
I was there for a month.
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And the the conference was
actually scheduled for 2020 and
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so the planning began in 2019
through the Spiritual Family
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Network and then the Eurasia
Fellowship got on board in 2021
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for additional.
Planning, administration and
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financial support.
And as the world knows, the year
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2020, why we took a step back,
it was obviously the quarantine.
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And so actually that was a
really good thing because it
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provided a lot more time for
these organizations and the
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people planning it to come into
greater.
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Collaborative teamwork, which,
as you know, teamwork is one of,
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if not the most important lesson
to be learned during our mortal
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career here on this planet and
even in the universe as far as I
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understand it.
Again, and honestly even being
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there, we could have used a lot
more time in in that
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collaborative effort to get a
little bit more clear.
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In fact, I wrote two blog posts.
One was all about the experience
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of the conference and then a
whole another one was inspired
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as how to move forward.
In this spirit led teamwork in
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international.
Organization, service work,
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specifically commenting on the
ranch of a community worldwide.
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And so you know all of that just
comes in stages each each time
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we do something of course that
ideally will progress the next
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time we do it and it was a great
asset to.
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Not only be in the program
planning, which I am an adjunct
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on the International Fellowship
Committee of the Arrangement
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Fellowship, and I also have
direct ties to the other
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organization involved, Spiritual
Family Network that you know, we
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just keep going in more
conversation and more vetting of
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the people who are on.
On site, on location in whatever
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particular country, in this case
Uganda, that we can start
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establishing deeper connections
so we can have trust in where
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the money is going and the
organizational process in that
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country that we can't see
because we're across the pond.
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So I think that is one of the
greatest things that I took
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away.
As my journey I think is going
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to be involved in international
affairs, which actually is still
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is, as my secondary reason for
going over to Uganda was this
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small orphanage north of where
the conference was about 3
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hours.
In a little district called
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Kamuli and I have been for about
two years supporting the small
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like 18 kid orphanage and
actually just last week after
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two years or actually four years
of organizing it, we.
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Are are now having all the kids
and homeschooling, so now
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education is being provided.
So that is really cool.
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I'll just give a little plug to
the Vine of Hope industries and.
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And so just seeing those two
different reasons of why I went
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over there allowed me to see a
greater vision of the culture,
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you know, stepping outside of
the Iranshevic movement into
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this other realm of rural.
You know, town life, village
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life.
And actually that gentleman, the
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director is the beery is a new
reader who has been inspired
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since that Uganda conference to
bring the Iran Shavik to his
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small district and the
orphanage.
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So we got him The Tales of
Joshua, the book that I was
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raised with as a Second
Generation reader.
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And that's where the kids are
starting with their your ancient
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book inspired education, of
course, alongside English and
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math, science, history.
So that is a pretty exciting
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project.
If anybody out there wants to
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have anything to do with you can
contact me.
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So, So you just got up one day
and decided you're going to go
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to Uganda and see and see if you
can run into some of your ranch
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book readers.
Is that what you're telling me?
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Actually, I heard back in
through the International
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Fellowship Committee and the
desire for Spiritual Family
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Network to have this conference
over there in 2019.
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As soon as I heard it, I got it
was like my thought adjuster
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celebrating inside of my soul
that you're gonna go.
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I was like, oh, OK, well, I
don't know how that's gonna
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happen, but I'm open to it.
Yeah.
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And then along the path another.
That opportunity being a
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representative of the IFC, but
also Crestwood Foundation who is
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a big supporter of mine, of
hope.
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They were my sponsors to go on
that trip, so everything just
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synchronistically fell.
Of course the angels and
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midwears obviously had something
to do with that that I got to
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experience that whole month long
journey.
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What is the difference in the
way that maybe some of your
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experiences with what do they,
what do they call themselves
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Ugandanis?
What's their word for describing
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their their country?
Are they Ugandhis?
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What is that term over there?
Well, I do.
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You know, I just assumed it was
Ugandans.
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Ugandans, okay.
Do they look at what's the
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appeal, What is there a common
appeal to them in the book
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that's different from other
countries like America or any
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other country?
Do they look at it?
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Somebody told me once that
because of Melchizedek is much
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more prominent, particularly in
Islam, but certainly in, in
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African culture, because of the,
you know, Roman Catholics and
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the Angelicans.
But do they haven't a certain
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affinity?
What are they different in the
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way they approach the Rancho
book than say we are, You know
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what I mean?
You know what I'm.
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That that is a good question.
And the first thing that comes
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to my mind was honestly we
didn't really get that deep into
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those kind of questions yet.
If I were to intuitively from
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the experience that I had about
what conversations came up at
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the conference during the
presentations, I would say
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Jesus, you know the life.
And in fact, that's where most
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of the people had most of their.
Experience reading where the
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life and teachings of Jesus the
4th part of the book and and and
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all about the like art of living
skills like prayer, life and
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living as the expression of
spiritual values and everything
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your words, thoughts and needs.
And he now, but also as humans,
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I've met many of them who didn't
do that.
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Yeah, you know, we're all doing
the best that we can.
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Let me ask you this.
So I've had conversations with
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people and this may be a
difficult, sensitive subject,
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but I don't care.
There are some things that your
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Rancho book says or you know, in
written in 1935.
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It would not, as we would say,
be politically correct.
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You know what I'm saying about
the way that perhaps they just,
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you know, the fact that the, you
know, the way the Urancho book
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describes the culture or the the
backwardness of African natives
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because of, I think, you know,
environmental issues more than
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anything.
But there, I've heard people
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tell me that the Urancho book
comes across as being racist,
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which, you know, I can tell them
that they're stupid and explain
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to them why they're wrong, but
that never comes.
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That's never discussed.
You never had that issue with
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anybody in Uganda about some of
the things that the Rancho Book
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says about the different races
and the attributes of the races.
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And you know, I'm sure you you
know what I'm referring to.
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I do, and in fact, you're
bringing up a very popular
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subject, especially since.
The International Conference of
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the Orange Book Fellowship just
happened and the one of the
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workshops that was the most
attended was the panel on the
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race issue.
So.
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So I'd like to know more about
what that panel I was with
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serving the children's program
the whole time.
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However, I heard a lot about it.
But yes, you're right, I did not
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have that at all.
Come up and of course I was the
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only white girl right in the
bunch of near 100, you know, 85
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people.
And I was welcomed with open
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arms and love and you know, as
they whether that's a cultural
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thing of seeing.
And I did, I got approached with
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a lot of hands out wanting
something because they thought I
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had money.
And that was not just with your
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intubic readers, but that was
everywhere I walked in that
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country.
Is it pretty?
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So how is it economically?
Pretty bad.
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I mean, in your visit, no, you
know, I suppose it's just like
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this country or anywhere in the
world that I've traveled.
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I see all sides anywhere I go.
So it just depends on where you
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are is where you're going to
see.
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Now the stories that I've heard
there is great contrast of the
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classes.
So, yes, and then I did in the
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Kamuli district visit the rural
town.
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But then I was in the conference
in Jinja, which was one of the
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major cities.
So I saw, I saw it all.
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And you know, I've
internationally traveled most of
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my life, so that inequality
doesn't really haunt me,
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especially when we look at the
what the Uranshibik says about
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the inevitabilities of life.
And for us to move forward and
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ascend towards the era of lion
life, there has to be these
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inequalities so that we have the
opportunity to problem solve.
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And yeah move towards that more
in line era, but back to this
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this race comment that when I
was there, that's something that
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your earlier question about the
kind of the major takeaways that
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they see in the arrangement.
I would probably say that the
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equality of the races is one of
those and and the the women's
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equality, however, even though
they know that intellectually
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they're culturally if I would
say, far behind our tradition.
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By here in the US.
You know, the Iranjavic says we
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love our traditions, We hang on
to them.
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You know, we're very tradition
oriented.
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Yeah, you're right.
And and it's, you know and it
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reminds me of this comment where
it says in the government of
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another planet where it talks
about this one particular
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continent and.
There's they're just about that
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stage where they're sending out
ministers to other of the
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surrounding countries and
they're saying that the
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revelators, they're saying don't
do that.
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That's not what you do.
What you do is you go and you
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pull people from that culture,
train them in the ways of the
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garden, you know, as a metaphor,
and then send them back so that
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they can take what they've
learned, the higher learning,
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the higher education, the
whatever.
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And then they can.
Let it seed organically in their
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own country, so it grows up
within their own cultural
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characteristics.
So comment on that I mean is is
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the, I really appreciate you
saying that.
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That's exactly one of the points
that I put in the second blog
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post of how do we move forward
and empowering and supporting
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our global community.
And I quoted the government on
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the neighboring planet and
actually there has been a
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blueprint created from the
Spiritual Family Network a few
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years ago where they did that.
They brought over a popular
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Bishop Moses Carawa.
I believe his name is to Canada
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for a three-week workshop on the
life and teachings of Jesus.
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And he has been so successful in
bringing people to the Aransha
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book now that he's returned in
his country and visited other
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countries in Africa.
And yes, I think that that
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establishing that in fact that's
the the vision that I have for
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the Vine of Hope ministry is
eventually bringing the the kids
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over at at certain ages teenage
years potentially and or maybe
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even college and under the guise
that they commit to returning to
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their culture and cities and
homes to be the the teachers in
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that way.
Yeah.
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Well, that's that's the better
point.
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So tell me a little bit about
the the the world, the
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International Religious
Conference that you went to.
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What are they all talking about
today?
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Yeah, the Parliament of the
World's religious.
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What's on their mind?
Yeah, yeah.
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Well, maybe the listeners don't
know yet.
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The parliament of the world of
religion has been going on since
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the World's Fair in 1893 and
that's really where a a big
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springboard.
Not to say that interfaith
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conversation hasn't been prior
to 1893 yet.
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That's when it came on to the
world map and organizations like
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Name, the North American
Interfaith Network and stuff
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like that has been around to
have the conversations about
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things like spirituality and
politics.
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And I think it was 1993 was the
2nd like 100 years later the 2nd
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Parliament of the World's
Religions.
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And ever since then, they have
them every four to seven years,
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and that's been one of my
favorite.
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I think I have.
I've been to them five Times Now
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because it's such a place of
open mindedness and open
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heartedness.
So the conversation this year
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was very much involving their
theme, which was defending
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women's rights.
Well, not just women, but
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defending rights, a call to
consciousness, and defending and
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empowering humanity.
And yes, a lot of that still
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revolves around the the women's
equality movement.
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So there were so many workshops
and plenary speakers and a
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wonderful exhibit hall.
All all different.
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Not just workshops on this
theme.
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Yeah, everything from
cultivating inner awareness to
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having cultural artist displays
like music and dance and what,
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you know, The original book
movement had, I think 4
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representations in the Expo, and
many of the readers in our
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community put on workshops and
yeah, yeah, so it's just one of
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those.
I highly encourage people to go
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to those future events.
Do you or any interfaith work?
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You know, I think interfaith
work is one of the grounds that
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the area of light and life can
truly be fostered when we have
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people of spiritual, higher
spiritual consciousness getting
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together and talking
respectfully and finding unity
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through diversity is one of the
most powerful places that we as
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a a family of humans can move
forward on this planet.
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Do you think I I have to, We'll
have to have a separate talk
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about that because that's a
whole other stuff, you know,
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because some of the words that
are used, like some of the words
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that you use, they're what's
the, you know, like the word
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empowerment.
I hear that word bantered about
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empower the children, empower
this, empower that.
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But sometimes they think, you
know, people reserve the right
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to too much what they call.
Or what I call unearned power.
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It's like, you know, children,
there's a certain amount of
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humility that you have to have
humbleness.
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And you don't walk around
thinking about how empowered you
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are.
You think about how you want to
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serve other people.
So that should be the impetus
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for what you're doing in your
daily life.
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How do I make the world a better
place?
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Not how do I make the world a
better place for me?
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And I think that's what gets
lost sometimes.
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I'm not saying the people
shouldn't feel good about who
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they are and what they're doing.
But you know it empowering must
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come with a certain amount of
you earned it and it's not just
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something that you're entitled
to when it comes to that.
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And I think our kids are growing
up with a sense of too much self
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importance and then they grow up
to be little radical activists,
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you know and and but again
that's a subject for another
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day.
So did you get the sense that
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more people are aware of the
Rancho Book now than, say, 10
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years ago?
And they maybe not know much
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about it.
Or what's your assessment of how
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people either recognize or don't
recognize the Irancha book?
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Well, I would, I would probably
say yes to what you said, more
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interest, curiosity and
acknowledgement.
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Yet it will take time for the
study, especially because it's,
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you know in English and English
as a second language.
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Even though English is the
official language, most of them
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come about it as a second
language.
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So there's a lot of translation
opportunity for years to come in
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all areas of the world that
definitely Africa and that has
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any.
There is one person that I know,
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a young man, very interested and
devoted to that project in the
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Lugan Ben they call it is their
secondary official language
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apart from English that that
actually is lower on the totem
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pole pole, say relative to.
I think Swahili might be the
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first translation that happens
over there.
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Yeah that's something that in my
other blog post of how to help
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them be more self sustainable is
give them tools for studying and
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not just giving them money.
Right.
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I'm I'm all about figuring out
how we can well, I use the word
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empower in that way to take it
on themselves as the responsible
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party to help their neighbors
study it and be more free.
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So study guides it translated
into other languages and and of
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course the fellowship has a lot
of opportunity there.
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So again this is a shout out to
any listeners that want to be on
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board.
There's so much service
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opportunity if you want to get
involved.
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I imagine teachers, you know, I
have this theory and it's
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actually quite funny, I think,
but I've noticed that people who
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are very religious.
Very rarely ever read their
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books.
They they seem to know a lot
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about them, but they don't
actually take the time to read
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them like the Book of Mormon.
Have you ever met anybody who's
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actually but yeah, there are
more?
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Or the Bible.
Or the Bible.
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Yeah, they might read the
Gospels of Revelation once or
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twice and that's it.
And then they think they're
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experts.
But people are not I.
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As a Urancho book reader, if I
had not ever heard of it, and
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today I found it, I would lie.
I don't have time to read that.
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I can't read all that.
So but yeah, how do we get
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people to read the book?
That's the that's the question.
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Well, so yeah, what was coming
to my mind was exactly what
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people like you and I are doing.
And it's all about secondary
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works.
You know, with this era that
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we're living in, where people's
attention span is becoming
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shorter and the people who
actually like to read are
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becoming less, how can we
inspire them?
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To read?
Is by doing podcasts.
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And I'm actually getting ready
to publish my first children's
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book or things like blog post or
social media shorts or people
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like Gary Tong who do these
beautiful videos and get them
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out to YouTube.
So it's it's really all about
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the secondary works I think.
And I think that the more people
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who do secondary works projects,
not just books, but all
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different kinds, that even if
just one person catches that,
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that is doing a good thing.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
So I.
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Here's a shout out to all of you
listeners out there.
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They if you're inspired to do
something creative, even if
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someone else is doing it,
they're not gonna be doing it.
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Like you're gonna do it.
Yeah.
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So just do it.
All right.
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It's April, Helen.
Calm and and I have so many
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different resources and please
there's a contact page if
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anybody out there wants to know
about any of the service
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projects I can connect to.
You just get involved.
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You know the life of loving
service and living a life on
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purpose for the the brotherhood
and the sisterhood of humankind,
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that is.
That is where the love is at.
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I've been thinking about the
Great Migration.
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Noon and night they leave the
flock and I imagine that
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destination.
Meadow grass, jagged rock.
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The Lord is my engineer, the
Lord is the earth.
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How right on the Lord is the
face in the atmosphere?
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The path is slipping a slide.
You've been listening to my
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guest April Helen talking about.
A truly inspiring story.
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Her story of living the
Revelation in Africa.
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Crystal Comma Starlit Knife,
Silver Moon to smooth the edge
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of daylight.
Now it turned evening rose.
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Tribal voices, Old and young
celebrations.
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A history of family song.
The endless river flows.
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As always, it's so wonderful
that you're able to stop by.
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Always love hearing from you.
Got a question or a comment?
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Your Rancho book?
Radio@gmail.com and I look
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forward to catching up with you
on the next podcast right here
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on your Rancho radio.
