Project Jesus and The Center for Unity

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Imagine a group of people from
all points across the world

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working to create a four-pronged
project.

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That includes a Jesus multimedia
Center and museum near the Sea

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of Galilee a virtual meta
Universe of Jesus life that you

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can experience as well as have
at your fingertips online.

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Which brings all of the facts of
his life to you.

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And finally A continuing movie
series that takes the stories

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from the life and teachings of
the Jesus, And puts them in

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cinema.
That is a pretty amazing project

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and that is exactly what the
center for Unity project is.

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I'm delighted to have Gabriel
Ryan, Berg and Israel who

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formulated the project along
with Santiago Neyland.

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Steve marble, Luis Morales,
Caribe lash and Rick Lyon.

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All of whom are also students of
the Rancho book.

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And each playing a significant
part of this Center for Unity

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project, which we will discuss
now on the Rancher radio.

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Podcast, let me have everybody
introduce themselves so that

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everybody gets an opportunity to
introduce themselves to the

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audience.
Well, let's start from Rick and

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then you Rick, you can pass it
along, introduce everybody and

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your involvement in the center
for unity.

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All right, well, my involvement
with the center for Unity began.

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Probably in 2014.
When I met Gabriel on a hillside

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overlooking, the Sea of Galilee
and we actually your answer

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group, there's a tour with Diane
labrecque and gave Told us what

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he was thinking about doing
there.

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And so we had a brief prayer and
started from there.

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So Gabriel has put together a
team.

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And, and so all you last fall,
it was when I really got

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involved, seriously and things
just started rolling since then.

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So I've been a year range book
readers since 1978 and really

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started getting involved in the
range of activities and 93.

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And I've served in many roles
with different associations.

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Ins and fellowship and you.
Anyway, I and helped with the

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foundation to.
So I've been around for a while

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and seeing a lot of things and
I've been involved in a lot of

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projects, but I don't think I've
ever seen one that had the

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potential and the way things
have come together with all

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this.
I've never seen that before.

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So it's something totally new
and totally exciting, and I'm

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really pleased to be part of it.
So maybe I'll hand it off to you

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then.
So my name is Gabriel and I live

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in Israel.
I was born Jewish.

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And until I was about 40 years
old, no more, I had no

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connection to Jesus and no
understanding of anything and

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you're untouchable came into my
life.

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And I spent the next seven
years, translating it into

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Hebrew, I was baptized in the
Jordan and 2014.

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At the same time, I'm a break
and I was still busy,

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translating your run check.
Back then.

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So I just had vague ideas of
something on the Mount of

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Beatitudes and well work, eight
years later now.

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And those vague ideas have
become for concrete projects.

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All of them are focused on
sharing the life and teachings

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of Jesus.
With everybody and especially,

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we're targeting young people
around the world.

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So I just like ideas and once my
relationship with Jesus,

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materialize to the point where I
understand, not just in the head

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but in the heart, what it means
to have a personal relationship

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with God.
So everything I do is centered

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around that and all these
projects have that in mind, this

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is what we pray for.
I think that using these methods

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new technologies and the
information in part four of the

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Rancher book is going to be a
bang you know it's like a an

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explosive combination that will
touch many hearts and that's

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what we're focused on.
Pass it on to Luis Miguel

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miramon.
Oh, thank you.

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Gabriel, and hi everyone.
It's a pleasure to to be here

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and Jim nice to meet you.
Meet you.

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Well I mean, in the Patagonia
Argentina, some pretty pretty

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far from all of you and I'm, I'm
from Colombia.

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I've been reading the book since
1990 And at least four times and

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I found the book through the JJ
Benitez novel story, it's the

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Trojan Horse.
Oh, and I found that different

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Jesus and that grabs me.
It was, it was something magic

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and II wanted to know more about
that Jesus because it was it was

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different That the one picture
on my, on my Catholic

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background, you know, and they
found it so so so attracted that

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II feel that they need to
understand more and some

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somebody says to me that I
should follow a link and I

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follow it and I found the UK and
the rest is history and it seems

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that I have been transforming my
life.

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All the time.
And I'm just thinking about

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probably what I should do best
if the, if the life is eternal.

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So it's like that, that come to
my mind all the time.

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So I I started looking for art.
So I become a Celestial Artisan

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in in potentially so I make
music You probably have heard me

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before I meet you at tea and I
love to make music about the

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ranch a book and and then I'm a
specialist on human resources I

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have more than 30 years of
experience.

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I'm an expert on on that matter.
I'm a professional coach and I

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work.
I worked for so many

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organizations and and that has
become real Matter on my life

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because his it means for me that
my purpose is is intending to 22

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and you're more than this life.
So I've been working with

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groups, I will working with
teams and I and I help teams

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become better and that that with
the, with the lessons of the

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book have brought me here to the
Center for Unity after the

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hackathon we had on 20/20.
Yeah.

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Well we contact with Gabriel and
make a lot of talking and then

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one thing becomes to another and
here we are building a trying to

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build a world-class
organization.

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That is more than a bunch of
readers behind a project.

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But actually we are stepping one
step ahead of what the people of

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the relative you book reader can
It to understand the book, we

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are doing more of that.
We are trying to picture Jesus

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as we as we read it.
So I'm very happy and very

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thrill to be here and it's a
pleasure to have all you on

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board because we are kind of the
same in the same Mission.

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So I'm going to pass to to carry
I'm honored to be here and to be

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a part of this team, but see, I
have been reading and studying

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the Rancher book for over 30
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My parents posted a study group
for about 30 years and my mother

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received the book from my
grandmother and her sister.

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I guess you could say I'm third
generation.

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Wow.
So I've been reading and

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studying as, you know, as best I
can throughout my adult life and

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building a career and a family.
And I had a business in between

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but I also have a 28-year career
with public television, with the

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New Orleans, public television
station.

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And yes Productions.
Yes, Productions is the

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production Department of wyes.
At the 12th.

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Oldest PBS station in the nation
so we're 65 years old, and

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thanks to Hurricane Katrina.
We now have a forty seven

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thousand square foot facility is
probably one of the best in the

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country.
We have three floors for

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Studios, you know, top of the
line equipment, an incredible

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team and what has opened in the
last six months is really

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exciting because we have
partnered with Kenny Morrison

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Productions to bring in all the
Cutting Edge, virtual reality

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and virtual production into our
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So that's what's really going to
be helpful for this project and

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this convergence of talent and
staff was going on.

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While I was learning more about
the center, Unity and learning

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about the needs and lo and
behold, Gabriel Nile spoke about

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this and I said, well it is a
possibility.

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We might be able to help it
says, you know, continues on and

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in terms of the Cinematic
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So I was able to discuss this
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he was at the same time,
bringing in and developing This

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partnership to bring in CGI and
fresh will production into our

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studio space.
So it's very exciting to be

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working for public television
and yes, productions for so long

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and also to be able to bring
something to the table here for

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the center for Unity team and to
bring Jesus to life.

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And you know, we're honing in.
On what stories are the most

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important to start with, with
building a framework.

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And we can tell you more about
that as we go along.

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But I'm excited to bring in two
of my loves and passions

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together.
Yeah, that's great hundred

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indeed.
And then finally, we have I

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guess it would be the second
Square down on the right from

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where I'm sitting, Santiago
Santiago.

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Then the gentleman in the
center, the Center Square.

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Do you all see each other, the
same way, I see each other

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Gabriel's on the upper left now
like I'm the Hollywood Squares.

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Do any of you know that TV show
you can actually move the

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squares around by dragging and
low, okay?

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All right, okay.
Yeah.

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Well, you Tim yeah, yeah.
Well, thank you Jim.

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My name is Santiago Neil and I'm
actually a fan of your podcast.

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I really enjoy your your your
program.

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I think it's a very enlightening
you have a variety of themed so

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so I enjoy it.
A lot means a lot to me.

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Well, I'm a 20 plus years,
reader discovered, the ranch

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book around 1999.
At that time.

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I was a little bit
disenfranchised with the

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Catholic Church.
Had been for quite some time.

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You know.
There's a there were a lot of

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things that didn't really match
up, you know.

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So I was in a search for four
meaning, you know, different

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different places that I look for
in suddenly the book arrived and

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it presented a new version of
Jesus.

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In some of the most are all of
the missing pieces that I that I

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had from the from Catholicism
really came into San stand.

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It presented a different version
that really, really matched my

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heart and matched.
What really?

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I mean something that really
filled me, you know, it was

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different completely, different
version that made sense.

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And I remember I had a little
return by mail thing, inside the

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book that I failed, I didn't
think nobody was going to

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contact me and I filled in and
somebody from the you Ranch

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Association contacted and I
started going to presentations,

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then did it?
Study group and now I'm here and

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the center for Unity.
I've been participating in the

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Mexico Association.
I even was there when it was

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charted with back in the day
with Kathy Jones and I was I was

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fun and actually I talked to
Kathy and he said well anything

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that you need for my part and
she said well can you do

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translations and suddenly I was
there in the middle of a

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translations and in doing that
but doing the other the

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association translation back and
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I'm English and Spanish and and
then I started meeting other

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people get gone.
I went to the Chicago

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conference.
I think that was back in two

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thousand, four or five.
I went to Chicago and and then

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we did the hackathon, two years
ago, that's where I met.

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Louise, me, I met Gabriel and I
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couple months ago and it has
really been something.

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At my soul needed.
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I mean this is a project that
ever since you start reading the

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ranch a book, you want to take
it a little bit further, it's

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like, well, we have to reveal
this to the world and it's slow.

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Its, it kind of little bit
frustrating that you get.

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A lot of people do not know this
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It can be so rewarding for them,
it can, it can help them so

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much.
So when this project came along

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and all the initiatives that we
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that they Center for Unity.
It's All about, I was really

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excited and things are starting
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I feel really blessed to be part
of this team, I'm in charge of

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sales and marketing and I'm also
helping in the Cinematic part of

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our projects.
So really excited to be here

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really excited to be with this
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And like Rick said, and Gabriel
said, this is something that we

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want to share with the world,
especially nowadays in.

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This is what you've discussed in
some of your podcast, with a

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World that we live in and the
battle that's been waging right

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now between God and in, the
secular world that we have to

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bring the Jesus story in Jesus
life to to more people and they

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can really Comfort their souls
in there, they can find that

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personal relationship with God
that that Gabriel talks about.

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And and I think this is
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change their hearts and really
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Like, it happened to me.
Me where I was fed up with a

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traditional religion, and I
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with God and I have my own
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relationship and personal
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So that's that's my story.
Thanks, Santiago, that's great.

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How did, how the heck did you
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Spanish?
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Hebrew, I mean, I must be a
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And then finally, sir, the
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middle, I Jim, I'm Steven marble
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I'm, I'm in California.
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Gabriel and what he does.
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solo reader and kept it with me
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Tainment.
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somebody and in the word you
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Our yesterday, I was with this
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film on The Shroud of Turin and
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was created, and he said he
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second person in that is ask me.
If I've read the you and I spoke

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in the other was some famous
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Nashville, whose name?
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readers out there besides my
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I started becoming a student and
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religion was telling me was the
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So I come at it from a cosmic.
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about this project is it's
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which as a Protestant Christian
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when I was younger and be went
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spiritual seeking and all of the
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and then it back to Jesus all
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biggest example.
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of the Urantia book?
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but I never have studied it.
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fits in the big puzzle pieces of
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mostly an expanded Cinema.
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filmmaking, then I was teaching
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then oh suddenly I'm making
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I was making eight millimeter
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them up to 16 and I graduated
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we'll friends of mine and myself
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and 1985, and that did quite a
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film and later on we also
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So my background has been in
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Hollywood and I was their senior
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official title.
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the sole survivor of those
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entertainment as we created that
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produced.
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when I finally connected with
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been doing, I wasn't just
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happening, especially on the Sea
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And what what this could mean as
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presentation for Jesus and I'm
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commitments project.
I can't tell you how many times

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I went to the center and the
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just got it blown away by, then
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years ago, I think I got kind of
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probably the best IMAX film ever
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I think that's unbelievable,
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So I'm lucky I consider my I'm
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the 80s, was the Golden Age of
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think that'll ever be like that
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So creative.
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same time that I discovered the
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Christianity.
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a Christian, but I, but I had
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thought there would be a
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Out, that's when I realized,
that's the way to reach people

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because in radio, it has been
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The people have a real

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relationship with another
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It's almost as good as having a
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in public.
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a baseball game or a whatever
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they're having that symbiotic
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book probably a thousand times
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times from cover to cover, I
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guys.
It's like you go back and you

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ReDiscover things.
You've read him a thousand times

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and you go.
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So let's get to the unity
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So tell me what you're doing
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different things.
You've got the metaverse, which

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is exciting to me.
Who wants to take the charge and

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kind of give us an overview.
I think I'm going to take that

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question.
I'm sharing with you a tree so

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obviously our listeners will now
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to describe it.
We call this the 25-year Vision

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tree because our projects there
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mention them by name and explain
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They're very, very long and
quite ambitious so we're taking

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them one step at a time.
They're based on the life and

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teachings of Jesus.
India Rancho book and a

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wonderful piece of art because
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of Jesus.
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coffee table format book
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synthesis.
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Jesus based on Urantia book.
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So, these two are our main
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using the gospels synoptic
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Anything authentic that we can
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of Jesus.
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all these sources to create
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as an organization On creating
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spiritual transformations.
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and now I'm going to describe to
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explain what our projects are.
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piece, we call the Jesus
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That's a nap, then we have to
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Means you're going somewhere,
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One of them is called the Jesus
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on the shores of the Sea of
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where right now, you can see
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and Whole story in and of
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But there is an object that will
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Sea of Galilee receded.
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from the Rancher book, you can
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that Jesus Built with his own
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Zebedee boat shop.
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time, it's something he designed
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be an in-person experience, you
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will go into a different room,
huge room where Stephen is going

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to do his magic and basically
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another lifetime.
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witness in person what happened,
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also going to try to document in
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What Happened.
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Because Jesus was here, what
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last 2,000 years but that's why
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not a regular Museum.
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artifacts and some pieces of Art
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going to be the main focus.
The main focus is going to be a

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personal experience.
Now, imagine you take that and

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you bring it to people all over
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So for those who cannot travel
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going to make an experience
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experience Jesus and that's
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around the world just like a van
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experience.
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that are doing this immersive
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different types of our Cysts and
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So we're going to do this about
Jesus and then that means you

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can walk into a venue somewhere
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something similar to what we're
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Let me ask you a question real
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I would imagine there are
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churches, Christian groups that
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know that they would have some
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virtual reality walking through
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you aware of any?
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is no Jesus Museum here or
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And there is the question is why
I don't have an answer to that.

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But it has never been done.
And I think the one of the main

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points here is that we're
marrying technology with

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information.
The ranch a book has a complete

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description of the life and
teachings of Jesus from before

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He actually came here to after
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We're going to focus on the time
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much information and insights
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It has been never done before it
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you Rancho students, didn't do
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Iran.
Triple so this is a first but

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even a Jesus Museum doesn't
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Yet strange.
We have one remote like we have

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one.
The NOAA Arc.

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Yeah we do does very well.
Yeah okay and there's the Bible

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Museum to in Washington, d.c. a
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It's gorgeous and it's amazing.
But there is nothing about

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Jesus.
So these two are the experience

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and the museum are our in-person
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we call cinematic Jesus.
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Santiago were talking about.
So imagine we Can do either

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we're still deliberating what
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you had a 50 episode 45 to 1
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Each minutes covering the entire
life of Jesus in drama, not a

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documentary.
But the actual things that

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happen both let's say fictional
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meet characters that Jesus met
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interaction that happened in
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But then we can fictionalize
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After what happened to Josiah?
The blind beggar after the

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Sanhedrin left him alone, what
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basically gave up his fortune
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Happened to the two courtesans
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And basically, for the first
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treated like versus yeah,
there's so many backstories, we

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can portray fictionally and
then, of course, tell, you know,

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show the son of man and the Son
of God and his ark of

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development, explain the things
that we see in the arranger

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book, and bring those pages to
life and share his decisions.

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Share his challenges, share his
relationships.

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It's all based on the stories
and the information we have in

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your on Triple J.
J Benitez has done that.

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And the result was that
thousands of people Luis Miguel

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included and others as well in
Latin America because his books

456
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were never translated to many
languages but thousands of

457
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:33,000
people that read it in.
Spanish says where's this Jesus

458
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,200
coming from I want to know more
and through that they found the

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Rancher book and decided to
study it.

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We're About disseminating, the
around Chapel, we are about

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sharing Jesus and his life and
helping people form a

462
00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:50,700
relationship with God, but if
they are called to read around

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00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:53,300
your book, so be it will be
happy.

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So cinematic is the fourth
fourth piece, imagine a 50

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episode series.
A lot of hours of film covering

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the entire story.
It will take us years to do, but

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we want to start now and we feel
that the Time is right?

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So the center for Unity is a
non-profit in Israel.

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It's not an actual center.
It's the name of our

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organization in charge of
executing all these projects in

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the all the people in this
school are working in these

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different projects.
And then the worldwide Ministry

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of Jesus is a is a known as an
American nonprofit in the United

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States.
It's mainly for fundraising.

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And for overseeing the financial
aspects of this operation.

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So this is basically an overview
why we're doing things.

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What is it that we're doing?
If I will just finish by saying

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that in these next 25 years and
I think even before that, we

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want to reach 1 billion people
and we think that this is

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ambitious but actually doable
but just give us an example.

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The serious, The Chosen that
started 3 years ago Go.

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They're going to release the
third season, in November, the

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first two seasons.
We watched more than 400 million

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times for granted.
People like me watched every

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episode several times, but
there's still a hundreds of

486
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millions of people who have
watched these two seasons.

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They are planning seven seasons.
And I think with these four

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projects, we you know, God
willing we will reach many, many

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millions.
If not billions of people and

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share Jesus bringing out to life
from the pages of your

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Lunchable.
It's pretty amazing.

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My first question is, how can I
help?

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And my second question is, how
can the listeners listening

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help?
Fundraising, obviously, you need

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00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,800
money to get this going and to
keep it going.

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Where, where are you at with
that funding?

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Let me take that question
because that's one of my role is

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as fundraising.
And yeah, we're fully set up to

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accept contributions and
donations.

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Let me start with a little bit
of structural organizational

501
00:34:20,699 --> 00:34:23,100
structure things that Gabriel
kind of touched on.

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There is the last year when this
really took a Came, it went up

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the next level.
We knew we had to have nonprofit

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00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:36,800
organizations to do this and
Gabriel contacted a law firm

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there in Israel, that had been
experience with creating museums

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and that sort of thing.
And they helped us create the

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center for Unity, nonprofit
organization in Israel.

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And then because of tax issues,
we knew we wanted to have some

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way for people like in the
United States because you know,

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they get a tax deduction for
contributions.

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So we set up the worldwide
Ministry.

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Jesus, we had a law firm here,
help us with that so that we can

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accept donations through
worldwide Ministry of Jesus.

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And then through a grant
process, get those at the center

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for Unity to fund our four
different projects.

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So that's the relationship
between Center for Unity and

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worldwide Ministry of Jesus.
But the best way for people to

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help, first of all, is through
prayer.

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You know, prayer is the most
powerful way of supporting what

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we're doing.
And, you know, I think all of

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us, Here and probably most
everybody that's listening.

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Knows the power of prayer when
all of us pray together for a

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good cause and something that we
believe is the will of God are

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all these projects working at
the same speed.

525
00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:43,000
Some obviously have to take
longer than others.

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Where are we at with each of the
four branches?

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Okay, so I'll take that one.
The metaverse is the software

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app we have been spending the
last year in building, a

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computer model of the Conditions
of Jesus, something that was

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never done before where things
are connected to one another, we

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have thousands of data points.
And then we can ask this model

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questions, like, you know, how
many times Jesus was in

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Jerusalem and what happened each
time in which dates was in.

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So instead of searching the
pages we want your book, we have

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now a model that can answer that
question.

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Or for example, show me all the
times that Jesus met Met a

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person.
Like what what?

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I called, as he passed by just
once and what happened in each

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each one of those signs.
Or for example, show me every

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event in which Simon Peter and
Jesus were together and show me

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the list of all these events.
What happened in each one of

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those and then you can start
seeing the relationship between,

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for example, Simon, Peter and
Jesus.

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So we have relationships and
places and events and times.

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And topics as a big team of
people have invested thousands

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of hours in collecting this
information, which now we're

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building a software product to
display in a database format.

548
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:15,700
So you can do research in a
study format, that you can

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actually see a sequence of
things and learn a topic like

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Jesus on gender equality.
Now, there's so much richness in

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the pages of the Rancher book
about.

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What was it that he was saying?
What was it that he said to

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different people and taught his
Apostles?

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What was it that he did?
Just like the example I gave

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before no heat treated to
prostitutes as children of God

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and gun, it the young men that
was beside.

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It was shocked.
And that young man came from

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India.
His father was very rich, he was

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probably living in the Harem.
He saw women.

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Yeah.
So he knew the meaning of what

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Jesus was doing and he was
shocked and he Was not the only

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one.
So obviously Jesus taught a lot

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of things about men and women,
marriage family, not to say

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that, you know, he didn't speak
specifically about lgbtq but we

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can in fear from the things that
he did, what was his thinking.

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So this is just one example, a
topic.

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We have hundreds of those.
Yeah yeah so that's the software

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called the metaverse.
It's the most advanced project.

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The museum we're negotiating
Elise and we're actually now

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starting to design it.
Stephen and local firm in Israel

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that has worldwide experience in
designing museums and venues are

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starting to do this conceptual
design.

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So this is advancing Carrie and
her team already have been

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producing detailed budgets for
films for us, and we're now

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writing the treatment.
This is Violence of the film is

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a street, a document that
explains the project so we're

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fleshing it out and the
experience will be based on the

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museum.
So, whatever we do with the

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museum, the derivative of that
is going to go into the

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experience.
So all four projects are

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advancing The Meta versus the
most advanced.

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It's the one that we need.
The least amount of resources at

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least Financial Resources for,
but we need the most amount of

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hours Force.
We've invested thousands of

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hours of ready.
My goodness, you know, David

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Cantor released a video.
I guess a couple years ago.

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Reimagining Jesus.
It is a kind of like that the

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the not the document, not the 50
part series but the metaverse

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where you sort of get the walk
through Jerusalem and Israel,

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the way that Jesus did is it
sort of like that?

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Like you get to see what it was
like back then through his eyes.

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That's a very good question.
We're starting with something

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that those meta versus will
exist and they're plural but

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they don't exist right now.
Not that Jesus one and not the

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other ones.
They're being built right now.

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So we're talking a few more
years into down the road.

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So the first version of the
Jesus metaverse is software app.

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You can run on your browser or
on your phone on your tablet.

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You don't need any special
special here and it's not going

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to be immersive in that sense,
it's going to be experiential.

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But more with media that we have
today with videos and art and

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00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,800
comics, and text and audio, and
podcasts and books, and

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articles.
So you can think of it, as the

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research mode will be like a
Wikipedia on the life and

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teachings of Jesus with a lot of
media files and, and hyperlinks.

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So you can jump from one thing
to the other and then the

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studies is are going to be a
topical introduction.

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And then there's another layer
to that product which is the

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community and social layer.
Where you can interact with

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other people.
And that's this is what young

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people today want.
They want to unbundle Faith,

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they want to take a little bit
of the church and take a little

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00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,100
bit of meditation, a little bit
of mindfulness and do some music

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00:41:11,100 --> 00:41:14,800
and yoga and dancing and find
God their own way.

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So our product is going to be
part of that Trend.

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Yeah, in the back of my mind, I
asked myself, what is the

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Christian world going to do with
this?

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Because they're the Ironically,
they're the biggest Optical

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00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,100
obstacle.
Go go figure, right?

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But it's because of that Dogma,
you know, they want to cling to

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and I don't know how to overcome
that.

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00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,200
I woke up this morning thinking
about that.

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There was an article in the
paper where a gentleman wrote

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about how we should embrace
Christian nationalism which may

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00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,600
or may not be a good thing.
But I think what he's saying is

626
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,200
that the Christian church has an
opportunity here to become a

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00:41:54,500 --> 00:41:57,800
more political force.
By using the power of

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00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,600
Christianity.
I'm not sure how I feel about

629
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,600
that.
It seems almost like a, okay,

630
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,600
now we're trying to find a
reason to, to exist, aside from

631
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,400
teaching, the teachings of
Jesus, you know?

632
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,600
But as have you any of you had
any blowback from people saying

633
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,500
you can't do this.
Why don't you do the Bible

634
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:17,600
instead of the Rancho book stuff
like that?

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00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,200
Yeah, yeah.
Can it can I kind of answer the

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00:42:21,208 --> 00:42:23,900
head?
Yeah well that's that's been one

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00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:25,400
of the things that we found her
too.

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00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,500
Actually For a couple pass a
couple of months, it's okay.

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And we've actually categorized
as you enter book readers and

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00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:38,900
Christian, Christian Christian.
See you know, and we actually

641
00:42:38,900 --> 00:42:42,800
try to approach to look for
donations and to look for

642
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,800
contribution and to to make them
part of our part of our world.

643
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,700
But I think like you're seeing,
it's a, I don't know, the deeply

644
00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:55,000
rooted Christians, it's the
Bible, and that's it.

645
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,200
There's no, there's no.
No other reason out there and

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00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,900
actually we had some, some, some
people asking us, well, why are

647
00:43:02,900 --> 00:43:05,400
you saying this book instead of
the Bible?

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00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,000
And so we decided to say, you
know, first we have to explain

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what the Rancher book is.
They have to understand what's

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00:43:11,500 --> 00:43:15,400
in there that it's not
contradicting Christianity, but

651
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,300
expanding it.
And really there wasn't any any.

652
00:43:19,300 --> 00:43:24,500
We didn't find any benefit of
trying to get the resources from

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00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:27,000
them or trying to get.
Involved in here.

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00:43:28,300 --> 00:43:31,100
So that's really a question that
you see what's going to happen.

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I think that the, the ones that
are really ingrained in their

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really sending to their ways,
it'll be hard for them to

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participate.
I don't know if once we put out

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00:43:42,700 --> 00:43:45,700
the information and we have the
projects out there and they see

659
00:43:45,900 --> 00:43:49,200
that this isn't going against
Christianity, but expanding it,

660
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,100
they might open up, but I think
it's a little bit of what

661
00:43:52,100 --> 00:43:56,900
happened with with Jesus in
that, but the Gentiles were the

662
00:43:56,900 --> 00:44:00,200
ones that really took on on his
teachings.

663
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,200
You know, the juice kind of kind
of want their went their way.

664
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,300
You're right.
I'm right.

665
00:44:05,300 --> 00:44:07,800
I think that's going to happen.
And I think like we were saying

666
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this is year to younger people.
I look at my I have a three

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kids.
I have a 12 year old, the

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00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,100
seven-year and a three-year-old,
which, I mean, I can't just give

669
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:19,800
them their, yeah, checkbook at
their age, it's too hard for

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00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,700
them, you know.
But I relate what Jesus, you

671
00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:25,800
know, the Jesus version of
Urantia book.

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The really the information from
your engine book and I always

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ask myself, when can they have a
resource that they can go to on

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00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:36,900
their own, and they can really
experience this on their own and

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00:44:36,900 --> 00:44:38,100
I think this is what we're
doing.

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This is putting a very practical
way to approach Jesus and I

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00:44:42,700 --> 00:44:45,900
think that's that's the number
one way and how everybody like,

678
00:44:45,900 --> 00:44:48,600
Louise me and in the
Spanish-speaking world came to

679
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,900
read the ranch a book, it was
really that connection that they

680
00:44:51,900 --> 00:44:57,900
made with with, Jesus, that
brought them to this place.

681
00:44:58,500 --> 00:45:03,700
I think Kelly had something she
wanted to say good Kelly Carrie

682
00:45:03,700 --> 00:45:05,300
Carrie.
Sorry, my apologies.

683
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,500
Well, from a production
standpoint, I can tell you that

684
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:15,700
Kenny Morrison director and his
team are looking into all this

685
00:45:15,700 --> 00:45:20,100
and they're really excited about
producing something new and

686
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:22,300
something different that hasn't
been done before.

687
00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:27,200
There's so much Rich detail that
there are looking Into and I

688
00:45:27,208 --> 00:45:34,300
think that that will you know
really resonate and be relevant

689
00:45:34,300 --> 00:45:38,100
to a lot of folks.
So from a production standpoint

690
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,900
there, also we didn't really
talk about this too much but

691
00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:46,000
there's going to be live actors
so it's a convergent of live

692
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:52,300
actors along with the virtual
production and it allows us with

693
00:45:52,300 --> 00:45:55,800
such to have so many
efficiencies along the way.

694
00:45:55,900 --> 00:46:00,800
Along the production Journey, it
allows the entire team to have

695
00:46:00,900 --> 00:46:04,600
input along the way as well in
advance.

696
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:09,200
And, you know, a lot of
different approval, nice,

697
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,800
approval process.
It's solid that's part of every

698
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,500
production, but it's very
exciting to.

699
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,100
They are telling me, you know,
to have such new detail and new

700
00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:22,200
information to produce some very
good.

701
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,400
Anyone else on that question, do
you think America is go ahead.

702
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:28,500
Go ahead.
Gabriel.

703
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,900
I'll just say that.
One quote, from the, from

704
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,100
Cinema, from Field of Dreams,
build it and they will come.

705
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:43,800
So we're going to build it and
they will come but also more

706
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:49,700
practical.
We feel that we want to focus on

707
00:46:49,700 --> 00:46:54,700
the Jesus before Christianity.
That doesn't mean anything.

708
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:57,400
It doesn't imply anything about
Christianity, got it.

709
00:46:57,500 --> 00:47:02,000
Whoever is Christian, whoever's
Jewish wherever's Muslim, they

710
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,800
can have their own faith.
We just want to share this

711
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,000
person.
This the particular life and

712
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:13,600
teachings of this person and how
the simple truths of his gospel,

713
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,600
you know, that we are children
of God.

714
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,400
We are loved unconditionally.
We are brothers and sisters,

715
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,500
literally in the spirit.
We don't have to think alike.

716
00:47:22,900 --> 00:47:27,500
Look alike, you don't have to be
uniform to be United, right?

717
00:47:27,500 --> 00:47:30,700
And there's a few other
teachings about love and about

718
00:47:30,700 --> 00:47:35,000
forgiveness that allow anger and
about, you know, everything

719
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,600
being about love, which I think
he came a little bit early for

720
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,000
Humanity, but Humanity needs to
catch up.

721
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,300
We've been catching up
technologically wonderfully

722
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,100
materially.
But spiritually, we still have

723
00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:51,700
some work to do and his
teachings are so relevant.

724
00:47:52,700 --> 00:47:56,900
To myself, you know, 15 years
ago I was deeply stuck in the

725
00:47:56,900 --> 00:48:01,700
material world, no connection to
God, deeply lost, deeply

726
00:48:01,700 --> 00:48:06,800
miserable, and I had to get a
few flicks and Flax on the head

727
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,000
and then on the behind.
So that life will turn me

728
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,900
around.
So, I can start asking, you

729
00:48:11,900 --> 00:48:17,200
know, why, or what, what else is
out there that are missing and

730
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,400
then open up to a relationship
with God, there's many people

731
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,800
who are searching They they are
hungry.

732
00:48:24,300 --> 00:48:27,600
We want to share some spiritual
food with them in an appealing

733
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,500
and accessible way.
We're going to translate these

734
00:48:30,500 --> 00:48:33,600
products to every conceivable
language that's a huge product.

735
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:34,900
That is what we're going to do
that.

736
00:48:35,100 --> 00:48:37,000
We're going to make it
accessible to the hard of

737
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,100
hearing and the visually
impaired.

738
00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:43,400
We basically want any person on
the planet to have access to

739
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,700
this.
The metaverse is going to be

740
00:48:45,700 --> 00:48:49,200
always free, no ads.
We're not going to sell

741
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:50,500
anything.
We're not going to sell you to

742
00:48:50,500 --> 00:48:54,900
anybody else.
So we do need help building this

743
00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:59,900
made of herbs.
And what I do I just finished by

744
00:48:59,900 --> 00:49:02,900
saying, remember Jesus before
Christianity.

745
00:49:02,900 --> 00:49:07,000
Jesus was not Christian, he had
nothing to do with Christianity

746
00:49:07,300 --> 00:49:10,700
and most people in the world
including myself when you ask

747
00:49:10,700 --> 00:49:12,700
them and they're not Christians,
they will say yes.

748
00:49:12,700 --> 00:49:15,500
Jesus and Christianity are the
same but it's not.

749
00:49:15,500 --> 00:49:19,700
True Jesus is is Before
Christianity.

750
00:49:19,700 --> 00:49:23,500
So we will focus on that on
Jesus before Christianity.

751
00:49:25,300 --> 00:49:28,500
If I could jump in here without
of a personal story, a longer,

752
00:49:28,500 --> 00:49:30,500
your question.
There.

753
00:49:30,500 --> 00:49:34,000
You know, the relationship of
Christians with what we're two

754
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,400
doing here.
And but we had a fellow contact

755
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,400
us, it was a gospel pastor and
Michigan who was interested in

756
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:42,800
the metaverse and wanted to know
more.

757
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,500
So I talked to him on the phone
for quite a while and told him

758
00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:49,700
about the meta verse and what it
was doing, you know, and I think

759
00:49:49,700 --> 00:49:52,800
one of the important aspects of
the metaverse is it's not just

760
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,300
an entertainment but it's a tool
that people can use.

761
00:49:55,300 --> 00:49:57,000
Use for in-depth, study of the
book.

762
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,000
You know, you can, you can make
all these connections through

763
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,700
these nodes that gave her was
talking about how, our, how is

764
00:50:03,700 --> 00:50:07,100
everything interconnected who
was connected to this event.

765
00:50:07,500 --> 00:50:10,100
Where is this event?
You know, what's what's the

766
00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:11,900
area?
Like, and what's it look like

767
00:50:11,900 --> 00:50:13,500
and where is it?
What's it like today and all

768
00:50:13,500 --> 00:50:16,500
that kind of stuff?
But this pastor once I told him

769
00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:20,900
what, what the metaverse
actually was, he said, you know,

770
00:50:20,900 --> 00:50:25,000
this is a valuable tool for him
as far as creating his sermons

771
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,300
and Things like that, he can go
in there.

772
00:50:27,300 --> 00:50:30,200
He says I've got a whole Library
full of books but I can't find

773
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,900
what I need when I need it.
But you know the way the

774
00:50:32,900 --> 00:50:35,200
metaverse is going to work, it's
going to be very easy.

775
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,500
He could see that it was going
to be very easy for him to go in

776
00:50:38,500 --> 00:50:41,800
there and dig really deep into
any particular topic and find

777
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,000
the information that he needs to
then take that to his

778
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,100
congregation and he said the
other thing.

779
00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:51,700
The other aspect of the
metaverse as far as being a tool

780
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:55,800
for in-depth study was that, you
know, he has a youth or Youth

781
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,000
Center where he helps
disadvantaged youth.

782
00:50:58,300 --> 00:51:01,600
He said a lot of them have
trouble reading and so, all the

783
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,800
visual and audio aspect that's
going to be in the meadow verse

784
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:09,200
will help those young people
find and discover Jesus and the

785
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,300
Jesus that they can relate to.
So I think that's a very

786
00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:18,000
important aspect of the
metaphors I can't wait the, the

787
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:22,000
movie think, I think is good to
this this multiples, multiple

788
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,600
series.
Because I think outside of the

789
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,200
United States, I think there's
much more hunger for this.

790
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,200
Then within the United States
were to embroiled and silliness,

791
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,700
you know, distractions and bad
leadership.

792
00:51:35,700 --> 00:51:42,000
All the things that we know what
is the, what is the thing about

793
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,900
the Unseen?
Father, I remember having a

794
00:51:43,908 --> 00:51:46,200
conversation with someone On
that.

795
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,300
This was it some point.
You could see that we would

796
00:51:49,300 --> 00:51:51,900
build a temple for worship
somewhere.

797
00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:54,400
Along the Sea of Galilee was
that a part of any of this

798
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,400
Gabriel?
Yeah, yeah.

799
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:03,100
Actually, this is that idea of
building a temple for the

800
00:52:03,100 --> 00:52:05,800
Unseen.
Father was the first thing that

801
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:12,700
arrived many years ago, and I
think that's going to be part of

802
00:52:12,700 --> 00:52:15,500
this Vision, but it's not
something we're actively.

803
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:18,700
Really working on right now in
the beginning we thought this

804
00:52:18,700 --> 00:52:25,000
Museum will have a worship area.
I think it should still have a

805
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,700
worship area, we haven't
designed the museum but it's

806
00:52:27,700 --> 00:52:32,200
easier for for us when we
discuss these things with the

807
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,700
Israeli government to say we're
building a Jesus Museum, it's a

808
00:52:35,708 --> 00:52:38,600
better.
It's an easier sell and it's

809
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,800
also true that we want to build
something like this.

810
00:52:43,500 --> 00:52:47,700
I think the temple will come.
We will get the sign that this

811
00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:50,400
is the right time.
We will probably have to buy

812
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,100
piece of land around the Sea of
Galilee for that frankly.

813
00:52:54,100 --> 00:52:57,700
Right now, nobody stepped up and
say Here's 25 million dollars,

814
00:52:57,700 --> 00:53:00,300
build it for me.
If somebody steps up and says

815
00:53:00,300 --> 00:53:04,100
here's 25 million dollars, build
it for me, I will do that.

816
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:08,500
But burying the fact that I
don't have 25 million dollars.

817
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:12,400
That means we have to wait until
this is the right time and when

818
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,000
the finances are there, it's
probably going to be a good

819
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,400
indicator.
We can do the museum for a

820
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,400
fraction of that cost.
We can do the metaverse for a

821
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,700
fraction of that caused the 50
episode serious is going to be

822
00:53:26,700 --> 00:53:30,400
the most expensive thing because
film is film, but it's going to

823
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,800
be something that will have so
much impact because people film

824
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,600
Fail and people love Cinema.
Yeah.

825
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:43,600
In Jesus still sales today.
Yeah and in books and in films

826
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,700
because he's drawing people to
him and all we have to do is

827
00:53:47,700 --> 00:53:49,900
lift them up.
So this is what we're doing.

828
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,400
The temple will come.
We are.

829
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,900
It's in my mind.
It's what started all of this.

830
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:03,100
So I guess I needed to hear that
first and then sometime later

831
00:54:03,100 --> 00:54:04,800
down the road, this will
materialize.

832
00:54:04,900 --> 00:54:08,600
I can tell you another story
being in Israel living in Israel

833
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,400
growing up in Israel.
I know the Sea of Galilee very

834
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:16,600
well, been there many, many
times, there's a whole area, the

835
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,800
northern part of the Sea of
Galilee, which is completely

836
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:25,600
empty, its Rolling Hills with
nothing, nothing nothing in it.

837
00:54:25,900 --> 00:54:30,000
And there's one road that drives
through it, on the way to the

838
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,600
other side.
And I was driving with my wife

839
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:37,600
Sandra several times on that.
And I could see I could feel

840
00:54:38,500 --> 00:54:41,400
that this would be an
educational center.

841
00:54:41,700 --> 00:54:45,600
The years to come beings from
all over.

842
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,400
The universe will come to this
planet because they will know

843
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:55,100
who Jesus is and then it will
come here to find out more about

844
00:54:55,100 --> 00:54:59,000
this particular world.
And what more befitting place to

845
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,900
build such a center than that
place?

846
00:55:02,300 --> 00:55:05,900
I think the tempo will be the
Cornerstone none of that place.

847
00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:09,100
When is the right time for that?
I don't know.

848
00:55:09,700 --> 00:55:14,800
But we will find out may also be
a reflection or when that

849
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,300
happens will be a reflection of
how far we have come.

850
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,400
Yes, right.
Well I know, I know it's going

851
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,100
to be unbelievable for y'all but
we've been here for an hour and

852
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:29,200
I want to give everybody an
opportunity to say a few things

853
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:32,800
about their involvement and any
thoughts that you have about the

854
00:55:32,900 --> 00:55:36,500
Urantia movement.
In debt before I do that,

855
00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:39,200
though, I do have a question for
Argentinian friend.

856
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,600
There has been a lot of
discussion that I've had with a

857
00:55:41,608 --> 00:55:45,700
lot of people about the
expansion and explosion of the

858
00:55:45,700 --> 00:55:49,800
Rancho book in South America,
which is a heavily Catholic

859
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,700
country of lots of little
countries that are Catholic.

860
00:55:53,700 --> 00:55:57,400
What's the explanation behind
the reception of the Rancho book

861
00:55:57,500 --> 00:56:03,600
and say, South America as
opposed to Australia, Or other

862
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:08,000
places where you have such a
heavy Catholic Australia would

863
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,600
be a bad example.
Why is it so popular in South

864
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,800
America?
What's going on there?

865
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,600
That we don't know what the hell
do you mean?

866
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:22,200
It's a tough question, you know
because well, who knows, I

867
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:27,400
think, I think we're passion.
Will we have a lot of passion

868
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:32,600
for for, for the things we
believe in and I think the South

869
00:56:32,900 --> 00:56:37,200
Some people has these.
These eager to believe in

870
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:44,800
something greater and and, and
once they got into it, they go

871
00:56:44,900 --> 00:56:48,500
all the way, you know, it's like
they don't hesitate at all.

872
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,800
That's, that's my experience,
you know?

873
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:56,800
And, and, and particularly, in
the, in the, in the, in the

874
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:02,500
arantxa community movement.
I think that it has been a great

875
00:57:02,500 --> 00:57:05,200
job.
Job of some of people, some of

876
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:12,200
the people that are leading the
movement in the in the different

877
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:17,200
countries organization because
we created like a Latin American

878
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,800
Comedy, a South American
community of leaders and we will

879
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:30,300
be we will be in working.
Like I know say like, Police six

880
00:57:30,300 --> 00:57:39,000
years, six years from now.
And and, and will be will be in

881
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:45,700
being very active on helping
each other to understand what is

882
00:57:45,700 --> 00:57:49,700
going on in Colombia.
What is going on in Peru Ecuador

883
00:57:49,700 --> 00:57:55,200
and we all, we all are connected
and that helped a lot of people

884
00:57:55,200 --> 00:58:02,800
to be attracted to most of the
Of the of the ways we trying to

885
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,300
do.
So there's a lot of going on

886
00:58:05,300 --> 00:58:10,500
here because there's a lot of
readers who believes in working

887
00:58:10,500 --> 00:58:16,900
together and and I guess it is
growing but only recently.

888
00:58:16,900 --> 00:58:23,000
Yeah so I don't know how I don't
have that many stunts because

889
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,800
she has a similar perspective.
Yeah.

890
00:58:27,500 --> 00:58:29,500
Yeah.
I agree.

891
00:58:29,500 --> 00:58:34,200
I'm actually from Mexico.
I live in Mexico and I think one

892
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:39,200
of the the big big thing that
happened in the 90s was the

893
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,800
Trojan horse eBooks by kata-kata
Benitez.

894
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,300
I actually read the book in
English.

895
00:58:45,300 --> 00:58:49,500
I mean, although a Mexican I'm a
bit better in English and I had

896
00:58:49,500 --> 00:58:54,000
American education, but
everybody else that I know in

897
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,200
Spanish-speaking.
Got it through the the Trojan

898
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,500
Horse.
Actually some of Of our trustees

899
00:58:59,500 --> 00:59:03,200
and the foundation, like, Victor
Borge, he bred the the Trojan

900
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:07,200
Horse and he came through that.
So I think this like Gabriel

901
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,400
said is reflecting on what's
going to happen with that with a

902
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:15,600
center for Unity and presenting
the Jesus story where people can

903
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:17,600
relate.
This is I mean this is the human

904
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,500
part where you can relate to and
that takes you to the rest of

905
00:59:21,500 --> 00:59:24,000
the range of books.
So I think that's what happened.

906
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,300
I mean, people knew through the
Catholicism of that.

907
00:59:27,300 --> 00:59:30,700
They were brought up in to They
knew Jesus and now they have an

908
00:59:30,700 --> 00:59:36,300
expanded and more accurate,
accurate accurate portrayal of

909
00:59:36,300 --> 00:59:39,000
Jesus.
That really we sounds with them.

910
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,700
So I think that's that's the
key.

911
00:59:42,300 --> 00:59:45,200
Very good.
So thoughts about any closing,

912
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,400
thoughts about your involvement,
what you like to see in the next

913
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,800
year and we can start with
Carrie.

914
00:59:52,300 --> 00:59:55,400
Yes, thank you.
Such a pleasure to be here and

915
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,200
I've really enjoyed your
podcast.

916
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,000
Jim thank you.
Just discovered them really if

917
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,700
you can believe that.
So thank you for all that you're

918
01:00:02,700 --> 01:00:08,300
doing.
So you know, I think that what

919
01:00:08,300 --> 01:00:12,100
we're offering, what we're doing
is going to resonate with with a

920
01:00:12,100 --> 01:00:14,400
lot of folks.
I can just tell you me

921
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:19,000
personally, you know, my family
talking about, you know, young

922
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:24,100
kids and such going to Norfolk
Show non-denominational churches

923
01:00:24,700 --> 01:00:29,100
can be enjoyable and the
fellowship with the ladies there

924
01:00:29,900 --> 01:00:33,700
and the you know, the worship
praise and worship music is

925
01:00:33,700 --> 01:00:36,900
always nice.
So, you know, it is really

926
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,600
enjoyable.
Enjoyable to be able to find

927
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,800
your spirituality and so many
different areas.

928
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:45,300
So maybe people can, you know,
relate to that.

929
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:51,100
And what I'd like to express
with regards to this virtual

930
01:00:51,100 --> 01:00:54,600
production, which We're kind of
like the new buzzwords out there

931
01:00:54,800 --> 01:01:00,800
is seeing is believing so it's
just such a convergence of the

932
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:05,700
live-action and the virtual
reality the virtual wall and the

933
01:01:05,700 --> 01:01:10,300
virtual production, it's so many
efficiencies where we'll be able

934
01:01:10,300 --> 01:01:16,000
to do things and produce in a
much more efficient manner with

935
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:20,500
a lot of different convergence
of thoughts and creatives that

936
01:01:20,500 --> 01:01:25,300
don't have to be physically.
One place with such a wide

937
01:01:25,300 --> 01:01:31,300
variety of backgrounds and sets
the we can change out basically

938
01:01:31,300 --> 01:01:36,400
within minutes and we can go
from 1920s Berlin, you know, to

939
01:01:36,700 --> 01:01:41,800
2022 Anchorage, Alaska to first
century, you know Jerusalem you

940
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,800
know within minutes.
And so that's like the Holodeck

941
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,400
on Star Trek, you know.
Remember the holiday, you know?

942
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,900
Yes computer.
Yes, I want.

943
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,700
Go, 1930.
Here we go.

944
01:01:54,500 --> 01:01:59,100
Exactly.
So the team is really excited,

945
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,700
and what we can say here is, you
know, seeing is believing.

946
01:02:03,700 --> 01:02:05,900
And I think that's really what
we need, right?

947
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:10,900
Yeah, it almost yeah.
It reinforces, the the visuals

948
01:02:10,900 --> 01:02:13,700
however, that works in the mind
and then you feel like you

949
01:02:13,700 --> 01:02:16,700
actually have a memory cohesive
memory.

950
01:02:16,900 --> 01:02:21,600
Rick, any thoughts about again?
I know I asked you this before

951
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:26,800
but Need people, you need more
people, you need will, we can we

952
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,800
see anything now, sort of like a
teaser on what you've come up

953
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:32,900
with so far.
Is there a place we can go and

954
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,200
maybe get a glimpse of each of
these projects and where they're

955
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:40,200
at now?
Yeah, the Jesus made a verse

956
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,900
actually, Gabriel put together
real nice prototype of that.

957
01:02:43,900 --> 01:02:46,200
That's out there.
I think the best way for people

958
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,900
to do that is go through the
website, Jesus metaverse dot org

959
01:02:49,900 --> 01:02:52,900
and you can find links to that
those kind of videos and that

960
01:02:52,900 --> 01:02:56,200
sort of thing.
So, but the Jesus met of are

961
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,600
certainly our project.
That's the most advanced nearing

962
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:00,900
completion.
Okay?

963
01:03:01,300 --> 01:03:06,400
So years ago I did a a I found a
software where I could go back

964
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:11,400
in time and see If a specific
date fell on a specific day and

965
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:16,200
I calculated, I went through the
Jesus papers and I started

966
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,500
saying okay, well, I would look
for something that said Jesus

967
01:03:19,500 --> 01:03:24,700
one here on Sunday May 3rd, you
know, 22, whatever it was.

968
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,400
And every one of them matched up
perfectly to this software that

969
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,100
gives you in the reason I'm
asking this is because in your

970
01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:36,700
process of all these projects
have you yourself, found

971
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,900
nuggets?
A validation.

972
01:03:38,900 --> 01:03:41,900
You know what I mean?
In other words, were you in this

973
01:03:41,900 --> 01:03:44,600
process of putting all these
stories together and these

974
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,000
visuals and ideas, where you
ever for a moment going, wow,

975
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:52,800
this is just so rich in detail
that it in the parts of what

976
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:56,200
you're doing.
Were you able to gleam even more

977
01:03:56,500 --> 01:04:00,700
validation of the Rancho book?
And amazement at the authors who

978
01:04:00,700 --> 01:04:03,600
are able to Midway, ER
commission, how they were able

979
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,700
to get so much right in their in
their narrative.

980
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:08,900
Is that mean anything?
Any of you sir.

981
01:04:08,900 --> 01:04:11,100
I think that's I think what
you're saying there Jim is

982
01:04:11,100 --> 01:04:13,600
exactly what we're trying to do
with the metaverse is help

983
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,400
people reach that you know, I've
been around long enough that

984
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:20,200
those nuggets of verification
came for me, long ago.

985
01:04:20,700 --> 01:04:23,600
No the Urantia book.
One of the things that's that

986
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:28,900
really appeals to me is it's the
only religious texts or

987
01:04:28,900 --> 01:04:32,900
spiritual texts that names dates
and places, you know.

988
01:04:32,900 --> 01:04:35,100
Yeah.
We went through as far as

989
01:04:35,100 --> 01:04:37,500
something we were, you know,
doing personally several years

990
01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:40,900
ago Go and pulled out all the
dates from the ranch ebook

991
01:04:40,900 --> 01:04:43,800
specific dates on this day, such
and such happened.

992
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:48,700
The next day this happened and
there's over 300 specific dates

993
01:04:48,900 --> 01:04:51,200
listed in the Ranchi boat.
And those are the kinds of

994
01:04:51,208 --> 01:04:54,200
things that people can go into
the metaverse and find, you can

995
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,900
find those dates and connect all
the dots and all that kind of

996
01:04:56,900 --> 01:04:58,500
stuff.
So, go ahead, Karen.

997
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,100
Well, I was just going to say
it's just been exciting for me

998
01:05:01,100 --> 01:05:04,700
personally to see all these
seemingly.

999
01:05:04,700 --> 01:05:07,700
Coincidences just popping and
happening.

1000
01:05:08,500 --> 01:05:14,500
As I help with this project, I
have read a lot of Squire Rush

1001
01:05:14,500 --> 01:05:19,100
Nails books over the years on
the meaning of coincidences and

1002
01:05:19,100 --> 01:05:23,900
he has social media and such
he's a television producer that

1003
01:05:23,900 --> 01:05:28,400
produced you know some
children's educational

1004
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,000
programming.
Schoolhouse Rock back in the oh

1005
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,000
yeah ladies are.
So when only public television

1006
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,300
at that point was really doing
educational TV and he It

1007
01:05:38,300 --> 01:05:42,600
compiles, all these little
stories back to stories, telling

1008
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:48,100
the story of all these seemingly
coincidences that people around

1009
01:05:48,100 --> 01:05:53,100
the world will will swear that
it's the divine intervention or

1010
01:05:53,100 --> 01:05:55,400
Divine help or the angels
helping that they, you know,

1011
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,700
it's kind of something medical.
They never go back in and check

1012
01:05:58,700 --> 01:06:02,200
on this and they went and
discovered, you know something.

1013
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:07,700
So I've read and enjoyed their
delightful of all the stimuli

1014
01:06:07,900 --> 01:06:10,500
Incidences.
So, for me, personally, we don't

1015
01:06:10,500 --> 01:06:15,700
have the time now, but it's been
very exciting to feel that I've

1016
01:06:15,700 --> 01:06:21,000
been on the right path.
As I have experienced some major

1017
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:26,800
coincidences in the process of
working with this team and I

1018
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:31,200
look forward to more and, you
know, I think that's going to be

1019
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,100
a lot of fun as we continue
along.

1020
01:06:33,100 --> 01:06:37,700
We have a lot of things to keep
us busy have teams of people.

1021
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,200
People that are ready and
looking for work and looking at

1022
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:45,400
how is any of this been impeded
by covid and the current sort of

1023
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,700
political tension that's going
on in the world because we're

1024
01:06:48,700 --> 01:06:50,700
all in our different parts of
the world.

1025
01:06:50,700 --> 01:06:54,100
Trying to coalesce.
It has helped, I think covid has

1026
01:06:54,108 --> 01:06:56,600
helped.
We're gonna make lemonade from

1027
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:57,800
Lance right?
That's right.

1028
01:06:58,100 --> 01:07:02,200
Well, you're we're learning how
to work together with teams

1029
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:06,100
around the world and work in a
efficient manner.

1030
01:07:06,100 --> 01:07:10,000
And You know, we can talk for a
long time about that, but I

1031
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,900
think that in those regards, I
think it's helped the process in

1032
01:07:13,900 --> 01:07:16,800
the team.
Well, I want to thank everybody,

1033
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:21,100
Gabriel, and of course, Carrie
and Stephen, and Rick and

1034
01:07:21,100 --> 01:07:23,700
Santiago and anybody I missed,
thank you.

1035
01:07:23,700 --> 01:07:27,100
It's been an honor to be here
and I want to help I like this

1036
01:07:27,100 --> 01:07:30,000
because I wasn't sure it was.
First time I've had more than

1037
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:34,300
one person on it, the program.
So it worked out nicely.

1038
01:07:34,700 --> 01:07:38,200
I could go on forever.
And I want to keep track of this

1039
01:07:38,900 --> 01:07:42,500
project, so keep me informed.
And then I can relay that

1040
01:07:42,500 --> 01:07:45,000
information and Rick, any of you
that want to come on.

1041
01:07:45,500 --> 01:07:47,100
And share any of your own
experiences.

1042
01:07:47,100 --> 01:07:50,300
You have an open invitation and
I hope that you'll take me up on

1043
01:07:50,300 --> 01:07:52,300
it.
We're trying to build something

1044
01:07:52,300 --> 01:07:54,500
here.
I'm shocked that we're not

1045
01:07:54,500 --> 01:07:57,700
farther along in terms of
awareness of the Rancho book but

1046
01:07:57,700 --> 01:08:01,600
I'm not dismayed because I know
how rich and complex the book is

1047
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,300
and it takes a commitment.
You've got to be willing like I

1048
01:08:05,308 --> 01:08:08,700
think one of you said you can
hand the book to somebody but

1049
01:08:08,700 --> 01:08:11,300
they got to want to read it.
And they've got to be open to

1050
01:08:11,300 --> 01:08:14,000
it, and they've gotta have a
hunger for something.

1051
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,800
And I tried to tell that to my
Kids in my people that I love in

1052
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:20,200
my life and they just you know,
I just I'm more amazed that they

1053
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,399
don't want to know anyway, I
wanted to just thank all of you

1054
01:08:23,399 --> 01:08:26,000
for that and again I want to
give out a couple of pieces of

1055
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,100
information.
Call ears a phone number for

1056
01:08:29,100 --> 01:08:31,800
you.
This is seven six, five three

1057
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:36,399
six six seven two zero three
that's Rick's number Rick.

1058
01:08:36,899 --> 01:08:40,600
If you want to help call Rick
he'll help you and then you can

1059
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,200
be a part of this project.
Have you done it?

1060
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,600
GoFundMe kind of a thing?
Yeah.

1061
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,399
Where people can.
On and donate on the website.

1062
01:08:47,399 --> 01:08:51,399
There, there's a donate credit
cards and there's the address

1063
01:08:51,399 --> 01:08:56,100
there to send a check.
We can accept donations in any,

1064
01:08:56,300 --> 01:09:00,399
any form, any any place in the
world and it's Jesus metaverse

1065
01:09:00,700 --> 01:09:03,000
dot-org.
Jesus metaverse dot-org.

1066
01:09:03,100 --> 01:09:05,500
I hope you found our time with
these wonderful people here on

1067
01:09:05,500 --> 01:09:09,100
the Rancher Radio podcast
absolutely enthralling and

1068
01:09:09,100 --> 01:09:13,700
thanks again to Gabriel 9 Berg
Santiago Neyland carry blash.

1069
01:09:13,700 --> 01:09:17,600
Steve marble Louis Morales.
And of course, Rick Lyon for

1070
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,300
helping to put this interview
together.

1071
01:09:19,700 --> 01:09:23,500
No doubt, it gives me, great joy
to see inside this wonderful

1072
01:09:23,500 --> 01:09:25,700
project from those who are
actually involved.

1073
01:09:25,700 --> 01:09:29,399
And I can't wait to see how each
of these projects come together.

1074
01:09:29,700 --> 01:09:32,300
And what transformative effect,
they will have in bringing

1075
01:09:32,300 --> 01:09:36,300
people on this planet closer to
God through the examination of

1076
01:09:36,300 --> 01:09:39,100
his son.
And again, for more information

1077
01:09:39,100 --> 01:09:43,300
center for Unity dot-org.
Rick is also happy to answer any

1078
01:09:43,300 --> 01:09:48,600
questions and his number is 7.
X5 3667 203.

1079
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,000
Again, that number is seven.
Six, five, three, six, six,

1080
01:09:52,300 --> 01:09:56,200
seven, two zero, three.
Such a great experience and I

1081
01:09:56,208 --> 01:09:59,900
thank you for stopping by this
edition of the Urantia Radio

1082
01:09:59,900 --> 01:10:00,700
podcast.