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Oct. 27, 2022

Making Sense Of Evil With Joshua Wilson

Making Sense Of Evil With Joshua Wilson
Making Sense Of Evil With Joshua Wilson
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Making Sense Of Evil With Joshua Wilson

While we do focus on the historical aspect of evil (from the UB perspective), there are a great number of contemporary issues we discuss with my guest Joshua Wilson, a long time student of the Urantia Book teachings, an author, educator, musical artist and counselor.

Including is an in-depth discussion on the luciferian doctrines impacting society today.

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So, welcome to this edition of
the Rancher.

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Radio podcast were very excited
to bring back brother.

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Joshua Wilson.
And he offers incredible insight

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as to not only the conditions
that we find ourselves in today

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and this very challenging World.
There is evil rampant in the

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world.
And along the way, we'll talk

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about some other fascinating
subjects that I know you're

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going to enjoy.
And so now I'm into what I, what

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I wanted to talk about today,
mainly if I can find it is the

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I'm lack of Justice from paper
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happen.
So it opens like this Joshua and

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then we can just kind of talked
about it.

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He says the moral will creatures
of the evolutionary worlds are

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always bothered with the
unthinking question as to why

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the all-wise creators permit
evil and sin.

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And I know I have people who
don't believe in God because of

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that, I know that they say.
Well, if there's a God, why does

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all this bad stuff happen?
Right, I'm sure.

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You know that too.
Right.

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And then the writer writes paper
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He says, they fail to comprehend
that both are inevitable.

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If the creature is to be truly
free, their Free Will of

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evolving, man.
Or Exquisite Angel, is not a

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mere philosophic concept.
A symbolic ideal man's ability

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to choose, good or evil is a
universe reality.

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This Liberty is chosen for
oneself and it's an endowment of

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the Supreme rulers and they will
not permit any Being or group of

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beings to deprive a single
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of this divinely.
Bestowed Liberty.

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So, the Constitution is, right?
We were endowed by our creator,

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that's not just some
philosophical idea, and that's

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what I did and Liberty.
Yeah, with, with personal

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Liberty, and it's because it's
the only way that God knows for

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sure what your intentions are.
And so, if you believe in God,

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and that's where you get your Or
Liberty from and you can't

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believe in government that gives
you your Liberty.

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But that's what government wants
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Liberty comes from them?
Because they don't believe in

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God, petition says, we are
endowed by the Creator.

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Well, they got lucky because it
happens to be true according to

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the Rancho book and so free will
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That's the problem.
That's so this this quote that

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you just read Jim.
It says that I'm thinking

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Thinking, yeah, they bring up
this question.

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Why does this happen?
Or how does this happen?

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Because they haven't thought it
through now, some people like

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the author Byron bullets us?
Yes, who wrote your evolving

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Soul?
He and I have been talking over

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the years.
We've been good friends for

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years and he's I don't want to
speak too soon because he's just

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about ready to release a new
book, the deals need this very

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topic.
Yeah, you know, this choice is

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choosing And what's God's
activity in the midst of this

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choice and the troubles and
travails.

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So some people are thinking like
like Byron and we appreciate him

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that because he's going to give
us a theological viewpoint on

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the ranch.
A book is a great Revelation to

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us to sort out these
difficulties.

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But yeah you're right.
It's a big question and that's

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why a lot of people said well I
just can't believe in a god

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anymore.
Anyhow, if things like this, can

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go on, but they need to think it
through and let their heart

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speak to their mind.
Here's what Byron boletos wrote

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in his upcoming book, which I
have a an advance copy of.

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Okay, you ready?
I knew you were going to bring

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this up so I was lucky.
I had it at my fingertips.

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He writes again, love must be
freely given to be genuine.

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Thus, the possibility of
choosing hate is an

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indispensable condition of
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this scenario.
It is crucial to understand that

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God is only responsible for the
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And that creatures alone are to
blame for the actualizing of

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evil.
Yeah, and that's something and

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you're here.
Thank you, you know, touche,

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thank you Byron.
So you know, I'm right with you

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there because that that is the
challenges, like we have a

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tendency to want to blame
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behavior.
Oh, it must be Lucifer.

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It must be Satan.
And I'm not saying that these

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guys aren't bad.
Actors they are.

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But yeah, according to our
Angela.

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What is clear on this?
And I've had share this with a

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Christians and people I've
worked with throughout Years in

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various Ministries and tell them
that would people commit the

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wrong kind of actions and deeds.
You read your book says that

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generally, these are are Mortals
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inherent Tendencies not because
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devils and demons.
As I just had to tell the

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straight out to people.
When they would come up with the

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idea, basically like that old
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The devil made me do it.
You know, so the like that now

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at this is your own Tennessee's.
However, we're in an environment

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that's become almost like
immersed over hundreds of

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thousands of years in some
really bad Concepts in this.

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What we're trying to dig
ourselves out and at some point

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I do want to throw a couple.
Quotes at you about that subject

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because Liberty is is if I can
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find it here, but it basically
says that you have Liberty to

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make a decision, but that
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you're free to make any
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You want to, you have an
obligation also, a cosmological

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obligation to others, you know?
And this is where people get

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into trouble is like, for
example, You know, people with

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good intentions make mess things
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You know, I'm sure that Lucifer
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everybody could just do whatever
they want to do and not give any

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kind of consideration to any
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I mean, people love freedom, the
spirit Liberties man, but we can

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also inflict great harm on
people when we make choices.

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You know, for example if a child
comes to you and says I think

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I'm a boy and it's a girl and
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You may think that you're doing
something good for that child

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but what you might not
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be making a decision that could
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so you have to be the adult in
the room and say, okay, what is

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the possibility that my child
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How would they know?
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turn this into a discussion
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of a political, but it's an
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Sample of Liberty gone too far.
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swings over to the site of what
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opposed to self-transcendence,
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So what?
Where is the self-assertion and

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false Liberty as compared to
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Well, net example, you just gave
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starting to assert some Or
ten-year-old and say, you know

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I'm gonna go with.
Well I'm just going to choose my

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gender now and then the adult in
the room is also having a kind

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of self assertion by saying,
well I'm going to go ahead and

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is assert what I think think is
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latitude to allow this child to
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Okay.
Well actually this is a form of

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child abuse.
We have Counselors in my own

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family, my own daughters who
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sexual problems and addictions.
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conversation that we've had over
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recognize it.
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to guide that child in the early
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like they're going down a
hallway and there's doors on the

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right and there's doors on the
left and this responsibility of

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the Dalton their parent and the
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Shut until that child is far
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can think like an adult as they
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really isn't developed in the
mail until they're about 25.

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Literally not developed.
I'm talking about the wiring of

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the brain.
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No, I think you're absolutely
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And and to me this whole this
not just one movement but it's a

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lot of ideologies that are all
being embraced and and they

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represent to me crisis in the
way that we view life you know.

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Because again if you are did to
have this notion that your, your

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freedom, Is more important than
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Freedom is bound to cause
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And that's another interesting
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Why does God allow things to
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Well, we're a family.
And in any family, you have some

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kids that do great in some kids
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work together in that family,
because if one of your kids does

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great, you're going to benefit
But one of your kids making a

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mistake, what you don't, you
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That wouldn't be fair because it
doesn't motivate you to want to

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make sure that that child is
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what you were saying.
Make sure that they're taught to

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Rick to make the right
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And that's why I think we're
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We have one part of the world
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is the way to go and screw free.
Will we just need to manage the

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for the greater good.
And to hell with Liberty, then

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you have another part of the
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Would we want all of our
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almost suicidal There's no clear
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between both is that God isn't
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That's what I've been arguing
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People is the reason we're
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today is because God is not in
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That is not part of the
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on a local level.
When you talk about homelessness

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drug addiction, any kind of
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that that person is lost and
they don't have a clear vision

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of what their life is about.
And to me The Rancher book,

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clearly states were all in this
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into existence, the Supreme
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And we get to be a part of that
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We are co-creators and that
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on my head is made this life a
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Oh, yeah.
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pushback.
Now, thankfully and this is one

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of the ideas of letting evil
just to have free course, which

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was the universe mother's
instruction not to Cure or to

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cover up the ugly visit judge of
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And this is all the way up into
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The, the advice for our universe
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because you have to see a soon
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So that this could be uprooted
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been deceived and do not have
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And then we make a space and an
opening for God to come into our

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lives.
Coming to our families, and

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bring love, and mercy.
And to our families, I'd like to

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read to you something that's out
of the the introduction to a

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book called Rules for Radicals
by Saul Alinsky and that the one

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that has all that controversy
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that was her thesis and you
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I wasn't You brought it up?
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That was she did her thesis on
that, but this is a shocker, I

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have a copy of the book, and I
think he to Lucifer, doesn't he?

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Yeah, I've got it right here.
So I take it to study group.

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So I says guys, you know, this
is how deep and how close we

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have come to this.
I'm going to go ahead and read

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it to you.
This is Saul alinsky's

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acknowledgement at the front of
the book and he says from all of

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our Legends mythology, G and
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The first radical known to man
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Establishment and did it.
So effectively that he at least

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one his own kingdom Lucifer, You
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That's, that's the radical.
That's the rebel.

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That's the Revolutionary.
Recognize the original one,

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which people like, this is
soulless key, sixth book, and

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his final book, and it became
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And so it was taken up as a
means, this is how we can do.

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The energy organizing.
This is how we can rally people

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around the cause that we have
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about how to do that.
So this is mortifying and

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conquers one of them to, you
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of Jordan Peterson is indeed, I
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between groups has far less than
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group which is why Why in
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progressive that are beautiful
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of each group.
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other and Their own, which is
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was somebody else that just got
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something, you did 30 years ago
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Some highfalutin, super
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cancellation.
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the soup du jour these days.
This is the way you can do it.

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Which I feel like you're a part
of you, give another, I am your

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point, the god Viewpoint and I
really love it.

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Appreciate it that we can and
all the discussions that you've

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had recently with people, I just
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What are you up to these days?
What are you doing?

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What are you involved with?
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conversation with the young man
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needed some encouragement the
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somebody.
Else tonight?

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I'm getting together with a
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talk about our camp that we put
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F.
Yesterday I was in discussions

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with an artist who's doing a
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written called van and amadon is
Garden.

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No way.
Really tell me about its I've

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been working on it for a while.
65,000 words, it's pretty much

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in the can.
It's under Beta reading right

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now, which is where readers
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through a book and give you
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and on and, but it's something
every day, uplifting and then a

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nonfiction and fiction, a little
above, okay?

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This is a wedding that Madonna's
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historical fiction.
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So I write the story line and
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between, but it's based on
historical occurrences as we

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know them.
From the ranch a book The go

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back five hundred thousand
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Yeah lenihan history.
Yeah yeah.

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The lives of the van and a hero
of the no kidding.

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That was a great movie.
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that's what is for this?
So we can take the story into a

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book move it into storyboards
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movie because that would be the
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First thing is to get the story
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So those are some of the things
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Well, would you say earlier, you
wake up every morning, what am I

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going to do to further along the
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What, what have I done?
What have you done for the

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Revelation to that enough?
Not enough really, seriously the

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kids.
It's just that we do something.

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We move things along.
Yeah, and more.

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So also although I'd love
everybody in my life, to read

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the Rancher book.
I know that's not going to

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happen, but that doesn't mean, I
can't try to use the principles

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and when people need the
information or need an idea or

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an Insight, I can give it to
him, you know, right?

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That's the key.
You know, in my working

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relationship, I still think one
of my favorite passages and

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maybe we should do a subject on
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Course of religion, that Jesus
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155 and he says, not all
callings are religious, some are

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secular, but to a man who has
gotten his life, everything is

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spiritual and that's right.
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And that's such a wonderful
kernel of Truth wherever you are

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in your life, you know?
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You can you can be that
ambassador of the spiritual

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Kingdom and that just means that
your Universal Citizen and

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you're you.
You're looking at the Eternal,

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you know, reality is not just
the time consumed constrained

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realities of oh I gotta pay my
mortgage and you know my

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girlfriend gonna want to see me
tonight all that stuff the will

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of God can be done in any
arthelene, a occupation and

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people are listening and I get
people writing me and that have

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heard me on this broadcast with
you Jim because I always give

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out my email address Musical.
At Cox dotnet and Cox dot now.

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I mean, I got a message from a
fellow in prison from our last

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broadcast and we've been in
correspondence together and it

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goes on, so whatever the
occupation or no occupation, in

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that case because of prison
constraints, it doesn't matter.

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The will of God can be done
there and this is proven To me

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over and over again.
And I just love communicating

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and working with people.
And right, it's not the ratchet

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book, per se that we're sharing,
we're sharing the good news, the

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gospel love Mercy.
It could be in the supermarket

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line and a woman ahead of of you
might be just looking through or

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anything at all.
I'm parched trying to find a

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quarter or a dime or a nickel
and you just hand over ten

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dollars.
It's a look.

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I'll cover it and those ripples
just go out.

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It could be anything like like
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And it may not mean like here I
have your answer book right?

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You know it could be something
that they just need right at

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that moment at that moment and
that just makes them reflect and

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get their their faith restored
that not all human beings are

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jerks, you know, which sometimes
we need reminders because we see

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a jerk Parade on TV everyday
jerk or a, that's good.

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Anyway, I had a friend of mine,
I want to get is something that

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we probably should get to.
Because it's something that I

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have not talked about, we talked
about Lucifer, we talked about

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Satan and the historical record
of the Year.

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Ancha presentation is that they
are both imprisoned on the

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Father's World, which is in
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It's why the satellite World
circulates around and they're

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like rizu and ascenders can go
visit them.

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And there's probably a sign that
says, please don't feed the

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animals.
There's Warning.

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I hope I'm, you know, but but
there Remains The Mystery of

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caligastia.
Yes.

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Okay, so Lucifer was interned
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resurrection and Lucifer.
I do research with various

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readers and he's at least five
billion years old, Andre

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probably much much more.
But if because it's hard to

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tell, Yeah, that's what we're
actually going into existence or

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salvington.
Yeah, it's a time when the

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system capitals architectural,
worlds were built and we can

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extrapolate somewhere between
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but he's really old.
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So he was, he was interned about
the time of Jesus Ascension,

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resurrection, and Ascension from
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Satan was interned in the on to
the same prison world around

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1930.
And there's evidence of

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satanists that we're looking
for, Satan's, at periodic visit

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every 20 years, or so.
And all of a sudden he quit

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showing up, people like Aleister
Crowley and individuals that

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were, were on that kind of a
plane.

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Well, but that's over.
He's got, but then we get to

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this devilish personality known
as caligastia who was given free

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rein to, to exercise.
His nefarious programs and he is

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still free on Earth.
And so it's something we have to

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deal with but the book says that
he cannot approach the faith

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Sons and Daughters of God
because faith is an effective

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shield and the presence of the
thought adjusters is effective.

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But my question is, what about
those?

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The do want to be cursed with
his nefarious.

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Presents as we go up the pyramid
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And we keep moving up
governments, heads of

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governments World economic
forum, and then we keep moving

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up, Tighter and Tighter up at
the top of the pyramid.

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And then the people disappear,
we don't know who they are.

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We don't who we don't know their
names, but the other ones that

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are pulling the strings and
those are the ones that probably

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still do meet.
Emily with caligastia and they

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make plans, they work out
projects that they would like to

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implement on the face of the
Earth and various top rulers

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are.
Then given a rewards for being

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in League with the devil as we
might say as so what we're

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hoping for on Earth is for that
type of activity to end in all

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Sympathy for the Devil and for
the luciferian programs were set

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in place.
Time ago to eventually

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evaporate.
So that's that's kind of what's

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happening with that Jim.
And I mean okay well I have a

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couple questions.
So number one is, if you had

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anybody ever admit to you that
they have done that or even

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somebody who maybe who has
admitted to some someone you

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know that you trust that there
is that sort of relationship

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going on with caligastia because
I've never heard of that.

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Yeah the people that I come in
contact with If you come in

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contact with on a day-to-day
basis, some are weak and

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dissolute morals, who Mortals.
Who feel like their life is

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taken over by evil.
And they may even be involved in

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Satanic rituals or satanic
Satanic ritual abuse and things

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like this.
But these people, they're not.

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No, I agree.
I don't think they're actually

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in contact with.
Star Chambers somewhere and

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Bulgaria, you know, with thunder
and lightning.

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And Here Comes The Apparition
of, you know, caligastia good

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job my children.
Now, I don't think that's going

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on now.
It's not like in the movie.

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This is something that's that
happens in visibly on very high

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levels, but we feel the impact
of it, as it comes down into our

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institutions.
What's that?

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Fortunately is what I call,
institutionalized evil, what is

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it?
To get caligastia wants to prove

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that Lucifer was right.
That the whole the whole plan is

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or does he want Power?
Because you want to feel like

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he's got purpose in his life,
being the prince, the default on

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Prince of Urantia.
What's his motivation?

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Yeah, well he's going to kill
goes into iniquity, it's a

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mystery.
That's a very, very potent

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question but it's a mystery.
What motivates, what could

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possibly motivate?
Elevate an individual like that.

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But your answer book says that
the iniquitous person they move

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from error to evil, then they
get the willful sin and then

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repeated Santa becomes
iniquitous and that type of

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individual, it's very unlikely
that they will turn back because

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they've gone so far in
self-assertion that they just

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can't find a way to turn back
the word last act that Jesus did

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before he left.
Tarth you can picture, he's on

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Mount Hermon, it's the day of
his Ascension.

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He says goodbye to his Apostles
and as he's, if you can imagine

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it rising from the earth.
The last thing he does is he one

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more time, he says, the
caligastia and his associate

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daligastia one more time.
I'm offering you Mercy.

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Just even at this last moment,
these last seconds.

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If you want to take it I'll
restore you.

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I'll put you back into universe
service, you know, at and then

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he continued on his way.
It's interesting that the book

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says that was the last thing
that he did on Earth was to

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offer them mercy and still, it
wasn't accepted laughter.

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So, yeah, that's a potent
question.

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What goes on in their mind?
It's so Just like that he goes

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into iniquity.
Just has to keep going their way

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and have to, I guess, prove to
themselves or those around them,

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that this is that their
doctrines false doctrines of

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Liberty are the way to go.
And this was sweeping, I mean,

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we had seven during the Lucifer
Rebellion.

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There were 700,000 approximately
material sons and daughters,

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like our Adams and Eve's.
And we think of our precious,

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Adam and Eve, come to our
planet.

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00:28:19,300 --> 00:28:22,500
And we love and For their
contribution and their watch

446
00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:24,500
care over us.
Just think that there are

447
00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:31,700
700,000 of those beings in our
system were LED astray.

448
00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:34,300
I mean, this was serious.
This is real.

449
00:28:34,300 --> 00:28:38,200
This was a real war in heaven
when Wars are fought on earth

450
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:43,400
like in Iraq or or in Ukraine,
this for four bodies and

451
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,200
physical eyes.
But the war in heaven was for

452
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:52,600
life eternal, and these false
Liberty doctrines did not only

453
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,300
affect the Earth, they were
affecting the Mansion worlds and

454
00:28:57,300 --> 00:29:01,000
then the ranch book goes on to
say and to their Everlasting

455
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:06,700
shame, they didn't even exempt,
the probationary nurseries,

456
00:29:06,700 --> 00:29:12,200
where these 10 and 12, and 14
year olds that were growing up

457
00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:15,600
and trying to preach to them
these false Dawkins, I mean,

458
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:20,100
this was serious, a lot of
damage was done and so that

459
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,800
Rebellion on those levels has
been terminated.

460
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:27,600
But what we have is the
aftershocks that are going on on

461
00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:33,200
Earth, in our institutions of
big, Agriculture and energy

462
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:42,000
policy, the unitec and social
media attention to me.

463
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,500
And I want to jump in here.
You in the original plan of

464
00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:50,100
Dalmatia.
Caligastia was to set up these

465
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,000
Divisions as you were just
mentioning.

466
00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:57,000
And so you had one member of the
no tights.

467
00:29:57,100 --> 00:30:01,200
Well, we know them now is no
died, but they were, they were

468
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:06,800
to be a charge of teaching, man.
Early, man, how to grow, you

469
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,300
know, go from being a hunter,
who heard her marriage, you know

470
00:30:10,300 --> 00:30:14,200
how to coexist with a mate,
raise children, all these plans

471
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:18,200
were in process for 200,000
years and then the Lucifer

472
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,000
Rebellion occurs Asia says,
we're going to do things our way

473
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,700
we're in charge now and so you
think that he is still in charge

474
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:31,000
of those operations.
And some influential way where

475
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,400
this is why we have people like
Bill Gates who wants everybody

476
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,900
to eat insects and they want to
control energy.

477
00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:41,900
Do you think that the caligastia
or Dow daligastia has influence

478
00:30:41,900 --> 00:30:45,700
over these power centers?
Right now, these are, these are

479
00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:49,500
the if you're going to try to
run a plan, And even if you

480
00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:52,700
didn't know anything about the
ranch book or, but if you

481
00:30:52,700 --> 00:30:57,800
understood psychology and
anthropology and government, you

482
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:02,600
would come up with the same list
of ten areas that need to have

483
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,300
control.
And so in the mucky-mucks get

484
00:31:05,300 --> 00:31:08,700
together at their forums.
Yeah, annually.

485
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:11,700
These are the kind of areas that
they still there talking about

486
00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:14,500
weird stuff if you're talking
about the world economic Forum

487
00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:18,500
with Klaus Schwab, and that
whole crowd the Davos proud,

488
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,800
These are people who they want a
social engineer, the hell out of

489
00:31:21,808 --> 00:31:25,600
this world, right?
So this social engineering, just

490
00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:29,600
naturally falls into these areas
and these are the areas that

491
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:34,700
caligastia setup.
You had 100 corporeal staff

492
00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:38,300
members, you had 10 people in
each of the 10 councils.

493
00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:43,600
And this was how they were going
to reshape the entire world

494
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,500
population.
And when, when Dalmatia fell,

495
00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:56,800
then The van reconstituted, the
same 10 areas of concern and so

496
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,900
it doesn't matter if it was
caligastia or if it was van or

497
00:31:59,900 --> 00:32:03,000
if it was the good guys.
Or if it was the bad guys, these

498
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,200
are just the basic 10 areas so
he set up the Council on food

499
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,800
and material welfare.
Well, that's big act.

500
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:18,500
Second, he said up, advisors of
regarding animal domestication.

501
00:32:18,700 --> 00:32:24,700
Shannon utilization, that's more
about agriculture and then the

502
00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:29,000
faculty on dissemination and
conservation of knowledge.

503
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,500
Well, that's the education and
the dumbing down the woke

504
00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:35,600
universities, big Tech and
social media.

505
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:39,400
The next was the commission on
industry and trade.

506
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,200
Well, this is like you know when
these people get together at

507
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,100
these forums control of business
operations and banking.

508
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,600
Next he set up the College of
revealed religion, well that has

509
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,500
to do with all the attempts that
are going on today to subvert

510
00:32:56,500 --> 00:33:01,000
religious institutions, then he
set up the Guardians of health

511
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,100
and life.
Well, that's big Pharma medical

512
00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:08,600
associations.
And then next, the planetary

513
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,800
Council and Art and Science,
that's Corruption of

514
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,800
entertainment, Art and Science
research, and then the governors

515
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,100
of advanced tribal relations.
That's international relations,

516
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:23,900
race relations, United Nations
and so forth.

517
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,200
So continuing what you were
saying.

518
00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:36,000
So the concept here is that it
wouldn't be hard for a

519
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:41,400
personality like a caligastia to
assert his influence over these

520
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,200
areas that you've been talking
about especially now since the

521
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,400
world is interconnected in such
a way where it would actually be

522
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,900
easier for caligastia to
manipulate the outcomes if he so

523
00:33:52,900 --> 00:33:55,300
wished to do so.
And are you asserting that?

524
00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:59,200
You think he is doing that and
Ultimately, maybe the devil has

525
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:03,300
more influence than we'd like to
believe what we put it this way.

526
00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:07,500
If kalyug asked you were to
disappear today and was to be

527
00:34:07,500 --> 00:34:13,100
interned, we would still be
dealing with the aftershocks of

528
00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:15,400
what has happened in our
institutions.

529
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:21,500
So, whether without personality,
like caligastia pushing these

530
00:34:21,500 --> 00:34:26,000
things forward, it takes time.
And this is where the book talks

531
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:31,199
about sympathy If we wonder why
it's taking so long for things

532
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:35,000
to get straightened out on our
world is because it's like the

533
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,199
Rolling Stones song Sympathy for
the Devil, you know, as long as

534
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:43,800
they're the the adjudication and
check Thurston has written a

535
00:34:43,808 --> 00:34:47,400
great paper on that.
Anybody that wants a copy of

536
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:52,300
the, the timeline of Lucifer
Rebellion can write me and I'll

537
00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:55,699
send them his paper.
I'll send things that I've

538
00:34:55,699 --> 00:34:58,100
written Musical.
Start net.

539
00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:01,400
You can write me any time.
So point is just to answer your

540
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:06,600
question, Jim, yes, I do think
that caligastia meets

541
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,400
periodically with people in the
other upper echelons and kind of

542
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:16,900
gives them instructions and
special Insight on how they can

543
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:23,500
be more effective at Prosecuting
is nefarious designs.

544
00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:26,500
So, that's a quote from the
Rancho Book, quote.

545
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,100
Then just the various designs
interesting quote.

546
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,000
So what does that mean?
Because prosecutors this to try

547
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,300
to put into action, his
nefarious design will, I just

548
00:35:37,300 --> 00:35:40,700
described the design?
That's the design is to

549
00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:45,800
infiltrate all the institutions
they're on Earth and so, yes, I

550
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,100
do think it's happening.
But as I said, even if he was

551
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:54,200
gone today, it would take a long
time for this to get expunged in

552
00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:57,300
from the minds of those that run
Academia.

553
00:35:57,500 --> 00:36:02,500
The University's governments, a
big corporations and so on and

554
00:36:02,500 --> 00:36:05,600
so forth.
And this is happening in all the

555
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:11,500
other thirty-six worlds that
came under the Rebellion, all of

556
00:36:11,500 --> 00:36:14,900
them.
And us total of 37 world's have

557
00:36:14,900 --> 00:36:20,000
to reach a point where all of
the inhabitants in generations

558
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,600
of the people on these planets,
finally lose any sympathy.

559
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:29,700
Not only for the personalities.
He's in turned or otherwise but

560
00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:34,100
also for their Concepts that
they've promulgated so many

561
00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:35,800
hundreds of thousands of years
ago.

562
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,700
But the repercussions continue
like ripples or waves to go

563
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:43,800
through our society now,
individuals such as yourself and

564
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,600
myself.
We've already done that saying

565
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,000
now I'm I'm not going that
route.

566
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,400
I'm not anything that ties me up
with those Concepts.

567
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,300
I'm running not walking in the
office.

568
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,800
A direction and we should
clarify because what we're

569
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,100
talking about here, remembering
I said, God is no longer in the

570
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:05,200
room.
That's what that's what

571
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,900
caligastia wants.
He wants us to not have God in

572
00:37:08,900 --> 00:37:13,500
the room, he wants to prove in
my opinion that a Godless

573
00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:19,000
reality is just as valid as a
god filled reality, because in

574
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,700
his mind, God doesn't exist.
It's an illusion.

575
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,000
That's what is that?
Something that the first point

576
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,600
of the looser Manifesto is that
At the heavenly father does not

577
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,200
exist.
I mean, goodness gracious.

578
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,300
What a way to start out, you
know, with his Manifesto and

579
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,000
from a, from a person who's 5
million years old, Golian

580
00:37:43,300 --> 00:37:46,700
billion, you know, I've only
around 60 years and I think I

581
00:37:46,700 --> 00:37:48,800
kind of figured it out, but you
know what?

582
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,500
I also have plenty of time to
mess up, too.

583
00:37:51,500 --> 00:37:55,700
So yeah.
Take heed, take heed so, anyway,

584
00:37:55,700 --> 00:37:58,900
it's so great.
They have this conversation with

585
00:37:58,900 --> 00:38:00,700
you and I know we'll have more
of them.

586
00:38:02,300 --> 00:38:05,700
I think there's enough in this
but we've talked about to give

587
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:09,500
people some food for thought
until the next time you know,

588
00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:13,900
right?
So thank you, Joshua Wilson, a

589
00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:18,800
great musician author is there
anything you can't do my final

590
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,300
question?
Do you cook?

591
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,900
I'm trying to make it as hard as
possible to enter any into the

592
00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:27,300
Realms of sin.
I set up a roadblock.

593
00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:31,400
From myself all along the way.
I hope that I could say that

594
00:38:31,700 --> 00:38:35,400
that would be my life's goal is
to avoid that, but yeah, there's

595
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,600
a lot of things that there's a
benefit to being kind of a

596
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,100
Renaissance person because we
want to relate to as many people

597
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:45,800
as possible.
And so that's kind of my goal.

598
00:38:45,900 --> 00:38:49,800
I like the connector.
Yeah, same here.

599
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:54,000
I feel the same way.
I'm a tool and God's tool box.

600
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,700
Put me to work anyway.
Until next time Josh, Joshua

601
00:38:57,700 --> 00:38:59,400
Wilson.
Thank you for joining me on the

602
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,700
ranch Radio podcast.
What do you think of the new

603
00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:05,100
logo there?
Okay I like the new logo because

604
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:08,100
it's got those three it looks
like that's free semicircles

605
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:11,400
like like clouds sort of and
it's in a blue and a white.

606
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,700
That's right and it made me
think of the Trinity and The

607
00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:19,000
Trinity Unity of God.
And I love the new logo.

608
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,500
I love the way the program is
going and how on these

609
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,300
communications with Center for
Unity project.

610
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:31,100
So many new people that you've
pulled in from all around the

611
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:36,000
world that are really doing some
things in a big way for the

612
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:41,100
Revelation death and I'm just
excited about how your you're

613
00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:43,800
bringing these people together.
I want to share I want to get as

614
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,600
many people that are hungry for
the truth listening because we

615
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:52,400
can we can welcome them in and
share what we have what we know

616
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,500
and then they can if it helps
them get through this life, it's

617
00:39:56,500 --> 00:39:59,200
not easy to.
To get through this is I call

618
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,400
this the South Central Los
Angeles of the universe.

619
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,300
You know if you can make it you
can make it in W.

620
00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:08,700
You can make it anywhere and I
came from W.

621
00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:13,300
So and I lived in that area and
it and oh my your answer is a

622
00:40:13,900 --> 00:40:17,500
bad neighborhood.
It's also where I hear that

623
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:22,400
Angels really volunteer and big
numbers to come here because of

624
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,300
the lessons, they're going to
learn with our shaky world, you

625
00:40:26,308 --> 00:40:29,600
know?
So We do that Star Wars scene

626
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,200
with it.
They're all in the bar and all

627
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,800
these creatures from different.
But I think we'll be in

628
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,100
situations like that.
And as somebody will say

629
00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:40,600
different from your Ranch and
suddenly the whole bar gets

630
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,700
quiet, World Supercross come
over.

631
00:40:42,700 --> 00:40:46,200
Like, what tell us about it is
actually, I think it'll be of

632
00:40:46,200 --> 00:41:00,300
great interest.
This war things get confused

633
00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:07,600
after their power ideals or
morality and out there with

634
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:15,200
these natives it must be a
temptation to be God because

635
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:20,100
there's a conflict in every
human heart between the rational

636
00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:24,000
and the irrational.
Can Good and Evil.

637
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:32,300
Good does not always Triumph.
Sometimes.

638
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:39,600
Darkseid, overcomes what Lincoln
called better angels of our

639
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:45,000
nature.
It has got a Breaking Point.

640
00:41:46,300 --> 00:41:47,100
You and
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