Diane Labrecque on Jesus and More

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so we're happy to have on your
enter radio the podcast, Diane

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labrecque who is joining us and
we're going to talk about a lot

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of things but Chief among them,
the the Jesus of the Bible and

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the Jesus of the Rancho book and
how these two are coalesced.

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And also we're going to talk
about a very important book that

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I've not ever mentioned before
and in my conversations with

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Diane, she mentioned to me Duane
faa's para Moni and the

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Paramount, he was a book that
was published a long time ago

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and it is the work of Dwayne
where he is able to

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cross-reference all of the
statements in the Rancho book

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too.
Correlated statements that are

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found in the Old and New
Testament, so both of the

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Testaments and it's a remarkable
achievement.

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When you think about the fact
that one man was able to take.

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Literally almost, I won't say
almost but a tremendous

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percentage of the Rancho book
and find corollary statements.

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That backup Urantia book or at
least gives source and and I

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think Diane will have a much
better time explaining this But

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it is pretty profound a little
background on Diane.

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She is a Canadian.
She was born raised Christian in

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Quebec.
She is a highly successful,

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fashion designer.
Also a business manager.

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She has what I find interesting
when I look over her, her

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vitals, or her curricula that a
or her resume, she is very

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instrumental.
If you ever read, Malcolm

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gladwell's was a called the,
Connection or something like

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that.
She's a connector.

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She is very involved in so many
different ways with the Urantia

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book and the ranch of movement.
And it was truly, truly, truly a

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wonderful experience.
She called me not long before

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the Jubilee of Jubilee
celebration that she and dr.

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Brother Joe Joshua.
Who's been on this program?

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Formulated back when we were
celebrating and we and she

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invited me to be a part of that
Zoom conference, the global

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conference and in doing.
So I got a chance to get to know

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her and her story is just it's
incredible.

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So she joins us now and I want
to expound on her knowledge of

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the ranch of movement, her
current involvement, which he is

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doing with the Iran, shh
Association and there's just so

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much more that we can cover.
So Diane first of all, I want to

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thank God.
Bringing you into my life and

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inspiring me and it's so good to
have you here.

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How are you doing?
I'm doing great, Jim.

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And I thank God for bringing you
in my life, too, because the

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connection is just excellent.
And it was meant to be, because,

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as you said two months ago, we
didn't even know two or three

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months ago, we did not know of
one another and now Luke, we're

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doing something together on your
podcast program and it's going

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to be excellent for your
audience.

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Since they're going to be in for
treats.

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So I'm very very happy and thank
you to invite me on your

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program.
Well it's a pleasure and an

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honor and as we go through,
we'll share some of the events

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in your life that brought you to
where you are today.

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And also some questions I might
have about some of the

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conference's that you attended
but I want to start off with a

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sort of a non your Rancher
question and it was spurned.

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I started reading this book this
morning about the rise of

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totalitarianism.
In the world today because of

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events that have concurred, do
you get a sense that we are

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facing a crisis moment in the
world like, in your

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interpretation with or connected
to the Rancho book or not?

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What do you sense is the, what's
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humanity right now?
Are we, are we heading towards a

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peak moment where we're all
going to have to really decide

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what we're going to do.
Or is this just Part of the ebb

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and flow of human evolution.
What's your take on the

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situation of the world today?
By far, I would say that it is

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not just the abdomen flow.
It's actually, we're being

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tested were being brought to the
how should we say to the

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precipice to make a choice, a
personal choice?

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And I think that just like I've
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six years, it's a spiritual
situation.

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It's Way Beyond politics.
Jim to Again, this is only my

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personal opinion, you ask me.
So I'm telling you frankly, I

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think that it is Way Beyond,
it's not even a question of I'm

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in Canada.
So it's not a question of

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liberal, or conservative, or
Democrats or Republicans, or so

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on and so forth.
To me, it's a battle, a

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spiritual battle.
It's a battle between light and

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darkness, good and evil.
A lot of Truth is coming out

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there.
Seems to be not.

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There seems to be I'm sorry,
there is a great cleansing

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happening around the whole
planet and people are waking up.

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It's almost like, for coming out
of a slumber, like, waking up.

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Wow, where have I been?
You know, and now, we're being

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challenged to make our own
research to find out the truth.

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And when I say the truth, I mean
not the little human truth which

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is partial capital.
T, the spirit of Truth, which is

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Jesus - his body and so we need
to find the Truth, because we

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are into a transition period and
major planetary transition

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period that will help us to go
into a wonderful era.

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But before that, it's almost
like when you haven't inhabited

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your house for a long time and
there's all kinds of stuff that

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collected and before you go in a
reinhabit your world you have to

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do a cleansing.
And so while you cleanse you do

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you see all the Problems that
they you know all the stuff that

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needs to go.
We need to grow and rise to a

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new level of Brotherhood
together and we're going to do

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it together.
Otherwise we're not going to do

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it.
So it calls upon love, love of

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our brothers.
Like Jesus taught us do unto

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others.
What you would have them do

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unto, you love one.
Another like I have loved you so

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we need to not only know about
his teachings but we need we are

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Called now, to put more into,
put them more than ever before

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into practice so that we can see
this new transition that we're

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going through.
It's not the to me in my mind,

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it's not the end of the world,
it's the end of a world and the

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beginning of the new world.
And what is so beautiful?

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Is why we are seeing all the,
all the Gurkha stuff, you know,

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that's going on around the
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What?
Is unknown to a lot of people is

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that there's something fabulous
that's been birthing, you know,

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and it's becoming more and more
and more known to the public.

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It's the same as the when I was
there at the very beginning of

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the organic movement.
I remember when I introduced, I

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was also in the naturopathic
field when I introduced organic

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food to the supermarket's, the,
the directors would look at me

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and say, what are you crazy?
I mean organic food and today,

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there's even you go to a little
grocery store at the street

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corner, and they always have a
few organic products because

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they're good sellers, you know,
you go to the grocery store to

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the supermarket.
They have aisles of products,

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but when we began, we were the
Trailblazers and people laughed

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at us ridiculed us.
And today, it's all over the

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planet, people know of the
importance of feeding, our D.

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We are the temple of God and the
temple deserves to be treated

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properly and that is real food,
food, authentic food, healthy

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food, so that we can have a same
mind to work with a same body, a

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healthy body and that's what it
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So now it's happening worldwide
and it's a spiritual battle.

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It's a battle of values.
Spiritual values.

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Are we going to go down as we
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Our values are going down Down
or we are going to pick it up

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and go up again.
So if you look around, there's

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an extraordinary movement going,
people wanting to know the

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truth, wanting a better world
and I love to see that there's a

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lot of hope that's looking at us
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You know, the interesting that
you say I agree with you.

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I think the people the average
person on the street wants

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answers.
A meaningful answers to their

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life.
We've been reduced to, you know,

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a cog in the wheel.
Yeah, give you a good example,

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you know, over the weekend, my
wife and I went to a movie and

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nowadays.
When you go to a movie theater,

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they have you pick your seats.
You know, you have to look on

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the screen while you're getting
your tickets and they have you

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pick your seats.
Now, what always ends up

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happening, is you go into the
theater and you can't see the

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seat numbers and somebody might
be sitting in your seat,

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whatever it is.
And it becomes Because you now

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you have a, you've been assigned
a destination, you've been

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assigned a number and it's the
same with water compliance

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officers, when they drive, you
know, you can only water your

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it's all it's almost as we're
all being reduced to nothing

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more than what is termed.
The atomized humanware nothing

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more than a particle and and
we're nothing more than a digit.

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And and there's this, this
ensuing philosophy now that

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we're all just individuals that
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that, you know, we can, we can
geoengineer Harmony, you know,

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harmonious relationships.
And there are people who are in

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charge, who believe that human
beings can be controlled and

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managed.
As if as if again, they're just

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particles nothing more than
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And it's interesting because in
paper, 195, it talks about the

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mechanistic view point versus
the spiritual Viewpoint and

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right now.
Science seems to be leading the

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way in mechanistic view points,
mechanism scientism, which

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asserts that there is no God.
That there is, no Jesus.

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There is no religion that all
those things are just mere

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constructs.
And so science has

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inadvertently, declared war on
spiritualism or spirituality

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religion Faith.
This is the Age of Reason.

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This is not the age of, we broke
from the church and when we

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broke that during the
Enlightenment, we Sure that we

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are God's.
Do you not see that?

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This is the prevalent message
that's coming, not only from the

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media, but it's in our schools,
it's in our government, it's in

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our industry.
That's that's frightening to me.

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Does does that ever you see with
the pressure that we're up

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against?
We have to push back against

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that.
And I think the Rancho book

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offers a viable solution because
it is rooted in the scientific

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method, not the scientific
method But it includes science,

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it merges science.
It Bridges, the monolithic View

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to a stereo stereoscopic view of
humanity.

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When you put the spirit back in,
man, I just I've grown more

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concerned about that.
Ideological struggle.

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And I wanted to get your opinion
on.

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How do you remain?
So optimistic, which it sounds

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like you're just so terrifically
optimistic.

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Every time I speak to you, you
just full of joy.

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And I think, man, I thought
Canada was in prison.

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I thought Canada was a prison
right now.

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How is this woman?
So happy.

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But you know what you're saying
is true, the beauty.

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And that is when Jesus says the
truth shall set you free.

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It is setting us free a gym and
what's happening is that the

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great after the great cleansing,
the planetary great cleansing

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that has been processed.
We are in the process where the

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people are conscious of it or
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It is happening after this is
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It's going to be heaven on Earth
before that, unfortunately,

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there's that say that when you
clean your house, you don't like

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to see all this stuff, you know?
And you go like, oh my God,

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bring me the garbage bag.
Bring cleaning the yeah, yes,

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we're cleaning.
But after that it's spic and

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span.
And the beauty is that I was

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blessed that Jesus even before,
I knew the name, Urantia or the

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ranch a book, or the existence
of any of that or the anyone in

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the ranch.
Mmm, Movement.

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I was blessed to, to be taken up
to heaven.

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It was not the first time in my
life, but that time it was the

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major time.
And as I told my mother before

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she died, who was always scared
of dying.

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I come from a family of 12 and I
remember my mom telling us all

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the time.
Oh, don't tell me kids.

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Children, don't tell me about
death.

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I don't want it.
I am so scared.

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And after that, extraordinary
experience that Blessed me to to

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live as firsthand personal.
Spiritual experience.

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I told her I said mom you just
wait and see.

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It is so beautiful.
There's no human words to

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describe it and the beauty is
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So we may be in the dark period
where it looks like that

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mechanistic and that you know,
that stuff that is going on.

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But The sad thing is that we
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and that is we slept for a long
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lot even myself.
I consider myself being an

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artist by Nature.
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and then I worked in the field
of Health, but I always thought

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myself to be a political I
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politics, like so many people
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they say, you know, when the cat
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So, because we were all
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drink and the nice cigarette,
and a nice party and the nice

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dance, and a nice.
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people that had other agendas
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As they were laughing saying,
what we're not even getting

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opposition.
But now people are waking up and

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realizing that it is.
It is our responsibility, we get

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the world that we deserve, we
get the society that we deserve,

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we get the government that we
deserve, but we need to wake up

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and take responsibility and stop
saying, oh no, I want nothing to

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know about this, you know, I
leave it to them.

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You know, and to have Blind
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me.
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my innate in my nature, but I
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We have been given intelligence,
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You know, we deserve the effort
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it.
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of people around the world and
I've been watching it over the

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planet and it's incredible to
see even though in the mean

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stream media, we don't see all
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happening.
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You just need to know to be
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and Like Jesus says again, ask
and you shall receive and when

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you ask sometimes you're amazed
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answer because he doesn't waste
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Yeah.
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asked when you at it goes fast
and you go really You know you

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realize the seriousness of his
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if you didn't have, don't
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You never asked me but you know,
it's like a child.

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If the child asked Mommy, Daddy,
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But if the child doesn't have
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it ahead of time.
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So we need to do.
We have a responsibility as a

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Humanity.
We are all children of God and

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if we are all All children of
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That means we are automatically
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And so, we must treat our
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my parents.
As part of a family of 12, they

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taught us.
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into treating one another with
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There were little arguments at
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And after that, we would giggle
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what I mean is That the
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grew up in a family of love and
I know what it is.

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It was like a little
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industry and it had to move and
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just multiply that into Mount of
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The planet is like that we are
one big family and what one does

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to hurt Humanity hurts, a lot of
humanity but what one does of

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good Good to humanity effect.
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and so it is much more serious
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But now the time has come
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for that.
Now, Communications are in you

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know, their planetary.
I remember traveling around the

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world somewhere and it was very
expensive to call home or to

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call someone then now you go in
any country you connect with

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Communications that you choose.
For whatever, what's up?

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It's free.
You can do video.

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It's unbelievable.
How easy it is.

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And so now, the time has come
for this major cleansing, this

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major change to happen and the
Rancher book, which has been

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here for about, you know,
roughly 75 years published, but

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roughly 100 years that it was
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Now, it's time for people to
know about That in, this is why

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as we were talking you.
And I last week, I told you I

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mentioned, I think that it would
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about the pair emoni.
By the way, the word para Moni

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means the parallel and the
harmony between the Bible and

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the ranch book because we know
that there's a third of the

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planet, there's two and a half
billion naturally, I'm making

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rough General numbers.
I'm not going to say 2 billion,

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four hundred million and so but
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half billion Christians around
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Jesus is known on the planet.
Whichever religion it is, he is

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known and so I think it would be
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I think it is most crucially
important to inform Christians

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around the world that this book
called The Revolution 250 pockle

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Revolution called The Ranch a
book has a third of the book.

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Or k which is the life.
And teachings of Jesus is 777

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pages, and it is extraordinary
because it recounts us to me.

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It's the most beautiful love
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If I had a child again, it would
be the bedtime story to my my

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beloved child.
Because how are you?

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You, you cannot help but become
not fall in love you don't

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fault, you become.
You come to be in love with

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Jesus.
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year before his bestowal on
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and then year 1 2 3 4 5 and the
beauty Jim is that it is

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completely in line with the
Bible and yesterday this weekend

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as I was making more searches
for our this interview.

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I realize I had a flash in my
mind and it I realized to me

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I've all I was raised Christian
so I love the Bible, I was very

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much in love with God, Jesus,
the Holy Spirit, and all this.

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And we learned it at school and
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And so I realized that to me
with the Rancher book now and

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with this in-depth story of the
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it's almost like as an analogy,
okay?

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It's almost like when Start to
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You go to elementary, and
secondary level, and all that.

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And one of the matters you learn
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So, you're in mathematics and
this, and that, and you're

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happy, but then you grow up, you
mature, you go to a college or

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straight to University.
And then you enroll for add to

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become a mathematician, because
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So naturally you're going to
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When you're specializing in that
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new level of school.
So the ranch a book is like

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that.
It's the perfect marriage with

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the Bible and all that you can
learn in the Bible, especially

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the New Testament about Jesus
and his life and teachings, when

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you dare give it a chance and
read the Rancher book and

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especially part for specially
dedicated to Telling us the true

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life story of the birth of
Jesus, his human life and then

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his personal Ministry, and then
public Ministry.

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You discover that, it is so
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So this man that you named
earlier Jim, Dwayne far I thank

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God that I was blessed to meet
him before he left us, he left

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this world a few years ago, but
I met him in, in the 1980s 1990s

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Yes.
And as soon as I met him, it was

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like my grandfather.
It was, I loved him so much and

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his wife Lucille as well.
And he wrote this book, and at

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the time it was not done with
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Like today, you can compose so
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He did it all by hand, and he
knew the Bible inside out doing

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for was a brigadier general, and
also an attorney he taught law.

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He was a log.
Professor at Pepperdine

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University in California.
So it's not to say the least and

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I was even told that by friends
of his that Generals in the Army

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used him for advice, you know,
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He fought three War, the second
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Korean War.
Interesting.

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Yes, it was a fascinating man.
I'm so happy.

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I met him in person.
I want to just ask a couple of

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questions because you're like a
wind Up if I don't stop you but

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I don't want to miss some key
points here.

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You you mentioned two things
that are spectacular.

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One is that Dwayne fought knew
the Bible back and forth.

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Yeah he would not have been able
to do the pair of Moni had he

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not had that knowledge of the
Bible so I assume exactly.

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So therein lies a deeper point
which is here is the man who is

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The Theologian.
He understands the Bible, he

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probably knows more about the
Bible than most many people.

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Many Christians would say to
you.

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That the Bible is the final word
and expression of God and having

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adopted that philosophy.
They are resistant to the Rancho

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book because they feel that the
Rancho book may be deceptive, or

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it may be the work of evil
forces, whatever.

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Whatever they can say but yeah
you have this example of a

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professor at a very prestigious
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I've sat on the lawn at
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It's a beautiful beautiful.
One of the most beautiful

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campuses and he also was a
devout.

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Urantia book reader.
He could not have been able to

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do the pair of money unless he
had all of the knowledge and he

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needed both the Bible and the
ranch a book.

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So do you have any insight as to
what convinced?

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Dr. Fa or general, fa or Dwayne?
What convinced him?

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You do general fund?
Yes, but what convince him of

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the authenticity of the Rancho
book, what was it that convinced

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him?
This is the real deal, you know,

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Jim there Comes A Time in one's
life when the hand of God moves

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along, and we don't have a
choice to make in this.

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And that if we are really
connected with the Divine in

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each and every one of us, by the
way, It works.

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It's like by osmosis and so
that's what happened.

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He was an absolute.
He was teaching the Bible, he

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loved the Bible.
He's a seat was such a religious

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man and all that.
So it's not a coincidence, Jim

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that he knew the Bible.
So well to the point of teaching

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it and then he found the ranch a
book.

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If someone wants to know the
story of Dwayne for how he found

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the Urantia book, there's a
beautiful website called Our

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calls and saskia and her team.
They have an extraordinary

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website where you can find the
story of Dwayne Fox.

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How he found the wrench a book
and it is fascinating.

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Because again, like I repeat the
hand of God puts you on the path

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of finding it, unbeknownst to
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And then you just think even him
at the beginning.

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He thought like she doubted and
he left it there aside and it's

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only After that, he picked it up
again and started to look at it

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and became totally convinced so
much.

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So that after having read the
part, 4 of The Life and

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teachings of Jesus, he was,
simply inspired inspired in

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inside, spired the spirit, the
spirit inside him inspired him,

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a guided him to write his para
Moni.

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And at the time, imagine when he
did all that work by hand, At

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the bottom of his, the cover
story of the book, The hardcover

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book, it's he wrote, It's the
Bible readers key to the ranch

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book.
The para Moni and it's the

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Rancher book readers key to the
Bible because it's he created a

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parallel and Harmony between the
two so that people he did that

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to help people.
He knew that the Rancher book

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would find with come to its day
when it was, you know, when

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Jesus, it said my hour has come.
So the hour is coming for the

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Rancher book to become known all
over the world.

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I'm telling you and I'm on the
verge of tears at this, at the

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every time it is so beautiful.
And so at the time it had 15,000

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cross references between the
Bible and the Urantia book and

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today it has been with the
advance of technology and all

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that people.
Find it in two different ways

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they can find it on Amazon,
param own EPA are a.m. ony the

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parallel and the Harmony and
today get do you know how many

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cross-references they are from
15,000?

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It is, and then 25,000.
Now today there are more than

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60, 60, 60 thousand cross
references between readers of

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the Rancho.
Book who want to verify that the

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Bible talk about that.
Yeah, okay you go there, you're

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going the Paramount me, you find
it.

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People who read the Bible, like
Dwayne flowers, a reader of the

447
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Bible, okay?
And astute reader.

448
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You go into the Bible and you
find, oh, I wonder if the read

449
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:36,200
your book mentions that and it's
a beautiful beautiful marriage

450
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:41,800
of the two and just like when
the ranch a book was revealed.

451
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You can find a quote from the
Bible and then cross-reference

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and read verse shit.
That's exactly that.

453
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It's expounded so much.
So that over the weekend, I made

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of research and an in-depth
research.

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And just to give you an example
in the Bible, the name and

456
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that's the King James version.
That I use the name of Jesus is

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mentioned 942 times K, which is
quite a lot in the Rancher book.

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The name, Jesus is mentioned,
four thousand four, hundred and

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ninety four times.
So, and that's just, that's not

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just in the life and teachings
of Jesus, but also know it took

461
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tired.
It's the whole you arrange a

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book.
Yeah.

463
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Yes.
Because we know he's a Son of

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God, right?
And so, they talked about Jesus

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throughout the whole book and so
all this to say that it is not

466
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to diminish, or it's not the
work of the devil or on the

467
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opposite, it's a blessing to
Entity as someone said, you

468
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know, Humanity being so
scientific scientifically minded

469
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and all that and being more and
more secular needed some help to

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prevent a major catastrophe.
And so this was revealed to

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humanity, to help Humanity, not
to throw all the pass into the

472
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garbage and no on the opposite.
You've been doing wonderful.

473
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,300
Look at A third of the planet is
Christian reading.

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The Bible knows about Jesus, God
the stole this and that and

475
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:22,900
Resurrection, okay?
Now you're ready, just like when

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a child grows, if you just think
of babies, you know, when you're

477
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young at 56 years old, I
remember that I played with one

478
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of my sisters and we play dolls
and we had our little table set

479
00:31:35,300 --> 00:31:38,100
and all this and we would play
Mommy and all that.

480
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And then when I grew up well
when we both grew up, we both

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had Children.
And it's a new face but it

482
00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:49,100
doesn't mean to say that before
it was bad or it was less know,

483
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,600
it's a time, it's a coming of
age.

484
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And the coming of age is that
the revelation of the ranch,

485
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able to humanity is
extraordinary.

486
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:05,900
When it was published in 1955,
it revealed things that were not

487
00:32:05,900 --> 00:32:11,100
even known in the scientific and
in geology or different fields,

488
00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:15,200
you know?
Of science that today they've

489
00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:19,000
come out and they said actually
you know what it's true.

490
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,300
Now we have the proved because
they have you know the

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00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:28,000
technology that is more advanced
to verify two double proof you

492
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:34,000
know their discoveries and it
goes with what was said in 1955

493
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:39,900
in the urine to book so it's
extraordinary and if you want,

494
00:32:39,900 --> 00:32:41,800
we could actually just let
people know.

495
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,000
I have a couple of quotes that I
would like to just make a

496
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:50,900
parallel and a Harmony between
the Bible and the Rancher book

497
00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:56,400
because I hope I pray God and
Jesus and the Holy Spirit that

498
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Christian readers of the Bible
who want to give it at least a

499
00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:05,700
try.
You cannot judge something from

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the fear of the unknown.
You have at least I remember

501
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:13,600
being in a show one day and
Someone came to the booth and we

502
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,500
had the Bible and we were
talking about the Rancher book.

503
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,600
And this person said, oh that
book must be the work of the

504
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,500
devil and all that.
And we just simply ask the guy

505
00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:28,400
which said, okay you know the
Bible, you love it and we're

506
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,800
happy for you because we love
the Bible and we know it too.

507
00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:33,500
Now, do you know the orange
book?

508
00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:36,800
No, but I don't want to know.
And so the answer that we said

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with love and and the spirit of
Brotherhood, well, you know, the

510
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:45,500
best I could make is if you ever
want to give it a try and read

511
00:33:45,500 --> 00:33:49,800
it and then after that come and
discuss or write your questions,

512
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,100
we could go in depth and help
you.

513
00:33:52,300 --> 00:33:56,300
And if you still don't like it,
good, that's free.

514
00:33:56,300 --> 00:34:00,700
Will you make your own choice,
but at least give it a try.

515
00:34:00,900 --> 00:34:06,300
And so it has happened to a lot
of people even doing father,

516
00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:10,300
because he was such a lover of
the Bible, he left the ranch

517
00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:12,400
book aside for a few days.
Days.

518
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:17,600
And then when he was driven to
that, again, it just lit him up

519
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:22,500
like on fire.
And then God used him to write

520
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:27,900
this pair emoni, which to me if
one person wants to spoil

521
00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:31,900
themselves and by or it's their
birthday and they ask for gift,

522
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,199
how asked for two books, the
para Moni.

523
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:39,199
Be wrench, a book and the pair
emoni with their Bible and The

524
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:43,600
Trinity, the perfect Trinity.
The Bible, read the wrench, a

525
00:34:43,608 --> 00:34:48,000
book, and use a Paramount e and
compare and people will see

526
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,100
that.
It's a work of art.

527
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:53,600
It's a revelation, it's
extraordinary.

528
00:34:53,600 --> 00:35:00,100
It makes us mature and grow.
And by far, it does not belief

529
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:05,000
put down the Bible on the
opposite, it rests on the Bible

530
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:10,900
and it encourages people, and
with the new advances that we've

531
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made we are in 20:22.
Well we look at it and we go.

532
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,500
Wow.
Is that extraordinary to know

533
00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:24,800
the life of Jesus in more
details and to know each year in

534
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,700
when he was 1 years old?
Two years old, three years old

535
00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:33,000
wet were the major points that
happened and this is why I would

536
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,100
like to share the comparison
with the wrench, a book in the

537
00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:39,500
Bible just to encourage people.
Say let's see ya.

538
00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:43,000
Yes.
And gained.

539
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,000
Okay, so I told you about the
name Jesus, if we look at

540
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Paradise I'm only going to
mention names and words that we

541
00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:56,300
are all Bible readers and or
because many of us are Bible

542
00:35:56,300 --> 00:36:00,600
readers and Urantia book readers
know, from both sides.

543
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,100
So if we look at the word
Paradise, okay?

544
00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:06,200
And it's always a King James
version.

545
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So in the ranch book, it is
mentioned.

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Paradise is mentioned 1534.
Times.

547
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And in the Bible it is mentioned
three times.

548
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,400
No, Paradise.
Are you kidding me?

549
00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:25,400
The the why not?
I wish I was three times so why

550
00:36:25,700 --> 00:36:27,400
Christians don't believe in
Paradise?

551
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,000
No, it's not that.
I mean.

552
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,900
Okay, for me it's not for me to
judge.

553
00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:36,200
All I'm saying is I stayed up
all night, even the whole

554
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,600
weekend.
I was up last night at 1:00 in

555
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,000
the morning, woken up, Diane get
up.

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00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,300
Go, look this word, this word.
This word and every time, My

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00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:45,300
Marvel.
I go.

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All my God.
Can you imagine the benefit that

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00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:54,000
Bible readers will get when they
embrace the life and teachings

560
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,100
of Jesus and the wrench, a book
for the ones who will feel

561
00:36:58,100 --> 00:37:01,800
inspired to read the whole book
because it's intron the four

562
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:09,300
parts 1534 X versus three times
in the Bible.

563
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,100
So that illustrates really
Diane's, it's the scope and the

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00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:17,300
Scope of narrative of the
Urantia book for people who

565
00:37:17,300 --> 00:37:20,900
aren't familiar with it and it
is, it is truly a testament.

566
00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:24,600
We are getting close to that
point where I want to kind of

567
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,200
draw things to a conclusion and
I do have a couple of real

568
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,800
important.
Quick questions.

569
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,600
I wanted to have you reflect on
one.

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We're coming up on the 20th
anniversary.

571
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I know it's hard to believe
since you attended as a keynote

572
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,200
speaker.
Not only at the International

573
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,800
Conference of Urantia book
Fellowship but also what was

574
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:47,400
striking to me is you Also
attended the world religions,

575
00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:50,800
the parliament of the world's
religions in Chicago and 93,

576
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,800
that same year.
And you had people from all the

577
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,800
different faiths and I am sure
just judged on what I think of

578
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,800
your personality.
I'm sure you had a lot of

579
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:05,100
conversations at that event and
so really a two-pronged.

580
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:09,400
Question number one, was your
was your impression fate.

581
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,600
What did you run into people who
are favorable to the ranch?

582
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,300
A book didn't know about.
It, or were resistant to it.

583
00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:21,000
What was your general take away
from people in 1993 about the

584
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,000
Rancho book.
When you attended this world,

585
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,400
religions Parliament, there was
a booth at the parliament of the

586
00:38:27,408 --> 00:38:31,100
world's religions gym, and
people were very receptive,

587
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:35,200
naturally, it would be a not
telling the truth to say that it

588
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,200
was only a positive.
There's always people that from

589
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,800
lack of knowledge, or from the
fear of the unknown simply not

590
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,400
knowing will have the first Ian
of oh no, I'm doing fine with my

591
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,000
Bible.
Thank you very much.

592
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:54,000
But in general it was just love.
They were people who already

593
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,000
knew about the Urantia book and
so they were delighted to see

594
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,300
that the Rancher book has its
own booth and was talking and

595
00:39:02,300 --> 00:39:04,700
meeting people and spreading the
word.

596
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,000
I remember their meeting anyway,
I'm not going to go into that

597
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,400
story, but it was quite
interesting to see the two

598
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:17,400
founders of Google.
Promoting this world wide web,

599
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,800
that didn't exist.
And I remember having a vision,

600
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,200
what would that have to do with
religion?

601
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,600
Why are they showing up?
What was a jit pie doing it?

602
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,000
This thing?
Because of communication,

603
00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:33,000
always, and I remember having a
Flash and looking up and saying,

604
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,400
oh my God, this is gonna be big
is going to be plenty Terry.

605
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,800
And today, we laugh because
triple W is known all over the

606
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,100
world.
But I remembered their table, a

607
00:39:43,100 --> 00:39:47,000
very simple Table and all this.
They were students University

608
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,400
students, and all that.
So all this to say the

609
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:54,100
parliament of world religions,
had everyone from every religion

610
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:57,900
and all that, and the reception
of the Rancher book was a big

611
00:39:57,900 --> 00:39:59,600
win.
So, what happened when I mean,

612
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,300
you really felt that people were
open to this.

613
00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:07,000
I still think that most of the
world right now, they don't want

614
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,400
this book.
This book would destroy

615
00:40:10,300 --> 00:40:14,000
globalism as we as they know it
not as we know it.

616
00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:17,800
As we understand that the era of
light and life is when there's

617
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,600
eventual Brotherhood among all
Humanity but we're a long way

618
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,800
from that.
I mean we have so much work to

619
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,200
do and there are people like who
you mentioned who have a

620
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,000
completely different view point
of reality which we touched on

621
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,700
earlier.
Their version of globalism isn't

622
00:40:33,700 --> 00:40:37,700
the same as the most highs
version of globalism, you know

623
00:40:37,700 --> 00:40:39,900
what I'm saying?
In other words yeah our

624
00:40:39,900 --> 00:40:44,000
planetary seraphic government
the Four and Twenty elders.

625
00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:45,600
Elders who are involved in the
decision.

626
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,700
Making taba manciu all of these
different spiritual

627
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:54,500
personalities that are involved
behind the scenes are looking at

628
00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:58,000
the so-called globalist today
and they're saying that's not

629
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,900
the path.
You're going down people so they

630
00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:03,600
don't want religion.
I am I am convinced.

631
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:08,300
I am that there are forces today
who don't want religion.

632
00:41:08,300 --> 00:41:13,000
And if this book came along and
brought more people to the truth

633
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,400
and the reality of Jesus, This
is Mission, then it's going to

634
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:21,500
destroy their ability, I think
to achieve their own short-term

635
00:41:21,500 --> 00:41:24,400
goals.
So that's why I asked about the

636
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,800
world.
Faith Parliament.

637
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,900
What is your view of the
reception?

638
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:32,300
I know the people are receiving
it but are the right, people

639
00:41:32,300 --> 00:41:34,200
receiving it.
In other words, you know, in

640
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,700
Jesus, I did.
Yes.

641
00:41:35,700 --> 00:41:36,800
Yeah, I believe.
Yes.

642
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,800
Jim.
And first of all, I want to see

643
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,400
want to know what he's talking
about.

644
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:43,900
That's what I'm saying, right?
Okay, what I want to say is

645
00:41:43,900 --> 00:41:49,700
first First of all, there are
many several Bible readers who

646
00:41:49,700 --> 00:41:53,900
have the wrench, a book and know
about the ranch abou and use

647
00:41:53,900 --> 00:41:58,600
that extraordinary,
supplementary information in

648
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,900
their preaching, which impresses
a lot of their followers because

649
00:42:02,900 --> 00:42:05,500
it's like wow.
Does he ever know a lot?

650
00:42:05,500 --> 00:42:09,600
And that Tata Tata, they are not
ready to come up front and say

651
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,500
I'm a your wrench a book reader
as well.

652
00:42:11,500 --> 00:42:13,600
They need hate really.
Well what are they waiting for?

653
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,600
I get it, it's the cancel
culture, which goes right back

654
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,800
to what I was saying, is that
the world as it is today, wants

655
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,400
to distance, there are people
who hate Christians.

656
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,000
There are people who hate
Christianity, it's hard to

657
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,400
believe in my mind, it's a war,
right?

658
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,700
It's spiritual more.
Like I said, at the beginning,

659
00:42:29,700 --> 00:42:34,200
it's a spiritual war to exactly
eliminate Christianity.

660
00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:38,400
And I won't go into depth today
about that.

661
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,400
But what you're saying is true
and it's much deeper than people

662
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,400
like to think but At the same
time I like to reassure myself

663
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:52,100
and people Godwin's.
So and Jesus wins because like

664
00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:55,100
Jesus said the Son and the
father are one.

665
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:56,900
Okay.
So they win.

666
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,900
And it also depends Jim on the
way to present the rentable.

667
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,400
First and foremost, I would say
whoever does that has to live

668
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:11,300
the teachings of Jesus to live
to be a living example.

669
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,900
You don't push the urine to book
on people.

670
00:43:14,100 --> 00:43:17,600
You can actually have a negative
reaction and people will put on

671
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,300
the on their shelf and four
years won't even touch it.

672
00:43:21,500 --> 00:43:25,500
And so you approach the Rancher
book, you must read it with your

673
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:28,800
heart and mind, not just with
your intellect.

674
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,900
You need first and foremost to
connect at the soul level in

675
00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:35,400
your heart and soul as the
expression says.

676
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:41,600
And when you are open to receive
and at any time, God gave each

677
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,900
human being Free Will at
Anytime, if someone is not

678
00:43:45,900 --> 00:43:49,300
pleased, they can say, okay, I'm
closing it without having to

679
00:43:49,300 --> 00:43:52,600
swear and throw it by the wall,
just say no.

680
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:57,100
Okay, I've had enough, I just
close it but it's in the way to

681
00:43:57,100 --> 00:44:01,500
present the Revelation.
This is too important to

682
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:03,800
high-quality.
It's like if I give you a

683
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:08,300
Rolls-Royce or you going to miss
handle it and treat it like it's

684
00:44:08,300 --> 00:44:11,700
a fiasco.
No, it's a Rolls-Royce.

685
00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:16,600
You have to handle it.
It's TD wrench, a book is like

686
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,000
that.
And so if you present it

687
00:44:19,100 --> 00:44:24,800
correctly to people and it first
and foremost, you are in love

688
00:44:24,900 --> 00:44:29,100
with God, With Jesus, with the
Revelation just like, people are

689
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:33,000
in love.
Why do Christian do so well with

690
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,500
the Bible?
Because when I listened to them

691
00:44:35,500 --> 00:44:39,100
and I follow them, there's one
in particular that crosses my

692
00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:42,300
mind.
She is so in love with Jesus.

693
00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:45,200
That she's an extraordinary.
Denari preacher in.

694
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,400
God bless her soul, what she
says is phenomenal, but she's a

695
00:44:49,408 --> 00:44:52,300
Bible reader, she's a lover and
all that.

696
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,700
Can you imagine if she
discovered the Rancher book, The

697
00:44:55,700 --> 00:45:00,100
plus that it does?
It's not a - it's like you, you

698
00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:03,900
climb a new level and you go
like all that I knew.

699
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:07,300
Plus the new knowledge it will
happen.

700
00:45:07,300 --> 00:45:10,600
It's not a question of if it's
only a question of when.

701
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,500
I personally believe that the
hour is coming For the Rancho

702
00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:22,800
Revolution to make a new birth
in the minds of many, many, many

703
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,700
Bible readers around the world
and other people as well.

704
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:29,800
And for people to embrace it and
see that it is a divine

705
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,600
revelation.
Let's also I gotta just a few

706
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,700
more minutes.
Talk to me about the different

707
00:45:35,700 --> 00:45:37,100
groups.
There, you've got the

708
00:45:37,108 --> 00:45:39,800
foundation, the association the
fellowship.

709
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:44,600
You have different groups are we
duplicitous in Our efforts, are

710
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,700
we all pushing the boulder?
How do you view, what is the

711
00:45:47,700 --> 00:45:49,600
role of each of these groups in
your mind?

712
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,100
Because I know that you're in,
you have been involved in all of

713
00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:54,600
them.
And I think a lot of people rent

714
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,500
or foundation and all wrench on
talking about the main goal the

715
00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:00,400
main vision of each one in this
again.

716
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,100
I see the Trinity I've already
mentioned Square circles.

717
00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:07,900
People gain a lot by going to
visit Square circles because

718
00:46:07,900 --> 00:46:12,100
there's so much information and
then you have the three major

719
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:16,200
organizations first and Most
like a trinity of the top, is

720
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:17,900
the ranch of foundation.
Why?

721
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:23,100
Because the ranch of foundation
oversees, the translation of the

722
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:27,600
ranch a book worldwide.
It's already in many languages.

723
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:33,000
I think now, there are 20 and
all this to say that very soon.

724
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,800
The translations that are it's
even done in Hebrew.

725
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,700
It's done in, I won't name all
the languages, but it's going to

726
00:46:40,700 --> 00:46:45,400
be enough to help.
Percent of the world's

727
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:50,100
population to be able to access
the Rancher book and all this.

728
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:55,200
Now the second one and they have
other functions.

729
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,500
But I'm talking about the main
one and then you have you AI,

730
00:46:59,700 --> 00:47:03,300
the ranch Association
International and what I like

731
00:47:03,300 --> 00:47:05,500
about you AI.
Is that the focus?

732
00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:10,400
Very, very much on studying they
have the study groups,

733
00:47:10,700 --> 00:47:14,300
worldwide, you go online and if
you're traveling, if you To go

734
00:47:14,300 --> 00:47:18,100
to Europe tomorrow for a week or
two and you want to continue to

735
00:47:18,100 --> 00:47:21,600
go to a study group and meet
people and readers and and make

736
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,200
new friends and discover new
faces, you know?

737
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,500
And all this you go online and
there's a worldwide.

738
00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:34,000
How do we say okay?
Yes, exactly.

739
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,500
And you look I'm in France.
Okay.

740
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,300
I want to see and you see all
the listing of the study groups

741
00:47:40,300 --> 00:47:42,200
and you call them and you say
what?

742
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,800
I'd be welcome to join your
group.

743
00:47:43,900 --> 00:47:47,600
This week and next week because
I'm visiting from from America.

744
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:52,600
Yeah come over and vice versa
and so they do that and they

745
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:57,100
also offer they have great
great, great knowledgeable,

746
00:47:57,100 --> 00:48:01,500
readers who are giving courses
now with zoom.

747
00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:04,400
It's wonderful, you save a lot
of money, you don't need to

748
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,400
travel, you don't need to pay
for this and that you sit at

749
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,300
home and you connect with
readers from around the world

750
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,800
with teachers that are experts
in.

751
00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:17,500
In the knowledge and the
understanding of the Revelation.

752
00:48:17,700 --> 00:48:22,100
And then the third one is the
Urantia book fellowship, and

753
00:48:22,100 --> 00:48:26,900
like the word, says Fellowship.
So, the fellowship is very much

754
00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:30,900
engaged into international
events, like the parliament of

755
00:48:30,900 --> 00:48:36,000
world religions in 93, like
doing and they even did the one

756
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,900
in Africa and all that.
We just finished a few weeks

757
00:48:38,900 --> 00:48:43,400
ago, two or three weeks ago.
This beautiful conference.

758
00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:48,900
International Conference in
Chicago where we had the old by

759
00:48:48,900 --> 00:48:51,600
the way.
Yeah let me say this.

760
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:56,000
They had the conference.
The the theme was on Mel, kids a

761
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,500
deck.
Yes at one of the trips that are

762
00:48:58,500 --> 00:49:01,600
organized for Urantia book
readers to the Holy Land.

763
00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:07,200
Jewish people more and more
people are interested in male

764
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,000
kids.
A deck.

765
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,100
Okay?
And I remembered when I had my

766
00:49:11,100 --> 00:49:15,200
group with me and I had
beautiful Hackers made by Rick

767
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,800
Lyon, and Susan of Melchizedek
with the menorah and the Urantia

768
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,700
book and the three concentric
circles.

769
00:49:22,100 --> 00:49:30,400
And I the guide that I had
hired, who is a sum, in guide in

770
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,800
Israel, he looked at us and
said, Mac, is it that market

771
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,900
today?
What do you know about Mel?

772
00:49:35,900 --> 00:49:37,500
Good to take that?
We don't know.

773
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,500
And then I looked in the Bible
and in the Old Testament, the

774
00:49:41,500 --> 00:49:47,200
named Melchizedek is Mentioned
two times twice, that's it, huh?

775
00:49:47,700 --> 00:49:53,200
Just two times in the New
Testament and that comes from

776
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,700
King James version.
I bet it's not me, making it up

777
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:02,500
scientific research and in the
New Testament, it's mentioned

778
00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:05,700
nine times for total of 11
times.

779
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:11,500
Now, in the ranch a book,
there's even papers papers about

780
00:50:11,500 --> 00:50:16,300
now because the deck to the
Wayne that Melchizedek the named

781
00:50:16,300 --> 00:50:21,500
Melchizedek is mentioned three
hundred and twenty three times.

782
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:25,100
That is that it's more than 30
times and then addition to that

783
00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:28,100
and you'll probably will say it
but there are also papers that

784
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:32,400
are written by melchizedek's,
that's amazing, you're getting

785
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:38,200
paper 92, I think of them they
are teachers they are the

786
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,400
highest almost the highest level
of teacher that you could find

787
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,300
in the universe and they Are
writing papers for us to read

788
00:50:46,300 --> 00:50:49,300
that that could blow any, if
you're a Mormon, I don't know if

789
00:50:49,300 --> 00:50:52,200
you happen to know, but in the
Book of Mormon Melchizedek is

790
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:58,700
also a very central figure.
And so imagine you know they

791
00:50:58,700 --> 00:51:05,400
said you know in Hebrews 7 17 it
says you know they just hit very

792
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,700
quickly and it is yet far more
evident for that after the

793
00:51:09,700 --> 00:51:13,800
similitude of Melchizedek there
arises another.

794
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,800
Reef, who is made?
Not after the law of a carnal

795
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,600
commandment.
But after the power of an

796
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:27,800
endless life, for he testify, if
thou art a priest Forever After

797
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,900
the order of Melchizedek, and we
heard that very often in many,

798
00:51:31,900 --> 00:51:35,400
many places, many countries.
And so in the Urantia book is

799
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:40,600
paper 93 dedicated to
Melchizedek Nike Ventanas a

800
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,900
decade says, now because it act
taught that at At some future

801
00:51:44,900 --> 00:51:47,100
time.
Another Son of God, we know

802
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:51,800
who's talking about, Jesus would
come in the flesh as he had

803
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,100
come.
Like he knocked his addict had

804
00:51:54,100 --> 00:51:59,000
come but that he would be born
of a woman and that is why

805
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:05,400
numerous leader teachers, held
that Jesus was a priest Forever

806
00:52:05,500 --> 00:52:08,900
After the order of Melchizedek.
So it's beautiful.

807
00:52:08,900 --> 00:52:12,900
You see the parallel and the
Harmony One respects the other.

808
00:52:12,900 --> 00:52:15,300
It's not one Littles the other,
right?

809
00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:20,200
It's one uplift the other and
it's just like your two hands

810
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:23,400
when you cross them in the
fingers, match, one inside the

811
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:24,800
other in the other and the
other.

812
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:28,700
And so it is like that.
It's a beautiful dance between

813
00:52:28,900 --> 00:52:33,800
the Bible and the Urantia book.
So it's it's like that, you

814
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:39,600
know, it's one thing for sure.
They can only they can only know

815
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,700
better just the name Universe,
we know that.

816
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:48,000
We the universe is Way Beyond
just planet Earth.

817
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:55,200
Okay, named Urantia in the you
in the Urantia book 2330 times

818
00:52:55,500 --> 00:52:59,300
in the Bible zero really
automate?

819
00:52:59,300 --> 00:53:00,400
Yeah.
That's a great.

820
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,600
Great nice tration.
Yeah.

821
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,200
And again it's not belittling
the Bible at all.

822
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:11,000
It's just no illustrating.
The the expansion of the basic

823
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,400
premises that we get them judeo
Christian And the growth that we

824
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,800
have done Jim because that was
2,000 years ago.

825
00:53:19,100 --> 00:53:24,400
We do such gratitude to our
forefathers to have to the

826
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:30,900
apostles to, to all the Moses to
Abraham to everyone, to have to

827
00:53:30,900 --> 00:53:35,900
have done such incredible work.
That the Bible has been feeding

828
00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:40,300
to a third of the planet for the
past 2000 years.

829
00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:43,700
Now, Humanities ready for a new
phase.

830
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:48,900
As of growth and the Rancher
book comes in and complements

831
00:53:48,900 --> 00:53:52,000
the Bible and it's just a
continuity.

832
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,100
And so it's not a competition
and it's not to choose one

833
00:53:56,100 --> 00:54:01,100
against the other, how about
both, and give it a try and read

834
00:54:01,100 --> 00:54:04,000
it.
And most Unpretty, sure that if

835
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:09,300
people read it with their heart
and soul, and mind as well being

836
00:54:09,300 --> 00:54:12,300
inhabited of the thought,
adjuster, they will have braces.

837
00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:15,900
Yeah, a lot of people now,
Because of things like Yelp, you

838
00:54:15,900 --> 00:54:18,700
know, they'll go on and somebody
will say, Hey, you know, like

839
00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:21,900
though want to go read a review
of a movie or they're buying a

840
00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:25,500
refrigerator and they want to
look at, you know, user reviews

841
00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:28,300
or whatever they do that your
auntie book, one of the worst

842
00:54:28,300 --> 00:54:31,700
things you could do is go.
And look what Google has to say

843
00:54:31,700 --> 00:54:34,200
about it because it's going to
it's going to send you in a lot

844
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,500
of different directions but it's
not going to tell you anything

845
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,300
Wikipedia does a pretty good job
I think but it can be changed

846
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,700
easily.
So but the best thing to do is

847
00:54:42,700 --> 00:54:45,400
just Download it.
The big blue book.

848
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,100
I think it is on Apple, on
iTunes, you can certainly

849
00:54:49,100 --> 00:54:51,100
download the book the audio.
There's so many different

850
00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:54,400
mediums that are available and
people who are listening to this

851
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:55,900
podcast, probably are aware of
that.

852
00:54:55,900 --> 00:54:58,700
But just as a reminder, well
Diane I think this might be a

853
00:54:58,708 --> 00:55:01,900
good place for us to to
conclude.

854
00:55:02,300 --> 00:55:03,500
Yeah, go ahead.
Please.

855
00:55:03,700 --> 00:55:08,100
Would you allow me to give an
explanation suggestion because I

856
00:55:08,100 --> 00:55:12,100
said earlier, people who want to
read the para Moni, they can buy

857
00:55:12,100 --> 00:55:16,300
it on Amazon but if Want to go
online for free, they can

858
00:55:16,300 --> 00:55:22,700
actually go to your Rancher, a
dash book that org and on the

859
00:55:22,700 --> 00:55:26,800
fellowship website, called
Urantia Dash book dot-org.

860
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,300
They just have to look up at
your Ranch a book and then para

861
00:55:30,300 --> 00:55:33,100
Moni.
And they will see the two links

862
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:38,900
of the bible papers and then of
the ranch, a book, and compare

863
00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:41,100
the two.
And I'd like to finish by

864
00:55:41,100 --> 00:55:46,700
saying, when the wrench a book
came out in 1955 the Vatican

865
00:55:46,700 --> 00:55:49,400
received the copy, the Vatican
receives, a copy of all the

866
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:54,200
books that are published.
And I was told that priests who

867
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:58,100
wanted to read, they had to go
read it, I won't say where.

868
00:55:58,100 --> 00:56:03,700
But anyway, because it was not
say where we're not gonna storm

869
00:56:03,700 --> 00:56:06,600
the vanity, we go, let's see,
they would need to go to the

870
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:10,300
bathroom for that charity.
Except that they would come out

871
00:56:10,300 --> 00:56:15,500
a long time after because it was
very Creaking, but do you rent

872
00:56:15,500 --> 00:56:19,600
the Vatican, had the wrench, a
book and I even have a book that

873
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:25,700
I gave it a an interview that I
showed visually, where the

874
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:30,600
church admitted that Jesus was
born at another time that

875
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,600
Christmas time.
But again, that's part of

876
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,600
clarifying just like science is
discovering stuff that we used

877
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,400
to believe in now.
They say no, no, no.

878
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:42,900
Now we got the proof.
We saw it and we can clarify.

879
00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:46,200
And it's Snot to again, attack
the path.

880
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,900
We are growing beings, and our
knowledge is growing.

881
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,500
And so the ranch a book was
known at the Vatican since 1955

882
00:56:54,700 --> 00:56:59,400
and it's not a coincidence that
we're doing this interview and I

883
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:04,300
pray, God, that Bible readers
will go and look it up and read

884
00:57:04,300 --> 00:57:08,000
it and just become in love with
Jesus.

885
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,700
Like, all of us are.
Yeah, just there's nothing short

886
00:57:11,700 --> 00:57:13,600
of fantastic getting that
experience.

887
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,500
Of reading his life in full for
the first time.

888
00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:19,600
And then you really begin to
understand what the

889
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,200
misconceptions are today about
this man.

890
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,700
And there are a lot of
misconceptions to be sure.

891
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Diane.
I thank you so much for being

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on.
I'll have you again.

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And I, I I'm short of words, but
I know you aren't.

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So again, thank you.
Thank you.

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Thank you.
Have a good sense of humor and

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we'll talk again soon.
Thank you, Diane labrecque

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joining us on the Iran charade.
Podcast.