Ancient Aliens and The Urantia Book

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We caught up with Joel Garbin
some time ago.

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He did a presentation about the
Urantia book at a UFO event.

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His presentation caught my
attention and we have remained

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friends ever since.
But in this discussion you are

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about to hear about the UFO
ancient alien connection.

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What I found in my research
recently is that the earliest

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ancient kingdoms of men have a
striking resemblance to the

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various ancient aliens of our
past, which were many according

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to the Urantia Book.
For example, the Eratians and

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the Acadians of eastern Turkey
emerged from Lake Van, the same

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spot.
The Urantia Book says the

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Atomites and Nodites lived for
thousands of years.

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Our very understanding of human
evolution does not account for

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advanced past civilizations and
yet we have more than enough

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evidence to show there were in
fact ancient advanced

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civilizations.
Where did they come from?

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And many of these ancient
advanced civilizations gave

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birth to some of the world's
oldest religions.

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We will talk about all of this,
plus some insight into what is

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going on today with government
cover ups of so-called alien

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races.
It's a lot to uncover and we

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will with my guest Joel Garvin
on this episode of the Rancher

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Radio Podcast.
And I want to welcome my guest

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Joel Garvin.
He's been on the program before.

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You might remember in previous
podcast we went into a lot about

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Ufology, UFOs, ancient aliens
and how they relate to the

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teachings of the Urancha book.
And Joel I consider to be sort

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of an expert, but at the same
time he's also Urancha book

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reader.
So he knows the Urancha book and

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it makes it easy and possible
for us to have this kind of

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conversation which I think is
quite unique not only to your

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answer book readers and but
would also prove to be

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interesting to people who are
into Ufology.

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So hopefully people who are
finding this podcast and and who

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are into things like ancient
aliens might find what we have

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to say quite interesting.
How are you, Joel, and Happy New

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Year to you?
Oh, thanks Jim.

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Yeah, I'm doing great and I'm
really happy to reconnect with

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you and revisit this topic about
the UFOET matters and life on

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your ranch.
It seems like it's all mixed

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together.
Yeah, it sure is.

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These are no question,
interesting times.

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What makes some of it
interesting is that in the last

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few months, as you know, because
you and I have been talking

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about this, but apparently when
it comes to UFOs, a lot of

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Americans are convinced that we
are our government are, are

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engaged with intelligent life
forms from other worlds.

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Is that, is that your assessment
that there is a belief right now

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that we are engaged with an
intelligent life form and have

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been for quite some time?
Oh, I'd say it's much more than

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a belief, Jim.
This is really a proven fact.

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There's been expert testimony
from within the intelligence

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community's military community,
military industrial contractor,

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community, whistleblower
testimony provided to

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congressional panels, hearings
on this topic because of the the

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high credibility of the
testimony of these

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whistleblowers and where so much
of this kind of reached a head.

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Where it kind of exploded onto
the media scene, happened this

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past June, June of of 2023 when
a a gentleman named David Grush

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came forward as a whistleblower
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standpoint of his position as a
former US Air Force officer.

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He worked in the National
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and in the National
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He gave testimony to the US
Senate Select Committee on

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Intelligence and he he gave his
testimony that there are not

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only real alien as an ETUFO
crashed vehicles that had been

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recovered, many of them, but
also what was termed biologics

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meaning actual bodies of of
extraterrestrials that's you

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know supposedly the pilots of
these craft.

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Now the the attorney, well the
the Inspector General for the

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Intelligence community, he found
that the the complaint that was

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filed by this David Grush that
all of this information had been

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suppressed by the Pentagon.
The the Inspector General found

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that this was a credible
complaint and he said it's also

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urgent.
In fact, he, he quote UN quote,

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said this is credible and urgent
and that the intelligence

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community has inappropriately
withheld information on this

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topic from Congress.
So it's not unusual that members

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of Congress and even the White
House itself have been excluded

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from what's really been going
on, on this whole topic of of

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UFOs and and ET for for well
over generations.

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It's been at at least 70 years,
maybe longer, but certainly it

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goes back to the 1940s where a
lot of activity was happening.

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Everyone's heard about Roswell
incident in New Mexico back in

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the 40s and and people have
heard bits and pieces of that.

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But, but just going forward from
there, there's been all kinds of

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of activity that has gone on
with the US military getting

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involved with this phenomenon,
with crash retrievals, with

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weapons programs to actually be
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extraterrestrial craft.
And most recently, this topic

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has been taken so seriously in
the Congress that there was a

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bill proposed by the Senate that
required the Full disclosure of

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the Pentagon and any military
industrial contractor companies.

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And these would be the big, big
aerospace contractors, you know

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like the Boeings and the, the
Lockheeds etcetera.

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They had to turn over everything
they have on this whether if, if

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they have any types of artifacts
from these crash retrievals, if

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they've done any type of back
engineered technology.

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From what they've learned from
these recovered materials.

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If they have any information
regarding the occupants of those

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crafts or anything else
pertaining to this matter that

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they would be required to turn
this over by law to to the

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Congressional folks, our elected
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And also this bill had in at the
provision that there would be a

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a public oversight committee on
this process and that Congress

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would have full subpoena power
to call forward any

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whistleblowers or any personnel
connected with the phenomenon

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that might be within the
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community or in these military
industrial contractor companies.

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Now when that bill was put
forward, it caused a huge stir

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within the Pentagon and within
the military industrial

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companies and they lobbied very,
very hard to have those

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provisions that required the
this this information to be

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turned over to Congress.
They lobbied hard against that,

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they lobbied hard against the
the Public Oversight Committee

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and they lobbied hard against
the subpoena power.

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Now what that clearly is, is
just continued cover up

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activity.
If they have nothing to hide

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then why all of this fierce
resistance to the provisions in

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that bill?
So this is this is a very high

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level situation going on and I
have some personal contacts who

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are who are pretty deeply
embedded in this whole thing,

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including Daniel Sheehan who is
a constitutional lawyer who's

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been involved in some very high
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Anyone who looks up Daniel
Sheehan, you will, you will find

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you know his his profile.
Brilliant man.

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He has served as the General
Counsel for both the what's been

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termed the Disclosure Project,
which is is tried to to bring

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out hundreds of these
whistleblowers in front of

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Congress.
He also has been the General

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counsel for several of these
individual whistleblowers,

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including the folks like David
Grush, who who gave his

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testimony most recently Now.
Now, what Daniel Sheehan has

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done is he has set up a an
office in Washington, DC pretty

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much right across from the
Supreme Court and it's it's

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called the New Paradigm
Institute.

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And what it is doing right now
is it is facilitating meetings

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between the few dozen most
significant whistleblowers and

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members of Congress so that
members of Congress can hear the

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whole story, unadulterated,
unfiltered, so that they know

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first hand what that testimony
is before they go into

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congressional hearings.
And it's a human.

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Service.
There's a lot of stuff that you

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covered there.
What are they?

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What is everybody whistleblowing
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Are they whistleblowing about
the fact that there's been alien

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technology?
Are they whistleblowing the fact

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that we are currently, right
now, at the present age, having

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interaction with these alien
forces that don't live and

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they're not from this world?
What exactly are it?

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It's it's always like I I get
the same feeling talking to you

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as I get when I'm watching an
episode of Ancient Aliens.

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There's all this stuff going on,
but it never really gets to a

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conclusion.
What is it?

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That's what I want to know.
What is it that everybody will

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somebody please say what it is
that they're whistleblowing of?

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What is the truth here?
You know what I'm saying?

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So.
Jim, Yeah.

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So I'd ask you to to put
yourself in the shoes.

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Let's say you're a Sergeant in
our armed forces and you're part

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of a a task team that is an
emergency response core of

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highly trained military
professionals that when you get

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a call to go recover a crashed
object and you might think that

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that recovered crash is maybe
it's a Soviet military jet or a

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Chinese drone or or who knows
what.

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And then you go to that scene
and what you find is this is a

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saucer that has no visible
entrance to it, because the

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engineering of the craft is such
that there's no visible seams,

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no bolts, no rivets, maybe no
windows, no way to get in or

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out.
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And then you see that there are
bodies next to it that are not

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Earth human bodies.
Humanoid, yes, but not not

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clearly definable as as Earth
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And then you see that what is
immediately mobilized are all of

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these other military or special
OPS teams that are telling you

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immediately that you just do
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You don't tell anybody what's
going on here or there's going

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to be serious consequences.
And then and then as as you Jim,

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in that capacity as a Sergeant,
you you find out over years

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what's going on in that there's
a back engineering program going

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on.
That this, this technology that

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appears to be alien in nature is
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used in various covert ways.
And that the funding for those

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programs are coming from a black
budget program that is funneling

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over the years, hundreds of
billions, perhaps trillions of

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dollars of taxpayer money into
black budget programs where

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there is no congressional
oversight.

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And that this has been going on
for a long time.

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And then you find out that that
wasn't the only particular

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incident, but that there have
been dozens of these recoveries

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that have gone on.
And so now you, Jim, you find

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out from your buddy network and
now maybe you are retired from

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the military and you've been
watching the state of our world.

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I I I get that.
I get what you're saying about

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the the guy who's in that that
position but we're so far

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beyond.
I I think you you kind of

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answered the question the the
big surprise here or the big

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revelation here is that we have
come across alien technology and

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our government has figured out a
way to reverse engineer a lot of

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this technology maybe some you
know Boeing some of these other

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entities these agencies have
have benefited OK so but but

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you're you're talking to a guy
who grew up watching Star Trek

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close encounters, Star Wars.
I mean, the idea of life being

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out there is is already almost
an A priori assumption because

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we have more than.
And that's why I kind of want to

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steer.
Let's assume for the sake of all

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of this discussion.
Well, I don't need the

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government to tell me that there
are extraterrestrials.

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I don't need them to tell me or
confirm it if they're hiding it.

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You know, someday we'll find
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I I I was convinced a long time
ago when I heard that Eisenhower

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went to Palmdale one day to have
a meeting with, you know, some

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representative from some other
some other world.

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So I'm.
I'm in.

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And I think you're in too.
That's why we're all so

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fascinated.
But here's where the metal meets

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the road or the the you know
what we're really talking about?

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Is it #1?
There is life out there and

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there, and there's more.
You and I, being Urania book

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readers, understand that there
is a plethora of life out there.

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Maybe the world is behind, but
we believe, or at least the

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Urania books states that
actually we're part of one

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system that's comprised of 619
other worlds very similar to our

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own, maybe some a little
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OK, so let's narrow in on that.
Let's assume that there is life

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out there.
Let's also assume that our

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planet has been visited many
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We have the Urania book says
that they showed up 500,000

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the life carriers, they showed
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to to kind of get things going
to our evolutionary life would

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appear again.
It's no big deal, but my

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question is how come we never
connect what the Urantia Book

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says about there being an
advanced spiritual and mirantial

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life form that has been part of
the growth of this world we

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we're living in a in a grand,
organized, living universe.

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There's a purpose to all this
madness and that all of these

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ancient aliens that were
visiting our world are exactly

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the ancient aliens that the
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The Nodites, the Adamites, the
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Calagasti is 100.
There's the other piece of the

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missing puzzle.
If you look at a map of all of

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these olden kingdoms, the
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back, it starts to diminish
around 5000 BC, which is

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basically when the Andites,
their last aspersion into the

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end, and we can go into the
Andites and all that.

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Don't you think that's a better
story?

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Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, Jim, it is a better story.

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And part I mean personally.
Part of my purpose in my

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connections with many of the the
UFO researchers has been to get

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them to examine the uranium
material because it does paint

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such a seamless picture as far
as a highly inhabited universe.

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Civilizations that clearly have
existed for far longer than the

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humanity on this planet and that
much of of the the early

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civilization, if not all of it
in in Earth history came from

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beings who who are
technologically advanced.

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They came from worlds like the
Calagasia 100.

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Those were 100 individuals who
had lived human lives on 100

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other planets from our local
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significantly older than our own
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And they undoubtedly would have
had among that mix of 100

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beings, all kinds of advanced
knowledge about science,

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engineering, construction
methods, energy, propulsion, you

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name it.
But just a a a whole box of

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tools, in other words, that
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civilization here on this
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So that makes great sense to me
and I think to other people who

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see that the story is told in
great detail in the Urantia

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Book.
And so when you watch a program

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like Ancient Aliens which you
referenced, they kind of pulled

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out little pieces of this of
archaeological discoveries, all

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kinds of speculation about
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They're trying to to tie it into
the the current UFO disclosure

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movement and all that.
But they they have all these

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missing pieces they don't have
any type of real, coherent and

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consistent explanation for.
No they don't.

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No and.
Your answer book lays it out

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beautifully.
Yeah, let me let me throw out

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some examples.
So, Joel, I I pulled up.

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I did.
I've been studying this for

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about, I don't know, three or
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I went back and I looked at all
of the oldest empires, meaning

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that these were groups or areas
of of the world where there was

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some kind of like advancement
going on, like they were smarter

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than what was going on around
them and and it was localized,

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localized, advanced societies.
The Sumerians are the oldest

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ones that we have on record and
they go all the way back to

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4500.
Now the Urantia book makes the

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claim that these are the last of
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Who are the Andites?
The Andites are a an

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amalgamation of the the
descendants of Adam and the

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descendants of the Nodites,
which was, in reference to the

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planetary Prince that showed up
a half a million years ago, the

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appearance of the colored races.
Then we have the Indus, that's

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the second oldest civilization,
the Harapen Empire, the third

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oldest the Egyptian empire.
And I'm doing this in

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chronological, chronological
order, and I'll save everybody a

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lot of time.
As I look through each one of

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these different groups, what I
noticed is that they correlate

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with exactly what the Urantia
Book says is what happened as

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the atomites and the andites
emerged from Mesopotamia,

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Babylonia, and all these ancient
Southwest Asian and Persian

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areas, Mesopotamia and all that.
And so there's connective tissue

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here to show that we we are the
descendants of these ancient

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aliens.
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And I think that's, I love how
you, you walked along that

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timeline of all these, you know,
fairly well researched

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historical civilizations.
You know something, Jim, that

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the Aransa book lays out is all
of the different Nodite centers

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of of civilization.
It wasn't just like 1 little

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group like the quote UN quote
the Land of Nod, but it says

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there were, there were basically
four different centers of Nodite

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civilization there.
There was the Western Nodites

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who were basically around Syria
who later became the Assyrians.

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OK, right.
Yeah, yeah, the Eastern.

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The Babylonian Empire, That's
correct.

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That's right.
Exactly.

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You had the Eastern Nodites who
who were the Elamites?

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And those were the, quote UN
quote land of Nod people.

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You had the Central Nodites who
were around the mouth of the

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Tigris.
Euphrates, where the Sumerians

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were, were kind of the last
remnants of those Central

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Nodites and then the Northern
Nodites who were, who were

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described as being the
descendants of Van and Amidon.

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OK, they were established around
eastern Turkey or Armenia, which

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is where Lake Van itself is
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And guess what is right in that
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It's the the very famous
archaeological excavation of

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Gobekli Tepe.
That's right.

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OK.
It goes back 12,000 years.

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Exactly, exactly.
So the answer book really can

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really can connect that to the
the Nodites who who first, you

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know, the Nodites really came
about 200,000 years ago.

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So they had all kinds of time to
to build cities, to build

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megalithic structures.
The Andites who you referred to,

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who came along later, who were,
who were the blended race of the

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the atomites and the Nodites.
And generally going back to

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about 30,000 years ago and then
moving forward, You know, they

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were described in your answer
book as great builders and that

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they were actually the ones who
who built the pyramids, the

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obelisks, these other megalithic
structures.

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They were great explorers,
meaning that look, these guys,

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they were going around the
globe, they were carrying their

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their technology, their, their
construction prowess, their

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engineering skills, they're
carrying these around.

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So that easily explains how come
there are pyramids all around

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the globe back thousands of
years.

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You know two groups that are
probably more of the well known

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ancient kingdoms are the
Acadians or the Acadians which

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existed around 2500 BC.
They are the descendants of the,

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as you mentioned, the Northern
Nodites, Lake Van region as well

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as the Eurasians, which is very
similar to the term Euransians

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if you if you could see it
phonetically.

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But again you know the Olmecs
you mentioned about how the

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Andites then spread out the
Adamite spreading out their

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seed, all the Olmecs, another
very ancient civilization.

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And and see to illustrate I
think this Joel and I know you

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know this but it it this is not
consistent What we're talking

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about here is inconsistent with
the scientific view of

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evolutionary man because science
has it that the farther you go

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back the Dumber we are.
And yet if you go back and and

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you go back really far you start
to find out that there were

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these advanced civilizations.
Why would there be advanced

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civilizations farther back like
you say go Goblucky, Tepe it's

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12,000 years old.
In fact the farther you dig the

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more intricate the designs are
of the of the grand structures

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that they built.
I I tend to think maybe they

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were trying to preserve it.
I was also reading the Arancha

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book today, which something I
hadn't really noticed before,

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but they said there was a great
climactic change that occurred

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around 1012 thousand BC.
It had to do with glaciers

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advancing, winds shifting,
because up to that time the

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Mesopotamian and valleys were
like the fruited plains of the

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United States.
There was pastoral living, there

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was agricultural living.
It led to the advancement of

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culture in China and in Western
China and Tibet.

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So all of this portends to the
fact that we are the offspring

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of a one time advancing civil
civilization that that came here

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to uplift us biologically and
spiritually.

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And so that's the whole point of
this conversation that you and I

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are having.
Nobody seems able to connect the

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dots that all these ancient
aliens were actually spiritual

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in nature, I believe.
And whoever we're dealing with

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now may very well be aliens from
another world.

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Maybe, but I don't know if
they're part of that.

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The the group of this seraphic
governments the most highs.

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You know what I'm saying?
I, I, I, I have trouble

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connecting the the aliens that
we're talking to today,

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supposedly.
What's their connection to the

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Seraphic government?
What's their what's their

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connection to Michael?
What's their connection to melt

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the Melchizedeks?
Any ideas on that?

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Yeah.
So those those are great

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questions.
And I I I want to go back just

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real quickly to a comment you
just made about all of these

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advanced civilizations or these
advanced groups of of human race

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as being spiritual.
Certainly the original intent

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when Callagasky arrived half a
million years ago with his staff

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was to uplift human civilization
not only through advancement in

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culture and technology and and
such, but also imparting basic

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spiritual truths.
Now as we know in the rebellion

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200,000 years ago that went awry
and it was intentionally

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distorted and it it resulted in
chaos on this planet and and

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basically took all the
advancements that had been made

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among Earth humanity in that
that you know Middle East region

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and totally retarded it total
retrograde.

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So now humanity devolves back
into barbarism, except for those

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pockets of civilization where
they they maintained some

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cohesion, some culture, some
spiritual awareness and and they

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were able to continue to
propagate some of those

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spiritual troops.
But that was spotty at best.

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And a lot of those, lot of those
succeeding blended races of

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these, these ten different races
that emerged with the Andites

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being the last of those 10
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You know a lot of the of the
spiritual wisdom had gone into

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complete darkness.
So we see all the wars, we we

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see all the competition, we see
the extinction of the orange

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race and the green race, the
submergence of of other races.

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So you know that there was a lot
of non spiritual activity going

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on, you know, through throughout
that time.

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Although the intent, the
original intent was to uplift us

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with with a real solid spiritual
truth, Now I think you know,

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coming, you know, to later
times, you know, when we have

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these, these observations of,
OK, we've got apparent UFOs,

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apparent extraterrestrial
visitation going back at least

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decades, if not hundreds or
thousands of years.

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What's the connection?
Well, what if you look at what

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the Urantia Book has to say
about life carriers.

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You know, not only did we have
life carriers appear on this

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planet, you know, a billion
years ago and established life

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here on this planet 600 years or
600 million years ago according

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to the Urantia Book, but they
remain on the planet, a core of

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14 life carriers that are here,
still here right now.

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Those beings are not just
spiritual or mirantial.

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They have the ability to to
exist in a third phase that is

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actually physical.
And that's because they have to

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have the ability to actually do
physical experimentation,

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biological manipulation, genetic
engineering and such.

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So they have laboratories,
physical laboratories.

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They have to transport those
laboratories from the the

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universe headquarters to this
planet.

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And the, the book says that the
life experimentation that was

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done by the life curious for
this planet were actually done

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on this planet.
Meaning they had physical

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laboratories here.
While those don't just magically

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appear out of, you know, out of
the ethers, those had to be

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transported here with real
physical craft.

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OK, So that means, you know,
from our standpoint, that would

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have been a UFO.
OK, An actual physical craft

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with physical stuff,
Instruments, you know,

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experiments, you know, chemical
chemistry going on.

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All all this stuff you know, as
well as who the support staff

453
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,720
would have been, might have
included engineers,

454
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,040
electrochemists, all kinds of
things.

455
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,280
Who had who had high, high skill
and competency in genetic

456
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,320
engineering?
You know I say that whenever

457
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,440
real quick as a as sort of a
illustration, Joel.

458
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:24,200
I say that typically when we as
humans go out and survey an area

459
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,840
that we're about to say build up
a mall, who goes out there

460
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,040
first?
The people that measure, the

461
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,920
people that try to figure out
where the where the poles going

462
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,600
to go, where's the electricity
going to go, where's the sewage

463
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,560
in the pipes.
There's there's always these

464
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,520
preliminary groups.
And I would suspect in our early

465
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,640
ages there were advanced
spiritual Asians sometimes who

466
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,640
could make themselves in
physical form, who would come

467
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,040
here and laid the groundwork,
which is what they did for the

468
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,600
Garden of Eden.
They assembled a group of people

469
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,640
who would go out and prepare the
garden so that when Adam and Eve

470
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,600
could arrive, then they could
begin to transform humanity.

471
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,800
Which is what they intended to
do, yeah.

472
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,600
We would call, we would call
those civil engineers, These are

473
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,520
the ones who plan the
infrastructure, right.

474
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,440
So, so there's a parallel to
that.

475
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,840
You know, you, you look, you
look kind of next, you know, So

476
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:22,760
when we hear these accounts,
these witness testimonies,

477
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:27,520
including all the contactees out
there, and there are millions of

478
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,040
humans who claim to be
contactees not just here in the

479
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,560
United States, but around the
world.

480
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,840
And I have met many, many of
these personally have had had

481
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,120
discussions with them.
I've heard their stories.

482
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,760
Some of the stories are are very
encouraging, some of them are

483
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,240
traumatic.
But these are just regular

484
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,720
people who have who have a very
life changing and profound story

485
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,440
to tell.
And you know and there are again

486
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,640
millions of people who claim to
be contactees, meaning they've

487
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:01,640
had, they've had direct
interaction with with beings not

488
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,440
native to this planet.
Now one of the things you come

489
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:09,239
across routinely is that there
there are descriptions primarily

490
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,120
of two types of beings, these
grey type of beings, you know,

491
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:17,320
relatively small the the kind of
bug eyed type that we've all

492
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,560
seen, you know.
Kind of classic that you'd.

493
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:24,760
Be yes, then you also have what
are described as the Nordics

494
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:31,679
tall, blonde, blue eyed,
beautiful people.

495
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:39,120
OK highly intelligent and and
who seem to have control over

496
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,760
these grey beings.
OK well so who are these

497
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,080
Nordics?
Well, that those kind of fit the

498
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:51,080
description of what the Urantia
book calls the material sons and

499
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:56,639
daughters or the atomites it, it
describes them very well.

500
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,680
Well, what might the material
sons and daughters be doing here

501
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,320
on, you know, extraterrestrial
visitations to this planet?

502
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,760
Well, there's could be a number
of things.

503
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,560
Are they doing surveys or they,
are they doing kind of like

504
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:19,520
biological inspections of the
progress of of humanity and our

505
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,640
genetics?
Are they supervising what the

506
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,280
what the impacts have been of
radiation on this planet?

507
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,200
Of the chemicals that are
saturating our environment?

508
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,760
Of the pollution in the
biosphere?

509
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,080
Of of the effects of
electromagnetic exposure that

510
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,800
that virtually all humans have
by way of of all of our our

511
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,840
electromagnetic infrastructure
including our cell phones

512
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,360
computers all this stuff all of
which effects our biology.

513
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:57,280
So are they monitoring us and
and doing that monitoring

514
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,120
through the type of well what
what's been known as the

515
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:07,840
abductee phenomenon where people
are taken and and these

516
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,080
experiments are done that often
are traumatic in nature.

517
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,400
And again I've heard many of
these personal accounts of of

518
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,560
these type of things.
You know are they doing that are

519
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,320
they doing that under a
benevolent purpose.

520
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,000
Is there something else going
on.

521
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:33,600
Are these perhaps just visitors
who are here observing and

522
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,120
they're interested they're
scientifically interested

523
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,240
because this planet is a decimal
planet meaning it's a life

524
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:44,120
modification sphere.
This is the planet where where

525
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,600
where Michael the creator son,
incarnated.

526
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,120
It's also of interest because it
it, it has a an Archangel

527
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,560
divisional headquarters on all
kinds of reasons that that

528
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,440
advanced beings from elsewhere
would have interest in this

529
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,120
planet.
So.

530
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,960
So who are they?
What is their purpose?

531
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:06,800
It's it's a bit murky.
It's hard to to know exactly

532
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,200
what it is.
But what is clear is that

533
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:14,600
there's there are abductee
experiences, their experiments

534
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,960
done on the human beings who are
who are taken and there's a

535
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,520
hybridization program that's
going on.

536
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:30,760
It's active OK where where human
women are impregnated and and

537
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:38,880
basically just states you know
fetuses that aren't fully earth

538
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,320
human.
And there's all kinds of

539
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,520
accounts of this and and I
believe this is, this is a a

540
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,880
very real program that's been
going on for a long time at

541
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,800
least, you know, many decades,
several generations.

542
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,240
Yeah, now you know, and my
doctor wants me to do this 4 * a

543
00:37:57,240 --> 00:38:00,440
year, going for a blood test and
roll your sleeve up.

544
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:05,240
And so why wouldn't an advanced
race of people also want to keep

545
00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:09,280
tabs on our whatever they're
looking for, right?

546
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,400
They want to see how we're
doing, how we're progressing.

547
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,160
It's very fascinating, yeah.
Yeah.

548
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,640
And the concept of hybridization
is not new, because that's what

549
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:23,600
the whole Adamic purpose was,
was for.

550
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,840
For the direct descendants of
Adam and Eve to increase in

551
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,640
number to somewhere between a
half million and a million

552
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,600
Direct Line descendants.
This is the violent race.

553
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:40,160
And then they were to go out and
interbreed with the evolutionary

554
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,560
human races.
Not Adam and Eve directly, but

555
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,880
their their progeny, right?
Yeah, yes, exactly.

556
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:52,240
And that would produce a hybrid
race of of the of the Violet

557
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:55,920
race, the Adamites and the
evolutionary humans, which were

558
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:01,400
the the six saying it races plus
the Andonite race.

559
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:09,920
And that would have given new
biological endowments to that

560
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,800
hybrid race, which would have
include higher intelligence, a a

561
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:19,240
better physique, higher
spiritual capacity, you know,

562
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:24,640
increased lifespan, increased
resistance to disease, all of

563
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,280
these benefits that would have
come from that hybridization

564
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,800
program.
And of course, as we know, with

565
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,960
the default of Adam and Eve,
that whole program went awry.

566
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:40,000
So again it became very spotty
where those those enhanced

567
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:45,840
genetic endowments occurred and
and it was not uniformly

568
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:51,920
distributed through all of the
races of the the evolutionary

569
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,320
humans it was it was
concentrated in generally the

570
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,720
what they called the the primary
sangak races.

571
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,520
And so it was not a uniform
endowment and that that has been

572
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:08,760
part of the problem as well.
In in what happens in later

573
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,400
times with the subjugation of
certain races by other races,

574
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,080
because they couldn't compete,
they couldn't compete

575
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,160
intellectually, technologically.
And so you know what's going to

576
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,680
happen in those cases, because
we have all kinds of examples in

577
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,440
human history, what happens when
a more technologically advanced

578
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:32,120
group contacts one that is less
advanced.

579
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,040
It's very predictable what
happens.

580
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,760
One of them gets subjugated by
the other.

581
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,760
Or destroyed.
Yes.

582
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,600
Or destroyed completely and it's
happened many many times.

583
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,640
And let me also add, just if you
look again going back to the

584
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:50,200
timeline, you really start to
see the nucleus in my opinion

585
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:55,440
the nucleus of the atom effect
on humanity around 5000 BC

586
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,520
because that's when we started
to make the transition to more

587
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,920
of a herder.
Our food sources became better,

588
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,520
we we were more organized.
It was the beginnings of trade.

589
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:11,000
So you you right about when the
Adamic line or the Andite line

590
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:16,800
starts to almost become non
effective, it's when you start

591
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:21,320
to see the emergence of human
civilization and now we're in

592
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,000
that process.
I I think we're still early in

593
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,360
that process because you know
5-10 thousand years is nothing

594
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,840
when you when you think about
the fact that humanity has been

595
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,480
around for a million.
So we've been in existence for a

596
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,600
million years, but only in the
last 5000 have we started to

597
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,680
really evolve towards what we
would consider to be a

598
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,960
progressive civilization and
what what was the thing, what

599
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,040
was the igniter, what started
the fire?

600
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,440
And I'll say it again, because I
think it's important we are the

601
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,160
descendants, or at least we have
been interbred with a

602
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,000
spiritually advanced
civilization that brought their

603
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,640
seed here.
They brought their genetic

604
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,240
contribution here.
And we are the end result.

605
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,320
And I think that is that is a
headline I and I'm not sure how

606
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,720
it ties into the ancient Aliens.
But I think you've done a good

607
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:11,400
job, Joel.
And I also think there's a bit

608
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,680
of irony to this whole thing
because the number one company

609
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,280
in the world today to care to
take a guess what it is.

610
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,480
Well, it's it's probably Tesla.
No, no, It's apple.

611
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,680
And the and the story of the
apple goes back to the

612
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,280
beginnings of when the garden
fell and Adam and Eve were here.

613
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,320
And yet here is this symbol of
the apple, the the, the, the

614
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,280
fruit of knowledge.
Where did that knowledge come

615
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,800
from?
Of course, the narrative in the

616
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,040
Bible is that Eve was tempted to
eat from the apple, and she

617
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,280
wasn't supposed to.
But I still think it's

618
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,760
interesting that the apple is a
symbol of the modern age, and

619
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:57,080
that's where all of our real
growth started to come from, so.

620
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,680
And it's technological, right?
It's technological story.

621
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,600
Well look, we've been, we've
been yapping for quite a bit you

622
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,440
want to bring this to a close
here and.

623
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,280
I I do, I do.
I kind of want to circle back

624
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,000
real quick just to that bigger
question about why the

625
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,680
suppression of the the
Pentagon's involvement,

626
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,280
awareness and active
participation in this whole

627
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:31,440
phenomenon of of UFOET.
Well, look that that technology

628
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:38,680
exists, including free energy
technology, advanced propulsion

629
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:44,160
technology that can carry humans
to the stars.

630
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,760
That technology exists.
So what do we hear every day?

631
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:56,360
Climate change crisis, Energy
crisis, countries at war over

632
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,920
resources.
All of these things that if the

633
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:09,760
if what is what the military and
its allies have essentially kept

634
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:14,080
in secret as far as
technological developments that

635
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:20,080
could have a profound positive
social effect for the world at

636
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,720
large.
If those technologies were to be

637
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,640
brought out rather than
sequestered in black budget

638
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,480
programs, there would be no
energy crisis warring over

639
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,680
resources.
All of these other false

640
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:39,760
narratives about, you know,
climate emergency, pollution

641
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:44,840
everywhere, those things could
be addressed very, very quickly.

642
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:50,840
And that it is not being rolled
out to the public even though we

643
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,720
taxpayers have funded these
covert programs.

644
00:44:54,440 --> 00:45:00,320
This is serious evil and I, I
I'll really emphasize that there

645
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:07,560
is serious, at least human evil
that has been going on here

646
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,440
because we are living in this
time.

647
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,720
Everything's a crisis.
Everyone is always kept on edge

648
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,920
by all the propaganda that we
see out there.

649
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:24,120
The this is by design.
It's meant to keep us agitated

650
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:28,000
and angry.
Suspicious and and add each

651
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,360
other in division.
Rather than coming together and

652
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:36,000
and advancing as a global
culture that could alleviate

653
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:41,480
these problems and it and get to
the core truth about what's

654
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:46,120
going on with our history here,
because that has been obscured

655
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,840
from us on purpose.
The Urantia Book shines a bright

656
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:58,160
light on these things and it is
it is such a a worthy and noble

657
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:04,400
endeavor to become aware first
for oneself and then to share

658
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,560
that information with other
people so they can see what's

659
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:13,200
going on in present times with
much better context.

660
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:19,800
A a historical context and a
spiritual mindset that shows how

661
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,440
it all the the full tapestry is
is working.

662
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,240
Together couldn't have said it
better myself.

663
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,720
Joel Garvin our guest here on
the Rancher Radio Podcast and I

664
00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:32,160
look forward to our next
discussion.

665
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,440
I think you left a little bit
there that we can continue in

666
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,840
our next discussion about what
these energy sources are.

667
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,400
And and with that, Joel, I wish
you Godspeed and I look forward

668
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,400
to our next conversation here.
Thank you, Jim.

669
00:46:44,600 --> 00:47:00,160
You take care
the.