What's The Deal Jesus

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Couple of footnotes before we
begin here on the Rancho Radio

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podcast where we talk about the
fifth epical revelation.

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The revelation.
I got a an e-mail from someone

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saying I'm not saying it right.
Why we say the epical

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revelation?
I like the word epical.

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I don't like the word epochal.
I've asked people, hey, is it

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epical or epochal?
It's just a matter of

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preference.
It's like some people say

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nephilim, I say I say Nephilim,
other people say Nephilim, some

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people say norlichedek, others
say Norlitiadek.

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I guess it's just a matter of
preference, but I always

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appreciate the e-mail and we do
have a lot of good e-mail, a

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good listener e-mail that I'll
go to some of these great

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questions.
And you can always send me an

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e-mail if you have a question
about the Urantia book.

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And if I don't have the answer,
I'll find it.

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And that's easy.
urantiabookradio@gmail.com.

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So thank you.
We've got some interesting sound

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clips.
It's also the week of Easter,

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which we celebrate the birth and
the resurrection and the life of

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Christ.
So we'll spend a little bit of

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time on all of this.
I read, I was reading through

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the week, the last days of
Jesus's life.

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And I just finished reading the
Last Supper and it's, it's a

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really, it's worth going back to
and reading and learning some

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lessons, some very important key
lessons that have been lost in

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time.
And chief among them, just

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briefly, because it is Easter
week and we do celebrate the the

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promise kept.
And one of the passages

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curiously, was that the
formality of the Last Supper is

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pretty much time honored and
celebrated across all the major

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Christian faiths.
There's no question the Last

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Supper is is practiced almost to
a what they call a mathematical

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precision.
And it was exactly the opposite

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that the Urantia book revelators
tell us of why Jesus wanted to

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have this Last Supper with his
12 apostles.

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And I had forgotten that he
wanted to dispel of all

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formality when it came to
religious practice.

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And I understand why he, he
chose that path because he

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ultimately wanted religion to be
a natural part of your life, not

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something separate or in
addition to or separate from.

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But the, the whole idea of
living in the spiritual Kingdom

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is that you accept your
citizenship, you accept your

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sonship, and then you go about
living your life in this new

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paradigm.
And that's what Jesus always

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taught that religion, for
example, if you're a vegan, if

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you're a vegan, it, it's a
natural part of your lifestyle

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to just not eat meat.
And when you're, when you're a

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person of religious faith, you
go about your life living as a

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person of faith and you have a
better hopefully understanding

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of things that are going on
around you.

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The relationships that you have
are, are based on loyalty,

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fidelity, trust.
And these are things that come

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about because of the moral
nature.

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The morality and spirituality
are are very intertwined. 1

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tends to produce the
characteristics of morality and

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morality helps you to appreciate
spirituality in all of its

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forms.
So in in doing the Last Supper,

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he said, Remember Me breaking
the bread, Remember Me drinking

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the wine.
And it was intended.

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And when I had forgotten this to
Freeman from the the symbols and

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the rituals.
And it's sad that the exact

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opposite happened because now
we've formalized and

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crystallized the Last Supper
into a ceremony when Jesus's

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intent was to have a special
occasion for his apostles.

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Remember Me?
So it's just a a bit of irony,

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but let me get to some of the
listeners.

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Then we'll get to some of the
interesting sound.

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I've got some great e-mail.
This one gentleman emailed me

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last night and I hope I got it.
I think it's over here.

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And he talks about how in paper
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kind of focusing on the moon
right now with the Artemis and

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the Orion and all the crew
members.

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Very exciting times, no
question.

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And so because we're all
focusing on the moon, this one

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listener wrote me, he's a
relatively new reader, 32 year

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old.
And he says to me, you know, I,

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I'm not reconciled on an
explanation about the moon and

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the earth.
And, and he says we've been

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taught and science tells us that
the moon actually broke off and

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was at one point a part of the
earth and that it doesn't jive

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with, with the fact that it has,
I think he said a rotation.

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And of course, you know, as I
try to find the, the e-mail, I

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can't because I don't want to
miss the essence of what he oh,

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here it is from Lucas.
He writes, he writes the Urantia

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book describes the moon as
forming from the earth, spinning

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so rapidly that material was
ejected and eventually became

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the moon rather than forming
from a collision.

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And he quotes paper 57, six
paragraph two.

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He says, however, from what I
understand, very few celestial

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bodies are capable of spinning
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something the size of any Earth.
Given that early Earth would

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have been mostly molten and
unstable, it seems more likely

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that it would have been.
It would have been disrupted

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entirely by centrifugal force
rather than ejecting a single

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coherent mass.
And then he says, do you have

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any thoughts on this?
How do I reconcile this?

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Well, it's in the details.
See, the Urantia book is very

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clear about some things that it
can disclose because of its

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mandate.
And so sometimes what you think

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that you read is not actually
what you read.

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For example, there's a lot of
controversy over the fact that

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there's a paragraph in that same
section where it talks about how

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Mercury and the Moon both are
always faced towards the same

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side toward the the either the
Earth or the Sun.

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However, it doesn't actually say
that.

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It's tricky and if I have time
I'll explain it, but to Lucas's

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point, the Urantia book doesn't
say that Earth and the moon were

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part of the same globular
coherent mass that ejected from

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the sun.
In fact, it only references that

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the planets came the that they
were a result of the Angonas

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system that was drawing off of
the material of the sun and some

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of it had is had escaped its
gravitational pull.

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And those the collections of
early solar mass eventually

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became what was then the 12
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And I would assume that that
includes also the material that

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makes the moon, because the
Urantia book says that all of

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the, the globular bodies were
part of that mass that were were

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drawn off by the gravitational
pull of the passing system, what

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they refer to as in gonna.
But it doesn't say that the

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moon, the, the, the mass that
makes up the moon was disgorged

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from Earth.
And I've read through that a

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couple of times.
So I would say to Lucas, I

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believe what they were
intimating was that the moon was

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its own collection of mass, not
quite large enough to set out on

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its own path, but that it was,
it was captured by the the mass

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of the Earth because it was
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What it does not say is that the
moon came from the Earth.

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What it does say is that the
Earth came from that ejection of

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solar mass in response to the
gravitational pull of the

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passing Angonas system.
So it's slight, it's subtle, but

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it's specific.
And so I also add to this

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question, we've all been taught
in science that the moon came

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from Earth.
It's true.

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It's literally true.
I remember being taught this in,

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you know, elementary school.
But that's not true because we

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haven't ever been able to prove
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You know, so the assumption is
when you're reading this paper

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is that, oh, the moon must have
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the Earth.
I'm I'm inclined to believe that

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the mass that was ejected from
the sun, a greater portion of it

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became Earth and a separate but
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the moon.
And that's why the Earth ended

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up becoming much larger because
it was attracting more

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meteorites and asteroids through
that 200,000 year period around

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4,000,000 years ago.
So I hope I've answered the

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question, and if there is an
astronomer out there, you can

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either concur with me or correct
me, but I think I've got that

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right.
OK, So what else have people

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been writing about?
Guy turned me on to a new book

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by this man called Ernest
Holmes, and he wrote this book

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called Science of Mind back in
the 60s, but he was around in

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the 40s.
Actually, I think he went back

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as far as the 20s.
Ernest Holmes.

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And it's a great read.
I've started to read it.

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It's very much in the way that
the Arantia book describes mind

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and matter and materialism, and
it's very interesting and it

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makes me think that maybe Ernest
might have been part of one of

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those groups, you know, of the
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I don't know if anybody would
know that.

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Maybe we could look back through
and see if the name Ernest

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Holmes pops up.
But his book is really good and

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it's it it might be a good way
to introduce this whole concept

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of the difference between the
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But he it's very good read and I
would recommend it to you called

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the science of Mind by Ernest
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So thanks to my good buddy out
there, Charles, for turning on

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me to that.
Neil Tolin writes he wants to

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know about Melchizedek.
He's a good long time reader,

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been part of of the many, many
episodes, always has something

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interesting to say and he talks
about is it Melchizedek?

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He wants to know about
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He wants to know when he when I
think that's going to happen is

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milk.
Some people say he's already

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he's he's still part of the and
we're talking specifically about

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macho Venta Melchizedek and he
is the sage of Salem mentioned

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in Genesis.
He is the mentor of Abraham, the

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instigator of most of the modern
religions today.

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Going back to the teachings of
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He was an emergency son.
They had petitioned at the time

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around 2000 BC that the idea of
one God, the light of life, was

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disappearing from the mind of
humanity and that the the 12

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receivers who basically took
over the world after the Lucifer

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rebellion in Calagasia was no
longer in charge.

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They had petitioned the most
highs of adventures saying, you

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know, we've got a little problem
here on earth.

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They're kind of regressing.
Maybe it's time to inject a

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little truth into these these
folks and keep them on the right

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path because we know that in at
some point, the Son of God,

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Michael is going to be making
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So we need to prepare the way
that that's the essence of the

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story.
What's interesting is that he is

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still part of the receivership
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He's been at least at this
point, assigned to the four and

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20 elders.
And as, as some of us know, in

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that group, they serve as
advisors and, and they include

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the illustrious Adam and Eve.
Moses is on the committee.

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Enoch is on the committee.
I mean, these are these are

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celebs, spiritual celebrities,
the ones that didn't make the 24

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elders that are mentioned in
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Interesting.
I would have thought Abraham,

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but maybe they have better plans
for him.

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And there's also the question of
will Adam and Eve return and

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bring them their children that
had left after the fall of the

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first Eden?
And that I think is is equally

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likely.
I've given lots of thought to

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the reappearance of Melchizedek.
I think that would be time to

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occur, to again prepare the way
for Christ, the return of the

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second coming of Christ, which
is in a far distant future,

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maybe a few 1000 years from now,
Who knows?

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But I don't think that
Melchizedek will come until we

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are spiritually at that level
where we would understand what

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and who he is.
And the reason for that is

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because, you know, all things
being equal, And it breaks my

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heart to have to say this
because I've said it before, but

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when they sent us or when
Michael chose this world, he

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must have had the wisdom to know
how it was going to end.

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We were either going to receive
him and accept him or we would

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reject him.
And, and it makes me so angry

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that that we have never really,
how do I say this in a way that

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isn't insensitive because I know
the people that love Christ and,

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and the resurrection.
It's so special.

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Easter is my favorite holiday.
It always has been because of

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the fact of what it represents,
which is the promise, the

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promise that there is eternal
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There's not a man on this earth.
If they were to ask, well, what

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makes you think there's such a
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Well, we've got evidence 1000 or
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resurrected Christ and, and some
of us atheists and some of these

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materialists, Oh, well, that's
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They just made all that stuff.
And it would have to be the

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biggest conspiracy ever to
perpetuate a lie that Christ did

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not resurrect that day after a
couple days after he was hung

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from a cross.
The first part of that story is

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the religious rulers and even
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rejected the man.
They rejected him.

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They rejected God.
They rejected the truth that he

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was willing to share.
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does come, all of a sudden
everybody's like, oh, yeah,

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well, you know, I believed in
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Yeah.
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I remember when none of them
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None of them did for weeks.
The apostles were downtrodden

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and they couldn't leave and they
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get jumped and and the, the, the
mobs were going to, it was a

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horrible, horrible, aside from
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remained the women's evangelical
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It took a little while for
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mention he was coming back.
That's right.

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He did say he was going to lay
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again.
And it's a, it's a shame on this

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world that that is our legacy,
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I mean, the legacy of this
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last bestowal, the, the probably
the equally one of the most

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important bestowals, that of
being the last in the, in the

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son of man chain as a material
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Every other bestowal they
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He'd, he'd do his bestowals as a
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And then he did it as a Lana
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And he did it as a, as an
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Maranche immortal.
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bestowals, you know, Michael
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the, the Salvington table and
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So what are you so amazed about?
This is my job.

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I'm supposed to do this.
I, I love you.

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I want to get to know you.
I want to know what it's like to

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be as I've made you to be.
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they welcomed him back.
They celebrated him.

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Oh no, not on Urantia, though.
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I mean, he wanted the the worst
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But it's on us.
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him.
He could have hung out a little

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bit longer.
He could have been on the earth

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10 years, 15 years, he could
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I mean, there were a lot of
restrictions and the main point

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of Jesus's trip was to reveal
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as best he he could.
But the the truth is at the end

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of the day, we rejected him.
And the and the same people that

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would reject Christ 2000 years
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would reject the Melchizedek.
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Antichrist.
You'd have a group of Christians

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acting just the way that the
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the Pharisees did in the days of
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The same attitude.
In fact, it's worse now because

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now people, they just laugh at
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Oh, what are you a man of
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Are you a man of reason?
What is this?

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You know this fool of stuff that
you and and that has not the

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attitude hasn't changed and look
at the way that we run our

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governments look at the way that
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Look at the way that we run
everything that we run and ask

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yourself, are we truly living,
You know, with the rules of

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conduct that we're and even the
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not ever seriously given the
philosophy of living as Jesus

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taught it in motion in Paper
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It talks about what a great
opportunity it is now that we

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have within the presence of
humanity, the actual life and

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teachings of Jesus.
Every single person can pick up

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the book.
They don't have to have a priest

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explain it to them.
They don't have to memorize all

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the passages from the Bible.
And I'm not saying anything bad

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about the Bible.
It's scripture, it's what it is.

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It took a long time to get here
and it carries, thank God, most

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of the important truths.
But now we have even an enlarged

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revelation and how do we treat
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You know, so that's where we're
at and, and all the more reason

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for people to think about the
future and where we're headed

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Now, if Melchizedek were to
show, what would be the reason?

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Would it be to save ourselves
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Would that be the reason that a
Melchizedek and his 11.

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Melchizedek receivers would
appear in the sky and maybe

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above the clouds and make this
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Would that be it?
Would it be that the revelation

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is that a lot of these UFOs are
in fact spiritual beings that

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are here to tell us, hey, guess
what we're here is?

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Is that how they would reveal
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What would be the purpose of
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What would his reason for for to
prepare the way for the second

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coming.
Well, many of us already know

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about the second coming, so we
have to think about where would

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man have to be in order to reap
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visitation of either a
Melchizedek or perhaps another

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magisterial son that we haven't
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Is that possible?
Maybe there would be a, a whole

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new personality that would be
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it's the unknowable.
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Christ said he would return, but
he would come at a time when we

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would all receive him.
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Unfortunately, we still have our
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OK, so we've gone into all that.
Let's get into some of the sound

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bites that are out there on
social media and we our response

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is based on the perspective of a
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So here we go with the first
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Archangel Gabriel Gabriel,
Archangel Michael.

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When they talk, look, listen to
them, they say.

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I, the Archangel Gabriel, who
stands in the presence of God.

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I, the Archangel Michael, who
stands in the presence of God.

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And you go to Revelation chapter
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The 24 elders is the Church of
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and the Old Testament.
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Who are the old, the Church of
Christ, the human beings, people

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made out of dust.
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And I saw the 24 elders sitting
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standing.
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Because the sun sits while Daddy
stands.

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But how dare a servant sit in
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Their head will be chopped and
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But he makes some interesting
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the spiritual personalities.
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and Gabriel.
Not sure if I have an opinion as

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much as I like hearing him talk
about that because not those two

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personalities don't get their
their credit for what they what

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what who they are and what
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Let's listen to this.
If Jesus is also God, who was he

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praying to?
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Trinity is God the Father, God
the Son, God the Holy Spirit, 3

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persons, one God.
What's interesting, Jesus at one

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point, shortly before he was
killed, got up before a group

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and he said I and the Father are
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But the Greek word for one there
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Which means Jesus was not saying
I and the Father are the same

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person.
He was saying I and the Father

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are the same thing.
We're one in nature.

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We're one in essence and that's
why people picked up stones to

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kill him because they said
you're just a man and you're

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claiming to be God.
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You go to John 14 just a couple
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you've seen me, you've seen the
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the beginning and the end.
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Trinity has got the Father, God
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You know they're.
Still arguing about this today,

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even online, just about that
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It's the Trinity concept is
still very difficult, but

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thankfully we have books like
the Urantia book, which actually

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explain the Trinity in full
detail in the 1st 12 papers of

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the book.
And then you walk and then you

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have an understanding of the
role of the group, the deity

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group, the Trinity versus the
different aspects of of deity

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that all work for each other.
So you have mind, matter,

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spirit, they all work together
as a cohesive force, deities,

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all of those things.
I mean, to me, it's like, I get

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it.
I, I get the Trinity.

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I understand the role that the
infinite spirit plays as the

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conjoint actor and the lineage
of the, the infinite spirit and

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her daughters of the infinite
spirit, the creative's daughter

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spirits.
And then you've got the sons and

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that lineage.
You've got the creator sons,

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you've got the Leninandek sons,
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So to me it's, it's, it's clear.
And then the different agencies

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that work on behalf of the
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So you've got the mighty
messengers who who work on

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behalf of the sun.
And then you've got the, the

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master physical controllers who
work under the direction of, of

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the God of matter, the master
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I mean, it's amazing how God has
set this up and it's the

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symmetry is just absolutely
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And it's unfortunate that more
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don't understand that it's
within this Trinity that makes

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this God the supreme, even
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All these different converging
infinite forces working together

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in the evolution of the of the
universe.

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It's like music.
It's like a Symphony, I think.

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All right, let's let's let's
take a look at this one.

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This is from Shawn Ryan.
Why they're so?

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Driven to rebuild the temple.
So we're the chosen people now.

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Anybody who believes in Christ,
that's chosen, that's.

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Right, which is actually the big
mistake that people make is

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still thinking the Jews are the
chosen people.

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They were, but they rejected
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They refused to accept Christ
because even the Jewish religion

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was ultimately a lead up to and
a partial revelation in

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relationship to Christ.
So once he came, This is why

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Christ was so harsh on them.
The first time I read this I was

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stunned.
St.

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Thomas Aquinas actually makes
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He said that the prophets and
the patriarchs of the Jews

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actually they knew that God was
triune and they knew he was

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going to become Incarnate.
They knew this we see this in

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the book of Isaiah.
It's revealed in the book of

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Isaiah and it's revealed in in
various parts of Scripture that

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they then so the Jews actually
knew this.

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This is why Christ was so harsh
on the Jews that when he came,

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he said he guys shouldn't you
guys knew this.

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You know you're calling me that
that make myself evil that the

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son of God.
You knew that God was going to

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become Incarnate.
It's basically what's being

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taught there.
So the fact that they

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apostasized and rejected
ultimately God in the end, which

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is why God gives them that.
As I mentioned before, he gives

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them a one generation.
So after Christ dies in the year

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70 AD, the Romans destroy
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And that's why now the Jews
aren't.

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None of the Jews are practicing
their religion because none of

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them are offering sacrifice.
That doesn't mean that they're

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not living up according to
certain parts of the Old

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Testament and things of that
sort, but they're not actually

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performing the ceremonial laws.
Interesting.

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And that's why they're so driven
to rebuild the Temple.

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Now, I don't know about all that
stuff about building.

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That's by the way, that were the
the person was speaking with

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Father Chad Reperger and the
show was the Shaun Ryan show.

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And elements of that are
obviously accurate because we

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know that when Jesus came, as I
mentioned in the first part of

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this podcast, that the, the
authorities, the religious

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authorities rejected Christ.
And we know why.

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I mean, it would be obviously
was a threat to their power

449
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,920
structure.
So that's that's what we know

450
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,520
now, unfortunately, it's tragic
because historically the Jews

451
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,600
have been blamed about this for
decades in millennia.

452
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,920
So I don't want to dig up old
wounds, but we understand that,

453
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,760
yes.
And, and even the Urantia book

454
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is specific that while the Jews
were not quote the chosen people

455
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,440
as depicted in the Old
Testament, Abraham most

456
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,920
certainly was a chosen
individual.

457
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,560
Melchizedek single handedly
pointed this out in in the

458
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,200
Urantia book.
It talks about how the

459
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:41,320
Melchizedeks had been observing
the genetic history of Abraham

460
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:45,800
and his ancestors and they were
expecting that at some point a

461
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,280
man of great nobility and
intelligence would be born into

462
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,000
this family.
And it turned out to be Abraham.

463
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,760
And Abraham carried the he
carried the truth.

464
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,760
Remember, the story is that
Melchizedek was here to prepare

465
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,120
the way because he knew that
Michael was going to be

466
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,920
incarnated on this planet.
I mean, that knowledge had been

467
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,520
around since back in Adam and
Eve's day, but the truth had

468
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,360
been lost through time.
And so it was up to Abraham and

469
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,160
his offspring to continue this
truth so that they would be

470
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:25,480
prepared, the Jewish people, for
the appearance of of the Creator

471
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,560
Son, the bestowal son.
And then unfortunately, we all

472
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,160
know how it ended.
Another another fascinating clip

473
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,400
here for you.
Who was the 1st to witness?

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00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,680
The Resurrection.
All four.

475
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,120
Gospels talk about women being
among the first to experience

476
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,160
and see Jesus Christ after the
resurrection.

477
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,400
Luke's account specifically
mentions a group of women at the

478
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,400
tomb, including Mary Magdalene,
Joanna, and Mary, the mother of

479
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,200
James.
Matthew goes a little deeper and

480
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,760
says it was Mary Magdalene and
the other Mary that first

481
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,600
encountered Jesus together after
leaving the tomb.

482
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,280
Mark's account, though it's a
little questionable, states that

483
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,760
Jesus appeared first to Mary
Magdalene, but it's John that

484
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:08,800
really zooms in and focuses on
Mary Magdalene as the very first

485
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,880
one to encounter Jesus.
She first mistakes him for the

486
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,320
gardener, then realizes who
Jesus is, calls him out by name,

487
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,640
and is sent out by Jesus to go
and declare his resurrection to

488
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,280
the other apostles.
It's why the Eastern Orthodox

489
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,800
Church and the Roman Catholic
Church both call her the Apostle

490
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,600
to the Apostles, because she was
the very first person to bring

491
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,720
the message of the resurrection
to the Apostle.

492
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,600
And that is from the Awakening
Media Company talking about the

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00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,520
first person to see the risen
Jesus after the resurrection.

494
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,280
And I'm also very happy that the
Arantia book goes to great

495
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:50,120
lengths to talk about not only
how Jesus treated women during

496
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,160
an age when women were not
treated very well and how he

497
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,920
rose them up and gave them
dignity.

498
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,000
And then it's also important
that they were so instrumental

499
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,120
in the early spread of of
Jesus's teachings, the women's

500
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,400
evangelical core.
And it's sad to report that

501
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,520
history completely omitted them
from Scripture, from the

502
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,680
gospels.
But what I can report is for

503
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:19,720
women who want to know how
Christ treated women in his age

504
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,440
and certainly how Adam and Eve
coexisted.

505
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,240
And then if you want to get
really down and dirty, read

506
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,520
about what is it the they do it
every year.

507
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:37,960
What is that event?
And it occurs right after the

508
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,920
final resurrection, the final
bestowal, the Jubilee, the

509
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,080
Jubilee of Jubilees.
That's what it is.

510
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,360
All right, so let's see what
this I started going to that

511
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,800
empty Catholic Church and I
would sit in the back Pew and I

512
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,960
would argue with the crucifix
every day I would be there and I

513
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,200
would tell Jesus, you're not the
Son of God because there is no

514
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,880
Son of God.
Why are you doing this to me?

515
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,680
Leave me alone.
And I would just be angry.

516
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,160
And I would say that to him.
And then I'd tell him about my

517
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,960
day.
And by the time I walked out, I

518
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,400
had peace and I would show up
the next day.

519
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,040
And I was in marketing.
So I had Jesus on my schedule

520
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,040
every single day except on
Sunday because Sundays people

521
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,360
went to church and I couldn't go
in.

522
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,160
So I wasn't happy about it.
So I couldn't wait for Monday to

523
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,920
go tell him he's not the Son of
God.

524
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,480
And so I did that every single
day.

525
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,320
You're not the Son of God.
And months went by with this

526
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,920
argument, and finally one day
God had enough of me.

527
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,200
And I walked into that church
again, alone, empty church, sat

528
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,640
down, and I started, You're not
the Son of God.

529
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,080
And that day in that empty
Catholic Church, I heard the

530
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,080
voice of God echo, and I heard
it with my ears.

531
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:51,040
And he said to me, who are you
to tell me who I can be and

532
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,480
cannot be?
If you really want to know the

533
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,120
truth, go and come back like a
child and I will tell you the

534
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,040
truth.
I ran out of the church.

535
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,440
I had no doubt God had just
spoken to me.

536
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:07,320
That voice echoed in that church
and it was powerful and it was

537
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:13,360
firm, but it was also loving and
it wasn't a voice because I knew

538
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,480
Allah where Allah just dictates.
This was the voice of a father

539
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,760
who just scolded me.
But he also told me, if you want

540
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,800
the truth, which means there is
a truth, come back like a child.

541
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,400
And he gave me a promise.
I will tell you the truth.

542
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,360
And so I came back.
And when I walked into that

543
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,720
church, I knew my life was going
to change.

544
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,000
I knew I was going to pay a
price for this truth, but I

545
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,280
wanted it at all cost.
It was worth it.

546
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,800
I came in and I sat down and I
emptied my mind of what I've

547
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,600
been taught for 40 years.
And I said to him, tell me

548
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,280
that's all I said.
And in that instant there was a

549
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,280
bolt of light that came from
that crucifix and it hit my

550
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:03,360
heart and it went through my
body and I started to shake and

551
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,640
cry, sobbing because in front of
me was Jesus.

552
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,159
And all that my mouth could say
was I believe.

553
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:13,560
I believe.
And in that moment I had never

554
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,920
gotten on my knees.
But in that moment I felt like

555
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,440
my knees gave way.
And I collapsed on my knees

556
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,920
sobbing and saying, I believe.
I believe.

557
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,239
You are the Son of God.
I believe, I believe because at

558
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,239
the name of Jesus every knee
shall bend and every tongue

559
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,520
confess that He is Lord to the
glory of God the Father.

560
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,480
When truth stands in front of
you, you cannot deny it.

561
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,760
I was expecting a philosophy or
some words that God was going to

562
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,560
reveal the truth about.
I was not prepared to face truth

563
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,440
himself because truth is a
person and His name is Jesus

564
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,639
Christ of Nazareth.
I started going and that comes

565
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:52,880
from a woman by the name of Ali
for God, glory, an admitted

566
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:56,760
Muslim and she had that
experience and she says, I know

567
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,600
that this is it.
I'm I'm going to be paying a

568
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,720
price for this one.
That's a tough call.

569
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:06,800
It takes a lot of courage.
You know, I, I, I, I've told

570
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,040
people this, you know, people
ask me, you know, why do you put

571
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,880
so much time and energy into the
Urantia book?

572
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,360
And I said because I had already
believed in Christ before I even

573
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,760
started reading the Urantia
book.

574
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,840
But once you read something or
once you are looking at

575
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,680
something and you know that it
has that ring of truth, you,

576
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:25,600
you, I mean, what are you
supposed to do?

577
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,760
Say no, that's not true.
Even though my mind is accepted

578
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:33,360
that what I have in my
possession is has what, by what

579
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,760
other measure?
So, and, and this woman tells a

580
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,720
very courageous story.
I wonder, and it's not an old

581
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:44,320
video, so it's fairly recent.
I wonder if you if you've had

582
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,720
that shared experience as well?
This is interesting because I

583
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:52,400
think that every human being who
is self-conscious understands

584
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,520
exactly what this person is
talking about, no?

585
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,440
If you sit quietly for a moment
and just observe what's

586
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,880
happening inside your head,
you'll notice something rather

587
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,400
extraordinary.
There's this constant chatter

588
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:10,480
going on, an endless stream of
commentary, of narration, of

589
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,960
conversation with yourself,
about yourself.

590
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,160
It never stops.
Even right now, as you're

591
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,120
listening to me, there's
probably another voice in your

592
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,480
head commenting on what I'm
saying, agreeing or disagreeing,

593
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,640
planning what to think next,
wondering if you've understood

594
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,040
correctly, perhaps even talking
about the fact that it's

595
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,800
talking.
This internal dialogue is so

596
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,480
constant, so pervasive, that
most people don't even notice it

597
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,480
anymore.
It's like the hum of a

598
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,840
refrigerator that you only hear
when someone points it out.

599
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,920
You know, that's from Richard
Victor Richmond post that.

600
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,560
And there's so much truth of
that because we know, or at

601
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,440
least from what the Urantia book
talks about, how the mechanism

602
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,960
of the mind works on a conscious
level, on a subconscious level,

603
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,240
and even on a super conscious
level when our spirit fragment

604
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:05,280
is trying to influence and make
us more spiritually aroused, if

605
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,120
you will.
And so it is interesting how we

606
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,520
have that mechanism of the brain
that is super material and it's

607
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,720
not bound by time and it's not
bound by space, but it's there

608
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:20,800
and it's it's a if.
My question is, I don't think

609
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:25,240
many people even are aware or
are conscious of what their mind

610
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:27,480
is doing.
They almost are in autopilot.

611
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,320
That's sort of what I take from
this.

612
00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:33,320
Anyway, we've got time for one
more watch.

613
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,880
How Paul Rudd changes their mind
to There's actually a good

614
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,600
lesson in this if you guys.
Could go back in time and spend

615
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,040
the day of anyone from history,
who would you choose apart from

616
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,840
the Wright brothers?
Obviously anyone from history

617
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,760
who would Who would we choose?
That's a great.

618
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,160
Question.
I know my answer.

619
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,960
Go ahead.
Jesus Christ.

620
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,600
By the way, laugh all you want
and it seems like it would be a

621
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,360
wrong thing to say he existed.
Yeah, we know you.

622
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,920
So wouldn't you want to spend
some time with him and go?

623
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,080
Jesus, what's the deal?
Did you think of?

624
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,000
What's the deal?
True.

625
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,000
Yeah, Yeah.
I mean, I probably, it sounds

626
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,560
great.
It is no genuinely fantastic.

627
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,760
Answer but and it.
Sounds like you say this and

628
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,680
people think like, whoa, whoa,
whoa, you can't say that.

629
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,120
And I'd say, well, why?
No, That's who I would do.

630
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,960
That's true.
That's why I called this episode

631
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,520
Jesus.
What's the deal?

632
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,040
Now you know where the title
came from.

633
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,800
Listen, I'll be on a mini
vacation of sorts, traveling W

634
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,480
visiting family and friends and
then we'll be back.

635
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,720
So if there's a little bit of a
delay, I'll try to do an episode

636
00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:39,920
while I'm traveling, but if I'm
not able to, we will reconvene

637
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,160
in the month of late.
May is probably when I'll be

638
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,760
back.
So hang tight and you're in

639
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,520
charge until I get back.
See you next time on the Rancho

640
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:51,520
Radio Podcast.