July 11, 2025
Three Kinds of Death
In this episode we explore Paper 112:3 and the three kinds of death.
The subject of human personality is also clarified, and we learn what happens to our spirit when we pass from the human life to the next stage of existence on the Mansion worlds. The revelators offer a comprehensive explanation of the phenomena of death - but also the more important concept of survival of the human personality beyond the limitations of material life.
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Welcome to another edition of
the Rancher Radio Podcast.
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My name is Jim Watkins.
I'm a long time reader and
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student of the 5th epical
Revelation, and I love talking
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about it.
There's so much to delve into in
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this super terrific
philosophical religious texts
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and I appreciate you stopping
by.
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And today we're going to be
talking about the phenomena of
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death as it is outlined in Paper
112 of the Urantia Book.
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So that should be very
interesting.
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Plus some anecdotes on current
events and some new projects.
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All exciting stuff right here on
the Urantia Radio Podcast.
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Welcome to another edition of
the Urantia Radio podcast.
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It's good to have you here and
you are enjoying the music of
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David Dinger and he has a great
selection of music.
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David R Dinger, to be specific,
from Norfolk, VA, long time
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student of the Urantia book as
well.
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And I consider him a friend.
We've talked a few times.
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We talked a lot about what's
going on in the world.
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Boy, it's in fact all of my
Urantia friends.
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We all are gravely concerned
about what's happening in the
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world today.
And there's a lot, there's a big
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battle, I think, going on from
historical terms between and I'm
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sure that our unseen friends
take note that there is a real
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ideological struggle going on
between Islam and Christianity.
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Now my simple observation, or a
passing observation for me is
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that Christianity in the West
has lost its savour.
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Maybe not among Christians.
Christianity seems to be making
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a comeback because I think the
new generation has seen what a
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world without Christianity looks
like and they don't like it too
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much.
On the other hand, the fervor of
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Islamic faith is that they've
got a global intifada underway,
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according to their religious
leaders, at least the Shias.
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And so we don't know the
unpredictability of that, But we
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do see from a anthropological
scale how the migration has
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occurred.
Now, you know, the Urantia book
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speaks a lot to how the
different races and cultures
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have migrated since the
beginning of time.
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And we're definitely seeing a
migration shift.
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Is it particularly in Europe,
Western Europe?
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And it's having an effect, a
cultural effect.
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Look what's happening in
England.
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And it's almost like it's
filling in a vacuum.
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I'm just making an observation
that when Christianity retreats
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and then you have this other
more aggressive religion such as
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Islam, it's naturally going to
fill that void.
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And if it wasn't for the
incessant wars, much of them
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being propped up these days by
forces that we can only imagine
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you've we forget that many of
these migrants are leaving the
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Middle East because of war.
Look at Syria a few years back,
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look at Gaza.
I mean, those people have to go
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somewhere.
And I think that sort of is the
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prelude to what we're it's not
just all of a sudden we had a
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migrant problem.
There were forces that created
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that migration.
And it's definitely having an
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effect.
But there's also a lot of anger
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in the world More day more now
than before because of social
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media.
I am convinced that
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sociologically it was probably
too much for people to handle.
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We're essentially reading each
other's minds at this point
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because everybody's online
expressing their opinions about
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a a million different things.
So that's unsettling to the
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human condition.
It's it's like an episode of the
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Twilight Zone, right?
All of a sudden, every, you can
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hear everybody's thoughts.
And sometimes those thoughts,
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not only are they fleeting and
temperamental, but they're also
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very harming.
I hate to say that I don't want
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to sound like Big Brother or
anything, but do we really all
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need to be on social media all
the time telling everybody
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exactly how we feel?
Because again, feelings change.
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What you think today or what you
thought today can be changed
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with new data, new facts.
But in the meantime, you're on
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record is stating a position.
So that's one of the reasons I
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stay away from Facebook.
I I've never liked Facebook.
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To me, Facebook was like peering
into somebody's home when
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they're not looking.
And I don't want to know that
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much.
I mean, TMI, too much
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information, right?
Secularism also has been a main
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concern of mine just because
without the absence of of God,
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which the Urantia book asserts a
million times, it's a good idea.
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They say that you think you can
live without God, but at the end
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of the day, without God, nothing
else really holds itself
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together.
God is the cohesive cosmic glue
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and it's the it's the purpose.
It's the purpose for everything.
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You know, I often explain the
Urantia books interpretation of
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deity in a very simple way.
At at some point, some
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philosophical point of time, God
made the decision that he, it
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was not enough to be an
existential deity of perfection.
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It wasn't enough.
It had to be experiential.
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Everything has to be
experienced.
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And so the Supreme Being emerges
from that experiential God of
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experience with the existential
God of perfection.
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And, and we all get to
participate in that, if we
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choose to participate in it.
That's what the point of the
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spirit fragment is in his image
points to that fragment spirit
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which the Urantia book calls the
thought Adjuster.
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And the thought adjuster is that
part of God that resides in
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every human mind correction,
every normal human mind.
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And it gets us from here to
there, you know, and the
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challenge for a lot of people
when they talk about the
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afterlife, which is very heavy
subject to begin with, is that
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no one really knows for sure
what happens.
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We think we know what happens.
We hope we know what happens.
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Many of us don't even believe
it's possible that there could
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be some sort of people are more
inclined to believe more in
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reincarnation than resurrection.
And, and a lot of people discard
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the whole notion as being
nothing more than a myth.
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And that's what we're going to
kind of talk about here today in
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the phenomena of death in the
Urantia book, it's Paper 112.
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And they're kind of giving us
some insight as to what
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constitutes personality.
That personality is, is the
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Organism reacting to its
environment.
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That's what constitutes living.
We are we are organisms and we
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are reacting to the external
stimuli as we move through space
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and time.
But the one unchanging
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underlying principle is the
personality, the cohesive person
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personality that we all possess.
We are all each individual
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unique, non totalable
personalities.
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We are only and from God's
perspective, we are only in this
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relationship from a qualitative
standpoint because he is a
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personality.
And so in the phenomena of
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death, it, it covers a lot of
areas.
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So I want to delve right into it
because it is important,
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especially within the context of
how people feel today.
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People do feel lonelier than
they've ever been.
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According to all the statistics,
mental illness is is rising.
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It's off the charts, there's no
question about that.
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We've talked about that.
So maybe this will give us some
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insight as to how we can tackle
some of these issues both
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personally and collectively.
So let's examine what the
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phenomena of death really is.
And in we'll pick up from
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Section 3 the phenomenon of
death.
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It says your answers generally
recognize only one kind of
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death, the physical cessation of
life energies.
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But concerning personality
survival, there are really three
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kinds.
Number one is spiritual, the
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soul death.
If and when mortal man has
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finally rejected survival, when
he has been pronounced
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spiritually insolvent,
morantually bankrupt in the
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conjoint opinion of the adjuster
and the surviving Seraphim, When
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such coordinate advice has been
recorded on Universa, and after
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the sensors and the reflective
associates have verified these
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findings.
Thereupon do the rulers of
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Orvington order the immediate
release of the indwelling
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monitor the fragment.
But this release of the adjuster
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in no way affects the duties of
the personal or group seraphim
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concerned with that ingestor
abandoned individual.
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So even after the spirit
fragment has left that mortal,
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the, the, the group Seraphim,
they were concerned with his or
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her livelihood is still there.
The the human doesn't get
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abandoned.
But this kind of death, it says,
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is final in its significance.
Irrespective of the temporary
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continuation of the living
energies of the physical and
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mind mechanisms.
From the cosmic standpoint, the
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mortal is already dead.
The continuing life merely
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indicates the persistence of the
material momentum of cosmic
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energies.
So I'll ask you a very
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challenging and important
question.
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Do you know someone who was
already spiritually dead?
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Do you know someone in your
life?
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I know a lot of atheists in my
life.
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Some of them, I think they're
just ignorant.
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Especially young people, a young
atheist, there's no way that a a
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young person can make any
evaluation during that early
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state of thinking and thought
process.
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It's sometimes it's just easier
to not to deny because it feels
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liberating.
But the older people, the people
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who who don't believe in God and
they're actually antagonistic
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against religion.
I sometimes wonder if if many of
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these people are actually
already dead, at least
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spiritually.
And, and I know that, you know,
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people that are absolutely
antagonistic towards
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Christianity, towards faith.
Bill Maher might be a good
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example of that.
Certainly some of these
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atheists, what is it, Hutchins?
Others like that, that they're
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so absolute in their fervor that
there is no afterlife.
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I wondered, are they
constitutionally have the
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Orvington rulers ruled on them
yet, or did they give them the
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chance of their life until their
last breath?
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So the second kind of death is
intellectual death, and it
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describes it as follows.
When the vital circuits of
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higher adjutant ministry are
disrupted through the
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aberrations of intellect or
because of the partial
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destruction of the mechanism of
the brain, and if these
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conditions pass a certain
critical point of
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irreparability, the indwelling
adjuster is immediately released
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to depart.
For Divinnington on the Universe
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Records, a mortal personality is
considered to have met with
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death whenever the essential
mind circuits of human will
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action have been destroyed.
And again, this is death
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irrespective of the continuing
function of of the living
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mechanism of the physical body.
The body minus the volitional
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mind is no longer human, but
according to the prior choosing
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of the human will, the soul of
such an individual may survive.
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So we can think of all kinds of
examples, people with
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Alzheimer's, advanced stage
dementia or Alzheimer's, people
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who are who get into an
accident, some sort of physical
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accident where they injure their
brain, people who are on life
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support perhaps.
So those are just varying
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degrees of people that have met
with intellectual death.
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Although you could argue that
intellectual death also has to
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do with when a personality no
longer has what they call will
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to action.
And that might be somebody
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defined as either very sub
intelligent living in the worst
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possible of circumstances, or
perhaps they're so outright evil
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that they don't even have
control over their own actions
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anymore and they're just simply
driven by animal instinct.
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So I think that could qualify as
someone who has died
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intellectually.
And then there's three, which is
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the most common, the body and
mind.
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Death, it writes.
When death overtakes a human
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being.
The adjuster remains in the
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citadel of the mind until it
ceases to function as an
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intellectual, intelligent
mechanism, about the time that
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the measurable brain energies
cease their rhythmic vital
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pulsations.
Following this disillusion, the
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adjuster takes leave of the
vanishing mind just as
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unceremoniously as entry was
made years before.
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And this adjuster, the spirit
fragment proceeds to
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Divinnington by way of U versa,
Divinington.
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Where is Divinington?
Is it?
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Is it in the Havona?
Well, maybe we could look that
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up.
But Divinington is where the
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fragments of the of the spirit
of the Father reside.
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That is their home until their
partner, their sole partner is
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resurrected on the Marancha or
resurrection worlds, the mansion
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worlds.
And it's at that point that the
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adjuster is reunited with its
partner, its personality
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partner, and the the ascendant
journey continues on.
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explanation of how the soul
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survives physical death.
It concludes after the death of
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material body, returns to the
elemental world from which it
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was derived from dust to dust,
right, But two non material
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factors of surviving personality
persist.
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The pre existent thought
Adjuster, with the memory
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transcriptions of the mortal
career, proceeds to Divinington,
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and there also remains in the
custody of the Destiny Guardian
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the immortal Morontia soul of
the deceased human.
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These phases and forms of soul,
these once kinetic but now
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static formulas of identity, are
essential to re personalization
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on the Marancha worlds, and it
is the reunion of the Adjuster
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and the soul that reassembles
the surviving personality that
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re conscious sizes you at the
time of the Marancha awakening.
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For those who do not have
personal seraphic guardians, the
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group custodians faithfully and
efficiently perform the same
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service of identity safekeeping
and personality resurrection.
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The seraphim are indispensable
to the reassembly of the
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personality upon death.
The thought of gesture
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temporarily loses personality
but not identity.
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The human subject temporarily
loses identity, but not
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personality on the mansion
worlds.
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Both reunite in eternal
manifestation.
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Never does a departed thought
adjuster return to Earth as the
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being of former indwelling.
Never is personality manifested
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without the human will, and
never does a disadjusted human
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being after death manifest
active identity or in any manner
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to establish communication with
the living beings of Earth.
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Such a disadjusted souls or such
disadjusted souls are wholly and
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absolutely unconscious during
the long or short sleep of
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death.
There can be no exhibition of
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any sort of personality or
ability to engage in
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communications with other other
personalities until after
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completion of survival.
Those who go to the mansion
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worlds are never permitted to
send messages back to their
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loved ones.
It is the policy throughout the
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universes to forbid such
communications during the period
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of a current dispensation.
Now I'm reminded by Byron
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Belezza's book.
I believe it's the the book he
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wrote about the soul and he
refers to a lot of near death
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experiences, Ndas, and there's
some great observations that he
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makes.
And I'm wondering if perhaps
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when certain humans, when they
have that near death experience,
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they haven't died and that their
body is still functioning and
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their thought adjuster hasn't
left their body.
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And it might be the reflectivity
of the thought adjuster who's
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more easily communicating with
its parent or subject host to
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communicate glimpses of the, the
mansion life or the Marancha
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life.
So that's worth a, a real good
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discussion.
But wow, so much is displayed.
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I mean, this, this one paper
explains the whole process of
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what happens when you die and
the different kinds of death,
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which is something that a lot of
religious texts do not touch.
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And I, and I, and I also like
the fact that this, this section
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or this paper clarifies that we
don't talk to ghosts.
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This one of the reasons why the
Urantia book has the credibility
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it has because it, it
definitively explains the
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process of dying, but it also
affirms that transactional
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communications of a sort between
previously lived human beings
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can somehow communicate, you
know, and through seances or
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channeling.
And this book says, no, that's
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not, that's not allowed.
So I think that's an interesting
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aspect of this book.
So that's this paper 112.
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And it's, it's a pretty, pretty
good read, I would say.
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I I do want to, as we play a
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my good friend David Dinger.
I do we have it.
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Are we going to play it?
Yeah, Let's let's go out with
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this.
I've taken some liberties here
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So you might want to have to
check back on this.
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But I've taken the shroud of
turn images of Christ just to
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show what technology allows us
to do now.
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And I've taken the image from
the shroud of turn that was
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digitized back around, I don't
know, 2015 or something.
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And I've created a, a, a
photograph through artificial
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intelligence.
And it looks, if it's not
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Jesus's face, it sure looks like
someone who would look like
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Jesus, if that makes any sense.
And I, and I'm taking the
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liberty of taking certain
phrases out of the Arantia book,
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some of them that are also
recognizable as being part of
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like scripture and, and turning
them into these two-minute
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pieces where it actually looks
as if Jesus is speaking his own
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words.
And I'm, I'm hoping that that
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could be something that could go
viral because I think right now
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the message of Jesus is really
important.
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Don't you?
I mean, right now the, the West
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needs a, a booster shot of, you
know, Jesus's teachings.
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And, and there's so many great
ones.
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could do a better job of getting
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those teachings out there and
technology can aid us in that.
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And I, and I think that's,
that's a good thing.
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So be on the lookout for some of
these Jesus things on getter and
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Instagram.
It's pretty remarkable one
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there's I have to watch it 10
times and it just blows me away.
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But we'll continue on and we're
hoping to get a guest on next
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week who is going to talk about
Urantiopaedia.
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And I've talked about that a
little bit.
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It's a great website.
It's inspired by Dwayne Fogg's
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perrimony.
We'll talk about that in the
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next edition of the Urantia
Radio Podcast.
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And of course, if you want to
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urantiabookradio@gmail.com.
Thank you again and God bless.
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Welcome to another edition of
the Rancher Radio Podcast.
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My name is Jim Watkins.
I'm a long time reader and
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student of the 5th epical
Revelation, and I love talking
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about it.
There's so much to delve into in
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this super terrific
philosophical religious texts
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and I appreciate you stopping
by.
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And today we're going to be
talking about the phenomena of
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death as it is outlined in Paper
112 of the Urantia Book.
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So that should be very
interesting.
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Plus some anecdotes on current
events and some new projects.
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All exciting stuff right here on
the Urantia Radio Podcast.
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Welcome to another edition of
the Urantia Radio podcast.
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It's good to have you here and
you are enjoying the music of
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David Dinger and he has a great
selection of music.
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David R Dinger, to be specific,
from Norfolk, VA, long time
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student of the Urantia book as
well.
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And I consider him a friend.
We've talked a few times.
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We talked a lot about what's
going on in the world.
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Boy, it's in fact all of my
Urantia friends.
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We all are gravely concerned
about what's happening in the
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world today.
And there's a lot, there's a big
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battle, I think, going on from
historical terms between and I'm
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sure that our unseen friends
take note that there is a real
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ideological struggle going on
between Islam and Christianity.
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Now my simple observation, or a
passing observation for me is
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that Christianity in the West
has lost its savour.
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Maybe not among Christians.
Christianity seems to be making
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a comeback because I think the
new generation has seen what a
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world without Christianity looks
like and they don't like it too
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much.
On the other hand, the fervor of
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Islamic faith is that they've
got a global intifada underway,
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according to their religious
leaders, at least the Shias.
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And so we don't know the
unpredictability of that, But we
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do see from a anthropological
scale how the migration has
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occurred.
Now, you know, the Urantia book
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speaks a lot to how the
different races and cultures
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have migrated since the
beginning of time.
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migration shift.
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Is it particularly in Europe,
Western Europe?
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And it's having an effect, a
cultural effect.
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Look what's happening in
England.
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And it's almost like it's
filling in a vacuum.
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I'm just making an observation
that when Christianity retreats
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and then you have this other
more aggressive religion such as
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Islam, it's naturally going to
fill that void.
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And if it wasn't for the
incessant wars, much of them
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being propped up these days by
forces that we can only imagine
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you've we forget that many of
these migrants are leaving the
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Middle East because of war.
Look at Syria a few years back,
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look at Gaza.
I mean, those people have to go
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somewhere.
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prelude to what we're it's not
just all of a sudden we had a
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migrant problem.
There were forces that created
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that migration.
And it's definitely having an
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effect.
But there's also a lot of anger
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in the world More day more now
than before because of social
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media.
I am convinced that
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sociologically it was probably
too much for people to handle.
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We're essentially reading each
other's minds at this point
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because everybody's online
expressing their opinions about
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a a million different things.
So that's unsettling to the
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human condition.
It's it's like an episode of the
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Twilight Zone, right?
All of a sudden, every, you can
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hear everybody's thoughts.
And sometimes those thoughts,
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not only are they fleeting and
temperamental, but they're also
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very harming.
I hate to say that I don't want
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to sound like Big Brother or
anything, but do we really all
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need to be on social media all
the time telling everybody
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exactly how we feel?
Because again, feelings change.
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What you think today or what you
thought today can be changed
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with new data, new facts.
But in the meantime, you're on
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record is stating a position.
So that's one of the reasons I
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stay away from Facebook.
I I've never liked Facebook.
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To me, Facebook was like peering
into somebody's home when
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they're not looking.
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much.
I mean, TMI, too much
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information, right?
Secularism also has been a main
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concern of mine just because
without the absence of of God,
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which the Urantia book asserts a
million times, it's a good idea.
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They say that you think you can
live without God, but at the end
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of the day, without God, nothing
else really holds itself
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together.
God is the cohesive cosmic glue
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and it's the it's the purpose.
It's the purpose for everything.
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You know, I often explain the
Urantia books interpretation of
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deity in a very simple way.
At at some point, some
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philosophical point of time, God
made the decision that he, it
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was not enough to be an
existential deity of perfection.
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It wasn't enough.
It had to be experiential.
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Everything has to be
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And so the Supreme Being emerges
from that experiential God of
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experience with the existential
God of perfection.
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And, and we all get to
participate in that, if we
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choose to participate in it.
That's what the point of the
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spirit fragment is in his image
points to that fragment spirit
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which the Urantia book calls the
thought Adjuster.
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part of God that resides in
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every human mind correction,
every normal human mind.
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there, you know, and the
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challenge for a lot of people
when they talk about the
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afterlife, which is very heavy
subject to begin with, is that
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no one really knows for sure
what happens.
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We think we know what happens.
We hope we know what happens.
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Many of us don't even believe
it's possible that there could
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be some sort of people are more
inclined to believe more in
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reincarnation than resurrection.
And, and a lot of people discard
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the whole notion as being
nothing more than a myth.
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And that's what we're going to
kind of talk about here today in
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the phenomena of death in the
Urantia book, it's Paper 112.
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And they're kind of giving us
some insight as to what
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constitutes personality.
That personality is, is the
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Organism reacting to its
environment.
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That's what constitutes living.
We are we are organisms and we
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are reacting to the external
stimuli as we move through space
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and time.
But the one unchanging
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underlying principle is the
personality, the cohesive person
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personality that we all possess.
We are all each individual
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unique, non totalable
personalities.
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We are only and from God's
perspective, we are only in this
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relationship from a qualitative
standpoint because he is a
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personality.
And so in the phenomena of
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death, it, it covers a lot of
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So I want to delve right into it
because it is important,
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especially within the context of
how people feel today.
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People do feel lonelier than
they've ever been.
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According to all the statistics,
mental illness is is rising.
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It's off the charts, there's no
question about that.
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We've talked about that.
So maybe this will give us some
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insight as to how we can tackle
some of these issues both
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personally and collectively.
So let's examine what the
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phenomena of death really is.
And in we'll pick up from
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Section 3 the phenomenon of
death.
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It says your answers generally
recognize only one kind of
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death, the physical cessation of
life energies.
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But concerning personality
survival, there are really three
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kinds.
Number one is spiritual, the
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soul death.
If and when mortal man has
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finally rejected survival, when
he has been pronounced
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spiritually insolvent,
morantually bankrupt in the
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conjoint opinion of the adjuster
and the surviving Seraphim, When
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such coordinate advice has been
recorded on Universa, and after
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the sensors and the reflective
associates have verified these
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findings.
Thereupon do the rulers of
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Orvington order the immediate
release of the indwelling
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monitor the fragment.
But this release of the adjuster
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in no way affects the duties of
the personal or group seraphim
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concerned with that ingestor
abandoned individual.
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So even after the spirit
fragment has left that mortal,
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the, the, the group Seraphim,
they were concerned with his or
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her livelihood is still there.
The the human doesn't get
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abandoned.
But this kind of death, it says,
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is final in its significance.
Irrespective of the temporary
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continuation of the living
energies of the physical and
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mind mechanisms.
From the cosmic standpoint, the
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mortal is already dead.
The continuing life merely
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indicates the persistence of the
material momentum of cosmic
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energies.
So I'll ask you a very
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challenging and important
question.
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Do you know someone who was
already spiritually dead?
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Do you know someone in your
life?
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I know a lot of atheists in my
life.
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Some of them, I think they're
just ignorant.
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Especially young people, a young
atheist, there's no way that a a
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young person can make any
evaluation during that early
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state of thinking and thought
process.
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It's sometimes it's just easier
to not to deny because it feels
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liberating.
But the older people, the people
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who who don't believe in God and
they're actually antagonistic
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against religion.
I sometimes wonder if if many of
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these people are actually
already dead, at least
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spiritually.
And, and I know that, you know,
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people that are absolutely
antagonistic towards
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Christianity, towards faith.
Bill Maher might be a good
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example of that.
Certainly some of these
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atheists, what is it, Hutchins?
Others like that, that they're
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so absolute in their fervor that
there is no afterlife.
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I wondered, are they
constitutionally have the
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Orvington rulers ruled on them
yet, or did they give them the
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chance of their life until their
last breath?
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So the second kind of death is
intellectual death, and it
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describes it as follows.
When the vital circuits of
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higher adjutant ministry are
disrupted through the
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aberrations of intellect or
because of the partial
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destruction of the mechanism of
the brain, and if these
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conditions pass a certain
critical point of
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irreparability, the indwelling
adjuster is immediately released
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to depart.
For Divinnington on the Universe
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Records, a mortal personality is
considered to have met with
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death whenever the essential
mind circuits of human will
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action have been destroyed.
And again, this is death
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irrespective of the continuing
function of of the living
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mechanism of the physical body.
The body minus the volitional
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mind is no longer human, but
according to the prior choosing
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of the human will, the soul of
such an individual may survive.
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So we can think of all kinds of
examples, people with
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Alzheimer's, advanced stage
dementia or Alzheimer's, people
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who are who get into an
accident, some sort of physical
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accident where they injure their
brain, people who are on life
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support perhaps.
So those are just varying
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degrees of people that have met
with intellectual death.
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Although you could argue that
intellectual death also has to
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do with when a personality no
longer has what they call will
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to action.
And that might be somebody
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defined as either very sub
intelligent living in the worst
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possible of circumstances, or
perhaps they're so outright evil
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that they don't even have
control over their own actions
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anymore and they're just simply
driven by animal instinct.
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So I think that could qualify as
someone who has died
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intellectually.
And then there's three, which is
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the most common, the body and
mind.
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Death, it writes.
When death overtakes a human
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being.
The adjuster remains in the
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citadel of the mind until it
ceases to function as an
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intellectual, intelligent
mechanism, about the time that
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the measurable brain energies
cease their rhythmic vital
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pulsations.
Following this disillusion, the
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adjuster takes leave of the
vanishing mind just as
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unceremoniously as entry was
made years before.
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And this adjuster, the spirit
fragment proceeds to
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Divinnington by way of U versa,
Divinington.
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Where is Divinington?
Is it?
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Is it in the Havona?
Well, maybe we could look that
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up.
But Divinington is where the
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fragments of the of the spirit
of the Father reside.
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That is their home until their
partner, their sole partner is
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resurrected on the Marancha or
resurrection worlds, the mansion
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worlds.
And it's at that point that the
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adjuster is reunited with its
partner, its personality
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partner, and the the ascendant
journey continues on.
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And that would be the
explanation of how the soul
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survives physical death.
It concludes after the death of
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material body, returns to the
elemental world from which it
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was derived from dust to dust,
right, But two non material
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factors of surviving personality
persist.
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The pre existent thought
Adjuster, with the memory
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transcriptions of the mortal
career, proceeds to Divinington,
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and there also remains in the
custody of the Destiny Guardian
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the immortal Morontia soul of
the deceased human.
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These phases and forms of soul,
these once kinetic but now
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static formulas of identity, are
essential to re personalization
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on the Marancha worlds, and it
is the reunion of the Adjuster
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and the soul that reassembles
the surviving personality that
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re conscious sizes you at the
time of the Marancha awakening.
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For those who do not have
personal seraphic guardians, the
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group custodians faithfully and
efficiently perform the same
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service of identity safekeeping
and personality resurrection.
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The seraphim are indispensable
to the reassembly of the
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personality upon death.
The thought of gesture
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temporarily loses personality
but not identity.
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The human subject temporarily
loses identity, but not
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personality on the mansion
worlds.
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Both reunite in eternal
manifestation.
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Never does a departed thought
adjuster return to Earth as the
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being of former indwelling.
Never is personality manifested
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without the human will, and
never does a disadjusted human
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being after death manifest
active identity or in any manner
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to establish communication with
the living beings of Earth.
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Such a disadjusted souls or such
disadjusted souls are wholly and
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absolutely unconscious during
the long or short sleep of
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death.
There can be no exhibition of
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any sort of personality or
ability to engage in
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communications with other other
personalities until after
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completion of survival.
Those who go to the mansion
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worlds are never permitted to
send messages back to their
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loved ones.
It is the policy throughout the
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universes to forbid such
communications during the period
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of a current dispensation.
Now I'm reminded by Byron
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Belezza's book.
I believe it's the the book he
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wrote about the soul and he
refers to a lot of near death
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experiences, Ndas, and there's
some great observations that he
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makes.
And I'm wondering if perhaps
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when certain humans, when they
have that near death experience,
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they haven't died and that their
body is still functioning and
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their thought adjuster hasn't
left their body.
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And it might be the reflectivity
of the thought adjuster who's
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more easily communicating with
its parent or subject host to
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communicate glimpses of the, the
mansion life or the Marancha
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life.
So that's worth a, a real good
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discussion.
But wow, so much is displayed.
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I mean, this, this one paper
explains the whole process of
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what happens when you die and
the different kinds of death,
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which is something that a lot of
religious texts do not touch.
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And I, and I, and I also like
the fact that this, this section
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or this paper clarifies that we
don't talk to ghosts.
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This one of the reasons why the
Urantia book has the credibility
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it has because it, it
definitively explains the
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process of dying, but it also
affirms that transactional
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communications of a sort between
previously lived human beings
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can somehow communicate, you
know, and through seances or
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channeling.
And this book says, no, that's
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not, that's not allowed.
So I think that's an interesting
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aspect of this book.
So that's this paper 112.
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And it's, it's a pretty, pretty
good read, I would say.
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And I think we should leave it
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I I do want to, as we play a
little bit more music here with
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my good friend David Dinger.
I do we have it.
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Are we going to play it?
Yeah, Let's let's go out with
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this.
I've taken some liberties here
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and I'm, I may put this up on
the podcast.
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So you might want to have to
check back on this.
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But I've taken the shroud of
turn images of Christ just to
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show what technology allows us
to do now.
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And I've taken the image from
the shroud of turn that was
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digitized back around, I don't
know, 2015 or something.
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And I've created a, a, a
photograph through artificial
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intelligence.
And it looks, if it's not
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Jesus's face, it sure looks like
someone who would look like
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Jesus, if that makes any sense.
And I, and I'm taking the
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liberty of taking certain
phrases out of the Arantia book,
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some of them that are also
recognizable as being part of
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like scripture and, and turning
them into these two-minute
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pieces where it actually looks
as if Jesus is speaking his own
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words.
And I'm, I'm hoping that that
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could be something that could go
viral because I think right now
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the message of Jesus is really
important.
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Don't you?
I mean, right now the, the West
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needs a, a booster shot of, you
know, Jesus's teachings.
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And, and there's so many great
ones.
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And I think we certainly me
could do a better job of getting
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those teachings out there and
technology can aid us in that.
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And I, and I think that's,
that's a good thing.
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So be on the lookout for some of
these Jesus things on getter and
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Instagram.
It's pretty remarkable one
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there's I have to watch it 10
times and it just blows me away.
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But we'll continue on and we're
hoping to get a guest on next
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week who is going to talk about
Urantiopaedia.
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And I've talked about that a
little bit.
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It's a great website.
It's inspired by Dwayne Fogg's
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perrimony.
We'll talk about that in the
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next edition of the Urantia
Radio Podcast.
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And of course, if you want to
reach out to me
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urantiabookradio@gmail.com.
Thank you again and God bless.
