The Urantia Book-Bible Dynamic

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OK, so we're going to get into
some pretty heavy stuff this

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time up and I know you love it.
I do too.

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After all, we are talking about
the 5th epical Revelation, the

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Urantia book.
And lately we've been focusing

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on the dynamics between the
Urantia book teachings and

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Christianity.
And, and we're going to get to

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some interesting, I think,
articles that you'll enjoy,

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including one from a a reader
who submitted some information

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in the last podcast on direct
references that were made during

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one of Jesus's teachings.
And I thought that was very

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interesting.
So we're going to get into a

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little bit of that.
I also want to center in on the

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ancients of days is it's very
integral to the whole panorama

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of God's creation, the
cosmological universe.

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So we'll get into who the
Ancient of Days were and how it

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again illustrates the the
partnership, which I think there

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is a strong partnership between
the Urantia book and

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Christianity.
So we'll get to that in just a

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second.
A reminder for you to join me on

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my website, which is a
constantly evolving website that

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has all kinds of cool things.
If you like the program, you

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want to go back in time, listen
to some earlier interviews with

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influencers within the Urantia
community, I encourage you to

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check out the website
itsurantiaradio.org.

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That's Urantia radio.org.
I'll

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I'll tell you a short story and
then we'll get into the bulk of

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what we want to talk about.
But everybody is familiar with

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the Star of Bethlehem.
That's the star that led the

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Magi, the three kings that came
from far off lands to witness

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and give honor to the baby Jesus
at the Manger in Bethlehem.

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We all know that story.
But there's a much greater level

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to that story, which I want to
bring to your attention as a way

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of illustrating how the dynamic
between the Urantia Book and the

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Christianity is very existent.
And the reason I say this is

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because one of the early
experiences I had in recognizing

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the dynamic between the Urantia
Book, the relationship between

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the Urantia Book and the Bible,
is that it seeks to explain,

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explain things that are in the
Bible that may not have been

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comprehensible at the time that
the Bible was written.

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Certainly that is the case when
it comes to the star of

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Bethlehem because I come to
discover in the Urantia book

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that it talks about 3 specific
dates in the year that Jesus was

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born.
And on those three specific

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dates there was a conjunction
between Jupiter and I want to

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say Mars or or another of the
other planets.

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Perhaps it was Mars.
But anyway, there was a

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conjunction that's specified in
the Life and teachings of Jesus

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where it talks about the legend
of the star.

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And in that it discloses that on
three specific dates that are

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listed in the Urantia book, they
give credence to the fact that

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there was a a conjunction, a
bright star in the evening sky

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during that period.
And this got woven into the

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story of the birth of Jesus.
Now you could contest that

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statement that the Urantia book
is positing that states this is

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how we explain the the star.
It didn't lead anybody, didn't

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attract the attention of the
magi.

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It didn't guide them to the
birth.

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How would it do that?
But what is the significance of

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it?
Well, the significance is that

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it captured that event, the
birth of Christ, as having

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occurred during that period
because the people that were on

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earth at the time would have
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They would have seen this
conjunction and maybe they tied

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it to the later recognition that
Jesus was a divine son.

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So with that, that gave to me an
early experience of saying,

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well, that's interesting because
I, I grew up with this story and

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this story from the Urantia book
clarifies that story and it may,

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it actually validates the story
in the Bible.

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And there's a lot of that.
And that's one of the reasons

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we're talking about this now.
I, it, it skipped my mind that I

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do have the Parimony, which was
written by Dwayne Faugh.

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And in the Parimony, which was
done back in the 70s, I believe

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Dwayne actually methodically
went through the Bible and

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correlated all the quotes that
were in the Urantia book and

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specifies where those quotations
are in the Bible.

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And I'll give you a good example
of that.

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So I got this from Carol.
Thank you Carol for sending it.

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And she writes, when the authors
of the Urantia book use quotes

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from the Bible, it appears they
use the King James Version.

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For example, the Urantia book in
paper 34 it says quote for the

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fruits of the Spirit are
Lovejoy, peace, long-suffering,

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gentleness, goodness, faith,
meekness and temperance.

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But in the Bible, where is that
quote from?

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It just appears in the Urantia
book but they don't give

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reference to where the quote
came from.

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Well it came from Galatians 522
in the King James, King James

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version where it says quote but
the fruit of the spirit is

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Lovejoy, peace, long-suffering,
gentleness, goodness, faith,

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meekness, temperance.
From paper 48 In the Urantia

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book, it talks about Paul, and
it says Paul learned of the

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existence of the Morantia worlds
and of the reality of the

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marrage of materials.
For he wrote they have in heaven

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a better and more enduring
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And End Quote.
And these marrage of materials

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are real, literal even as the
city which has its foundations,

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whose builder and maker is God.
And each of these marvelous

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fears is quote, a better
country, that is a heavenly one.

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Now where do those quotes come
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Well, it turns out that again in
the King James Version from

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Hebrews 1034 quote For ye had
compassion of me and my bonds,

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and look joyfully this spoiling
of your goods, knowing in

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yourself that ye have in heaven
a better and an enduring

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substance.
From Hebrews 11 But now they

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desire a better country, that is
an heavenly, wherefore God is

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not ashamed to be called their
God, for he hath prepared for

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them a city kind of similar to
they have and better in heaven,

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a better and more enduring
substance, which is how the

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Urantia book quotes Paul and
whose foundation, whose builder

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and maker is God.
So there's correlation between

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the quotations, not exact, but
actually more clarified in

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Hebrews 11/10.
For he looked for a city which

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hath foundation, whose builder
and maker is God.

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Again, that's going back to the
quote from 4817 in the Urantia

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book.
So it's an expansion on Carol's

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point that the Urantia book has
a relationship with the New

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Testament in particular because
it contains more of Jesus's

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teachings than any other
document.

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And it also has a relationship
with the Old Testament because

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many of those stories go all the
way back to the days of

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Dalmatia.
In particular, the story of

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Genesis, Melchizedek, the
covenant that Abraham made is,

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is clarified in the Bible.
It substantiates the roots of

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the Hebrew faith and how it
evolved and when Christ came,

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his followers who were all, by
the way, faithful believers in

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the laws of Moses and the Hebrew
faith in, in, in paper 155 and

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in the discourses on religion.
Jesus says, look, don't you know

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there's two things You know, you
don't have to go back to the

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past to experience God.
You can do it into yourself.

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The Kingdom of heaven is within
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But up to that point, that was
not what the Hebrew faith

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taught.
The the Hebrew faith taught

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obedience to the law and the
Hebrew faith was had very strict

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rules of conduct, of eating, of
diet, of of, of ritual that you

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had to perform to show your
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But even in the story of
Melchizedek, which I found to be

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very interesting, when they talk
about Melchizedek choosing

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Abraham as a potential leader of
the great truth of monotheism,

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that he knew about Abraham's
lineage, he knew that Abraham

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was Sumerian, which is important
because what's a Sumerian?

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Sumerian.
Well, the Sumerians were

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particularly known for their
dark hair and rich blue eyes,

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and they were themselves
ancestors, the Sumerian Semites.

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It's a small pocket of this one
group that had settled and built

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a sort of a civilization down
near where the Persian Gulf is

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today.
And they were the remnants of

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the second garden, which were
the Adamites and the earlier

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tribe of the Nodites.
And of course, the Nodites, the

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land of Nod.
Their ancestry traces them all

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the way back to the Dalamisha
days, Dilmun Dilmud of the days

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of the Tower of Babel, which was
a building that was going to be

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constructed to show from the
Nodites their love and reverence

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for for God.
So again, the Urantia book gives

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more substance to the stories
that are real in the in in the

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Bible that are based on fact and
it goes through all of the

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prophets and their influence and
how they carried the truth of

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monotheism forward.
So again, I I say all of this

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because I believe that, you
know, Byron Blezes made a point

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in his recent and by the way,
his last substack is that the

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Urantia movement is a movement
of a body, but it doesn't have a

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head.
And I take, I interpret that and

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maybe you disagree with me, but
what I interpret that is both

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positive and negative positive
is that we are not apparently

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developing into a cult where we
have cultist leaders and cult of

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personality and all that
nonsense.

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So far there hasn't been, well,
there have been a couple of

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exceptions, but they're they
were very transient.

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But by and large, the movement
of the Arantia book I was just

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reading today about the Christ
Michael Center and then some of

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the marvelous works they're
doing overseas.

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And that's what I think this
movement is really all about.

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We're going to have to bake
ourself into and have a positive

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influence, perhaps an uplifting
influence on the current

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religions of Christ, however
transformative that might be.

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I know from second hand
conversations is that there are

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people within the Mormon
movement who really like the

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Urantia book and they've made
attempts to introduce it, but so

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far nothing significant.
I also know that there are a lot

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of Christian groups that do like
the Urantia book and they read

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them, but they don't share it
with members of their church

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because, well, because of that
whole dynamic between Holy Holy

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Scripture and this new
revelation, the, the mainline

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church, the leaders within the
church, the the priests, the

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ministers, they're not ready for
the Urantia book.

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They're just not ready and
neither are a multitude of their

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constituents.
They're very comfortable.

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That's the whole point of Jesus
discourse is that many people

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are comfortable with an
intellectual approach to God.

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They like the pageantry, they
like the ritual.

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It's comfortable.
We are a tradition bound

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species.
Even Jesus recognized that in

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Paper 156 where they talk about
how people are used to their

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faith being practiced a certain
way and they're not going to

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easily let go of it.
But for the for the person who

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will follow the truth wherever
that truth may lead, the Urantia

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book opens up a whole bunch of
new doors.

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So I'll spend a little bit of
time on the ancients of days

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because I think it's important
to what I'm trying to suggest

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here, the Urantia movement, a
body without a head.

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I think we need that.
Christianity is going to have to

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at some point make a decision.
I hope the decision is the right

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1.
And I hope in future

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generations, perhaps in the next
50 years, some of these leaders

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that lead the Christian Church
and the different factions of

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the Christian Church will start
to hear from members of their

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flock about this book.
And let me give you a good

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example.
In the Bible, the ages of days

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are mentioned by Daniel several
times.

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In one statement, the ancients
of days are identified as like

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the Son of Man in Christian, the
ideology, it is believed to

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represent God in paradise and
also in revelation.

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Both Christ, the Son of man and
the ancients of days are said to

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give authority to the Son of
Man.

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So the interpretation from most
biblical scholars is that the

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Ancient of Days is in fact
another name for God.

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Why Daniel decided those words
we don't know, but we do know in

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Aramaic Ancient of Days actually
doesn't say ancient of days.

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It means one who is above time
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And I think that's the
interpretation Daniel was, was

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that whoever he was seeing in
his in spiritual encounter

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appeared as someone who had been
around for a while.

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In the Urantia book, we're told
that the ancients of days

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represent the authority or the
law of the Trinity.

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They act as the judicial branch
of the Super spiritual

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government of God.
You know, there's the law which

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pertains to physical law,
natural law, and then there's

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mercy and there's justice.
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the Trinity, the law, mercy, and
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We all have to follow basic
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rules of play.
The Golden Rule is based on this

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law of fairness and the Ancient
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expression of that law.
They can decree alone who who

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makes it and who doesn't.
They have the actual power.

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Let me read a little bit from
Daniel and there was given him

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referring to Ancient of Days,
dominion and glory and a Kingdom

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until the Ancient of Days come
and judgement was given to the

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Saints of the Most High again.
So the authority of the Ancient

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of Days that they can pass
judgement from Revelation 17, it

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says, Behold, he cometh with
clouds, Revelation 14141 like

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unto the Son of Man upon a
cloud, referencing that the Son

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of Man is of equal status or at
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receive authority from the
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And all of this serves to
recognize that the Urantia book

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clarifies the Bible's great
stories, the history of the

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prophets.
As I mentioned before, even the

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three circles on the Urantia
book is the logo of one of these

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divine sons, the faithful of
days.

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And, and it's says that on page
one of the Urantia book that the

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Ancient of Days are the ones who
commissioned the Urantia book.

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Right there on the first page
from Daniel 79 to 710.

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Behold, till the Thrones were
cast down, and the Ancient of

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Days did sit.
Whose garment was white as snow,

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and the hair of the head like
pure wool.

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His throne was like that of a
fiery flame, and his wheels as

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burning fire.
Next sentence, a fiery stream

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issued and came forth from
before him.

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Thousands and thousands minister
unto him, and 10,000 * 10,000

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stood before him.
The judgement was set and the

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book was open.
This all referencing the Ancient

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of Days.
It's Ancient of days.

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Whoever this agency is, is
extremely powerful, and again

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the Urantia Book says that they
represent the authority of the

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Trinity.
In the Urantia Book, Paper 18 it

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says in power, scope of
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jurisdiction, the ancients of
days are the most powerful and

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mighty of any of the direct
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creations in all the vast
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They alone are invested with the
high powers of final executive

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judgment concerning the eternal
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And all of this is to say that
we live in a very active

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universe led by super
intelligent and guided by

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spiritually motivated and
profoundly wise spiritual

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leaders who are, of course,
God's children.

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And it should also be noted that
the ancients of Days are

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expected to issue a final
executive judgement concerning

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Lucifer and the rebellion
against Michael and the universe

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rulers.
That's how power powerful this

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agency is of these three
individuals who again represent

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the Paradise Trinity in law and
scope of authority.

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So something to ponder.
It takes a passage from Daniel

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and expands upon it just as
we've illustrated.

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And it does this over and over
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There are 10s of thousands of
quotes that are given great

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clarification in the Urantia
book.

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I would think that would be an
exciting adventure for someone

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who was searching for God and
why we are here and what's next.

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So we'll see you next time on
the Urantia Radio Podcast.

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