July 15, 2025
The Trinity Concept
How does the Trinity concept help harmonize faith with science?
In Paper 104 from the Urantia Book, we learn about the Trinity Concept and how the functionality of Trinity aids us in understandng how God can both a personal loving spiritual father, at the same time can also be the primal energy source of an entire universe.
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Well, I hope you're doing great.
Thank you again.
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Another episode of the Rancho
Radio podcast and I want to talk
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about the Trinity.
It's I don't think I've ever
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talked about the Trinity.
It's from what I've been reading
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on Paper 104 and there's a lot
of good Nuggets in that, even
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though it's a very challenging
section of the book.
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If you notice in Part 3, as it
goes through the entirety of
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Part 3 of the Urantia book, it
gets a little bit more
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complicated and more complex up
to the point where they're
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talking about a lot of things
that it, it literally takes
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years to try to grasp and the
use of language is unbelievable.
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But they get to the part about
the Trinity.
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And what I've always found
interesting is that most
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religions in my own experience
about the Trinity is that people
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don't know or that they, they
say God the Father, God the Son
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and God the Spirit.
And in Catholicism, that's it's
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very prevalent in Catholicism,
but not so much in other
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branches of Christianity.
Like you won't hear a lot about
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the Trinity, I don't think in a
Baptist Church or in in in in a
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lot of Middle Eastern religions
Trinity is expressed through
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triune concepts, particularly in
Hinduism.
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So I've not really paid too much
attention to the Trinity
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concept, although I I think I
understand it more because I
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read the Urantia book and I
understand the relationship
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between God the Father, God the
Son, and God the Spirit.
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This particular paper is very
interesting and I want to pull
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out some really good notes about
it.
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And I think you'll have a better
appreciation of it too.
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Once we go through it.
It won't be a very long episode,
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but it's got a lot of good
interesting insight as to the
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nature of God.
So we'll continue in just a
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second here.
And I, I want to welcome you
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into the Your Rancher Radio
podcast.
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So the first question that
people will naturally ask is why
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is the Trinity concept
important?
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And in paper one O 4 of the
Urantia book, they explain why.
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And let me roll through some of
the more important comments and
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paragraphs, and then we'll weave
together the the context in
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which we could discover the
answer why the Trinity concept
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is such an important concept in
Christianity and indeed in
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understanding the relationship
of God.
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So it starts out with, it's
always difficult for an emerging
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monotheism to tolerate
Trinitarianism when confronted
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by polytheism.
The Trinity idea takes best hold
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of these religions, which have a
firm monotheistic tradition
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coupled with doctrinal
elasticity.
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The great monotheists, the
Hebrews and the Muhammadans
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found it difficult to
distinguish between worshipping
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3 gods, polytheism and
Trinitarianism, the worship of 1
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deity existing in a triune
manifestation of divinity and
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personality.
Now Jesus taught his apostles
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the truth regarding the persons
of the Paradise Trinity, but
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they thought he spoke
figuratively and symbolically.
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Having been nurtured in Hebraic
monotheism, they they found it
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difficult to entertain any
belief that seemed to conflict
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with the dominating concept of
Yahweh.
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And the early Christians
inherited the Hebraic prejudice
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against the Trinity concept.
And this goes back to what I was
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saying a moment ago about how in
some factors or some traditions
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of Christianity, there's a
stronger presence than others of
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the Trinity concept.
Paul knew of the Paradise
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Trinity of Father, Son, and
Spirit, but he seldom preached
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about it and made mention
thereof in only a few of his
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letters to the newly forming
churches.
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Even then did his fellow
apostles.
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Paul confused Jesus, the
Creator, Son of the local
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universe, with the second person
of deity and the eternal son of
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paradise.
Now over the years of my
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discussions with fellow
Christians about the Urantia
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book, they get a little upset
when I say to them, no, Jesus is
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not the second person of of
Trinity.
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So I know by experience that
there is some a little bit of
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consternation on Christians when
they read about the second
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person of deity and the
difference between that and say,
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the Creator's Son, which is of
course Michael, who is Jesus.
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Now, not since the times of
Jesus has the factual identity
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of the Paradise Trinity been
known on Urantia, except by a
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few individuals to whom it was
especially revealed until its
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presentation in these revelatory
disclosures.
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Now that that sentence right
there should jump out at you,
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because what the revelators are
telling us is that one of the
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key revelations that is coming
out of this particular book, the
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Urantia book, is a clear and
precise of of explanation of
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what the Paradise Trinity is and
why it is an important
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evolutionary step in religious
thought.
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They go on to say that the
conceptual grasp of the Trinity
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association of the Father, the
Son and Spirit prepares the
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human mind for the further
presentation of certain other
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threefold relationships.
So think of it this way, the the
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idea of a loving Father is not
exactly correlated with the idea
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of a deity force.
At least without the concept of
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understand of understanding how
God operates in this realm.
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How can he be a loving personal
father who has his hands in all
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of our human affairs, but by the
same time have a universe that
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operates under physical laws and
in some degree of order?
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And this is a stumbling block
for a lot of people when they
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try to understand the concept of
a spiritual father who was also
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the upholder of all things
physical gravity and everything
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else, energy, force.
And the two ideas do not
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commensurate so well, unless you
have the Trinity concept.
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And that's why they're
introducing it in in more
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clarity in these Urantia papers.
But and I'd never seen that
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sentence before the sentence
saying until the Trinity
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concept.
This is the next attempt to
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explain Trinity to human beings
in these tarantula papers.
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So let's continue on.
Theological reason may be fully
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satisfied by the concept of the
Paradise Trinity or even a
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personal all loving deity.
But philosophical and
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cosmological reason demand the
recognition of the infinite
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functions in various non father
capacities of universal
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manifestation, including the
relationships of the God of
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force, energy, power, causation,
reaction, potentiality,
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actuality, gravity, tension,
pattern, principle and unity.
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What is the unifying force of
all of these anticipants of the
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material world or the material
universe?
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And again I go back to you.
It's hard for many people to
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understand that a personal God
can at one and the same time
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also be a God of force and
energy.
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And this is perhaps why Trinity
introduces and bridges these.
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It harmonizes these two concepts
through the function of the
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Trinity that make any sense.
They go on to write.
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Mortal man is passing through a
great age of expanding horizons
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and enlarging concepts on
Urantia, and his cosmic
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philosophy must accelerate in
evolution to keep pace with the
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expansion of the intellectual
arena of human thought as as the
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cosmic consciousness.
He perceives the
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interrelatedness of all that he
finds in his material science
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and is and in his intellectual
philosophy and is his spiritual
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insight.
So could it be that the Trinity
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concept actually helps bring
these three arenas of reality
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into cohesion?
I'm asking you the Trinity, as
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it exposes the relationship
between God the Father, God the
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Son, and God the Spirit, then
allows us to make that
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connection between the material,
the morantial, and the
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spiritual.
They go on to say, still, with
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all this belief in the unity of
the cosmos, man perceives the
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diversity of all existence.
In spite of all concepts
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concerning the immutability of
deity, man perceives that he
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lives in a universe of constant
change and experiential growth.
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The Trinity provides the context
by which Deity can be seen
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manifest as both personal as
well as in functional unity.
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That is my interpretation, so
I'll say it again.
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The Trinity provides the context
by which Deity can be viewed or
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manifested as both personal as
well as in functional unity.
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God is both omnificent and
distributive through the
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understanding of the Trinity
relationship of God the Father,
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God the Son, and God the Spirit.
So God is both love and law,
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merciful and just, impersonal in
energy and force, but also
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qualitative and deeply loving as
a personal being, even the
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source of all that is energy and
especially all that is
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personality.
You know, one of the things that
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I like, one of the attributes
that I like and appreciate about
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the Oranga book, it how how it
does harmonize the three great
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realities of our experience, our
material world, our intellectual
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space and our spiritual
aspirations, things meaning,
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value.
And I hope that some of what I
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shared with you from Paper 104
helps you to have a better idea
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of the concept of the Trinity
and how it relates to not only a
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God of energy and a God of
force, but also a God of love
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and mercy.
And these are the things that
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Jesus spoke about.
So we'll see you again soon on
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the Urantia Radio podcast.
And of course, any questions or
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comments, always feel free to
reach out.
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The e-mail address is
urantiabookradio@gmail.com and
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it's been a pleasure to be with
you and I look forward to our
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next get together.
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Well, I hope you're doing great.
Thank you again.
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Another episode of the Rancho
Radio podcast and I want to talk
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about the Trinity.
It's I don't think I've ever
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talked about the Trinity.
It's from what I've been reading
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on Paper 104 and there's a lot
of good Nuggets in that, even
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though it's a very challenging
section of the book.
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If you notice in Part 3, as it
goes through the entirety of
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Part 3 of the Urantia book, it
gets a little bit more
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complicated and more complex up
to the point where they're
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talking about a lot of things
that it, it literally takes
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years to try to grasp and the
use of language is unbelievable.
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But they get to the part about
the Trinity.
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And what I've always found
interesting is that most
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religions in my own experience
about the Trinity is that people
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don't know or that they, they
say God the Father, God the Son
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and God the Spirit.
And in Catholicism, that's it's
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very prevalent in Catholicism,
but not so much in other
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branches of Christianity.
Like you won't hear a lot about
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the Trinity, I don't think in a
Baptist Church or in in in in a
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lot of Middle Eastern religions
Trinity is expressed through
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triune concepts, particularly in
Hinduism.
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So I've not really paid too much
attention to the Trinity
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concept, although I I think I
understand it more because I
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read the Urantia book and I
understand the relationship
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between God the Father, God the
Son, and God the Spirit.
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This particular paper is very
interesting and I want to pull
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out some really good notes about
it.
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And I think you'll have a better
appreciation of it too.
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Once we go through it.
It won't be a very long episode,
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but it's got a lot of good
interesting insight as to the
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nature of God.
So we'll continue in just a
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second here.
And I, I want to welcome you
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into the Your Rancher Radio
podcast.
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So the first question that
people will naturally ask is why
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is the Trinity concept
important?
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And in paper one O 4 of the
Urantia book, they explain why.
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And let me roll through some of
the more important comments and
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paragraphs, and then we'll weave
together the the context in
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which we could discover the
answer why the Trinity concept
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is such an important concept in
Christianity and indeed in
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understanding the relationship
of God.
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So it starts out with, it's
always difficult for an emerging
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monotheism to tolerate
Trinitarianism when confronted
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by polytheism.
The Trinity idea takes best hold
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of these religions, which have a
firm monotheistic tradition
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coupled with doctrinal
elasticity.
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The great monotheists, the
Hebrews and the Muhammadans
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found it difficult to
distinguish between worshipping
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3 gods, polytheism and
Trinitarianism, the worship of 1
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deity existing in a triune
manifestation of divinity and
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personality.
Now Jesus taught his apostles
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the truth regarding the persons
of the Paradise Trinity, but
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they thought he spoke
figuratively and symbolically.
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Having been nurtured in Hebraic
monotheism, they they found it
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difficult to entertain any
belief that seemed to conflict
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00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,520
with the dominating concept of
Yahweh.
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And the early Christians
inherited the Hebraic prejudice
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against the Trinity concept.
And this goes back to what I was
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saying a moment ago about how in
some factors or some traditions
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of Christianity, there's a
stronger presence than others of
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the Trinity concept.
Paul knew of the Paradise
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Trinity of Father, Son, and
Spirit, but he seldom preached
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about it and made mention
thereof in only a few of his
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letters to the newly forming
churches.
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Even then did his fellow
apostles.
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Paul confused Jesus, the
Creator, Son of the local
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universe, with the second person
of deity and the eternal son of
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paradise.
Now over the years of my
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discussions with fellow
Christians about the Urantia
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book, they get a little upset
when I say to them, no, Jesus is
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not the second person of of
Trinity.
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So I know by experience that
there is some a little bit of
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consternation on Christians when
they read about the second
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person of deity and the
difference between that and say,
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the Creator's Son, which is of
course Michael, who is Jesus.
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Now, not since the times of
Jesus has the factual identity
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of the Paradise Trinity been
known on Urantia, except by a
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few individuals to whom it was
especially revealed until its
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presentation in these revelatory
disclosures.
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Now that that sentence right
there should jump out at you,
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because what the revelators are
telling us is that one of the
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key revelations that is coming
out of this particular book, the
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Urantia book, is a clear and
precise of of explanation of
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what the Paradise Trinity is and
why it is an important
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evolutionary step in religious
thought.
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They go on to say that the
conceptual grasp of the Trinity
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association of the Father, the
Son and Spirit prepares the
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human mind for the further
presentation of certain other
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threefold relationships.
So think of it this way, the the
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idea of a loving Father is not
exactly correlated with the idea
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of a deity force.
At least without the concept of
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understand of understanding how
God operates in this realm.
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How can he be a loving personal
father who has his hands in all
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of our human affairs, but by the
same time have a universe that
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operates under physical laws and
in some degree of order?
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And this is a stumbling block
for a lot of people when they
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try to understand the concept of
a spiritual father who was also
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the upholder of all things
physical gravity and everything
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else, energy, force.
And the two ideas do not
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commensurate so well, unless you
have the Trinity concept.
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And that's why they're
introducing it in in more
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clarity in these Urantia papers.
But and I'd never seen that
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sentence before the sentence
saying until the Trinity
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concept.
This is the next attempt to
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explain Trinity to human beings
in these tarantula papers.
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So let's continue on.
Theological reason may be fully
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satisfied by the concept of the
Paradise Trinity or even a
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personal all loving deity.
But philosophical and
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cosmological reason demand the
recognition of the infinite
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functions in various non father
capacities of universal
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manifestation, including the
relationships of the God of
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force, energy, power, causation,
reaction, potentiality,
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actuality, gravity, tension,
pattern, principle and unity.
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What is the unifying force of
all of these anticipants of the
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material world or the material
universe?
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And again I go back to you.
It's hard for many people to
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understand that a personal God
can at one and the same time
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also be a God of force and
energy.
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And this is perhaps why Trinity
introduces and bridges these.
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It harmonizes these two concepts
through the function of the
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Trinity that make any sense.
They go on to write.
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Mortal man is passing through a
great age of expanding horizons
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and enlarging concepts on
Urantia, and his cosmic
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philosophy must accelerate in
evolution to keep pace with the
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expansion of the intellectual
arena of human thought as as the
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cosmic consciousness.
He perceives the
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interrelatedness of all that he
finds in his material science
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and is and in his intellectual
philosophy and is his spiritual
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insight.
So could it be that the Trinity
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concept actually helps bring
these three arenas of reality
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into cohesion?
I'm asking you the Trinity, as
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it exposes the relationship
between God the Father, God the
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Son, and God the Spirit, then
allows us to make that
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connection between the material,
the morantial, and the
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spiritual.
They go on to say, still, with
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all this belief in the unity of
the cosmos, man perceives the
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diversity of all existence.
In spite of all concepts
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concerning the immutability of
deity, man perceives that he
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lives in a universe of constant
change and experiential growth.
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The Trinity provides the context
by which Deity can be seen
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manifest as both personal as
well as in functional unity.
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That is my interpretation, so
I'll say it again.
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The Trinity provides the context
by which Deity can be viewed or
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manifested as both personal as
well as in functional unity.
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God is both omnificent and
distributive through the
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understanding of the Trinity
relationship of God the Father,
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God the Son, and God the Spirit.
So God is both love and law,
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merciful and just, impersonal in
energy and force, but also
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qualitative and deeply loving as
a personal being, even the
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source of all that is energy and
especially all that is
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personality.
You know, one of the things that
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I like, one of the attributes
that I like and appreciate about
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the Oranga book, it how how it
does harmonize the three great
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realities of our experience, our
material world, our intellectual
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space and our spiritual
aspirations, things meaning,
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value.
And I hope that some of what I
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shared with you from Paper 104
helps you to have a better idea
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of the concept of the Trinity
and how it relates to not only a
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God of energy and a God of
force, but also a God of love
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and mercy.
And these are the things that
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Jesus spoke about.
So we'll see you again soon on
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the Urantia Radio podcast.
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comments, always feel free to
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you and I look forward to our
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next get together.