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April 11, 2025

Matthew and Thomas

Matthew and Thomas
Matthew and Thomas
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Matthew and Thomas

We continue with our series on several of the more notable Apostles, as described in paper 139 of the Urantia Book.

We learn about the diverse backgrounda and personality of Matthew Levi, and his fellow Apostle Thomas Dydimus; what made these men tick, what was their family life like, and how did Jesus appeal to them?

Many readers relate to one or more of the Apostles, perhaps there are qualities in these two men that will touch your heart.

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Well, it's another day at
Urantia Radio, and I sure am

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glad that you decided to check
it out.

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And as you know, in the
preceding episodes, we've been

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taking a look at the Apostles 2
by 2.

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I don't know if we'll go through
all of them.

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I'm wanting more just to convey
the message that for a lot of

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people who were introduced to
the Urantia book, a really good

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place to start, especially if
you have any kind of Christian

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upbringing, are the papers
depicting the 12 apostles.

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And that would be in Part 4,
paper 139.

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And it is a great read and it's
inspiring and you learn a lot

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and you walk around in your head
thinking about these guys and

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then what their relationship was
with Jesus as he walked the

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earth.
And the character descriptions

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of each of these apostles is
very much in depth.

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And, and it's it's, it's a great
read.

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It's just an inspiring read.
So we're going to continue with

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Matthew and Thomas in this
edition.

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And then also I want to share a
very interesting and ennobling

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letter that was submitted to the
Mini Messenger.

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If you subscribe to the Mini
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association, I think it is and I
want to share with you and it

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has to do with Marancha Mota and
just an interesting take by the

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author.
So we'll get to that, all of

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that coming up.
And then also the Urantia Book

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School is just around the
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So once again, it is time to go
back to school.

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And of course, the Ranchi
Foundation offers free online

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courses from UBIS and it starts
on April 21st to kind of an

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appropriate day, huh?
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registering.
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register for class and you have
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you could take.
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world are also participating.
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writing exercise.
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guides everyone along.
And it's a very nice, nice thing

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to do for yourself.
And again, it's, it's, it's a

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way of studying the book in a
social setting and at a very

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good pace, which is very
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busy in these days.
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after Monday, April 21st.
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scientific symposium, there's
only a few more days left.

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I think Tuesday is the cutoff if
you want to make a presentation.

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And the symposium is going to be
in Chicago.

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And they do this annually and
that'll be on November 6th.

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And those are the two big events
coming up in the Urancha world.

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So let's get to Matthew Levi and
Thomas in just a second here.

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We'll take a quick break for the
sponsors and then we'll be

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talking about the apostles and,
and their story.

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Matthew Levi.
It's funny, we have a, a shelter

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in town and they, they get a lot
of publicity because they do a

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lot to feed the children and
clothe young people, people that

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are in poverty, impoverished
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And I, and after reading Matthew
Levi recently and I made the

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connection of how house it's a
place of charity.

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And when you read about Matthew,
you'll better understand that.

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So we'll take a quick break and
continue on the Rancho Radio

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podcast.
Matthew, the 7th apostle was

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chosen by Andrew.
Matthew belonged to a family of

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tax gatherers or Republicans,
but was himself a customs

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collector in Capernaum, where he
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He was 31 years old and married
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He was a man of moderate wealth,
the only one of any means

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belonging to the Apostolic Core.
He was a good businessman, a

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good social mixer, and was
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friends and to get along
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people.
Andrew appointed Matthew the

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financial representative of the
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In a way, he was the fiscal
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for the Apostolic organization.
He was a keen judge of human

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nature and a very efficient
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His is a personality difficult
to visualize, but he was a very

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earnest disciple and an
increasing believer in the

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mission of Jesus and in the
certainty of the Kingdom.

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Jesus never gave Levi a
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apostles commonly referred to
him as the money getter.

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Levi's strong point was his
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cause.
That he, a publican, had been

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taken in by Jesus and his
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overwhelming gratitude on the
part of the former revenue

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director.
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time for the rest of the
apostles, especially Simon

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Zealots and Judas Iscariot, to
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publicans presence in their
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Matthew's weakness was his short
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viewpoint of life, but in all of
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progress.
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He of course had to be absent
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seasons of instruction as it was
his duty to keep the treasury

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replenished.
It was the masters forgiving

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disposition which Matthew most
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He would never cease to recount
that faith only was necessary

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for the business of finding God.
He always liked to speak of the

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Kingdom as this business of
finding God.

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Though Matthew was a man with a
past, he gave an excellent

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account of himself, and as time
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proud of the publican's
performances.

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He was one of the apostles who
made extensive notes on the

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sayings of Jesus, and these
notes were used as the basis of

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Izidor's subsequent narrative of
the sayings and doings of Jesus,

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which has become known as the
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The great and useful life of
Matthew, the businessman and

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customs collector of Capernaum,
had been the means of leading

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thousands upon other
businessmen, public officials

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and politicians down through the
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Also to heed the engaging voice
of the Master saying, Follow me.

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Matthew really was a shrewd
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loyal to Jesus and supremely
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that the messages of the coming
Kingdom were adequately

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financed.
The presence of Matthew among

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the 12 was the means of keeping
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open to hosts of downhearted and
outcast souls who had regarded

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themselves as long since without
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consolation.
Outcast and despairing men and

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women flock to hear Jesus, and
he never turned 1 away.

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You know, there is sort of A and
especially in today's modern

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world, many people that are part
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they're busy and they're working
their, you know, tails off to

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make ends meet and succeed.
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focused on that you forget
about, you know, the, the

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spiritual aspects and the, and
the long term meaning of what

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you do and what you achieve.
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Matthew, he drew one from that
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People who are just always
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making, making it go.
And I, I think, you know,

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tradesmen, financiers, bankers,
people in high real estate and,

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and here is a case where one of
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teachings of Jesus.
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is that he sort of made that an
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religious and be successful at
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life.
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brought to the table.
Continuing on, Matthew received

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freely tendered offerings from
believing disciples and the

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immediate auditors of the
Master's teachings, but he never

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openly solicited funds from the
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He did all of his financial work
in a quiet and personal way, and

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raised most of the money among
the more abundant of the more

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substantial class of interested
believers.

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He gave practically the whole of
his modest fortune to the work

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of the Master and his apostles,
but they never knew of his

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generosity, save Jesus, who knew
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Matthew hesitated openly to
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for fear that Jesus and his
associates might regard his

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money as being tainted.
So he gave much in the name of

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others or other believers.
During the earlier months, when

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Matthew knew his presence among
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he was strongly tempted to let
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supplied them with their daily
bread, but he did not yield.

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When evidence of the disdain of
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manifest, Levi would would burn
to reveal to them his

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generosity, but always he
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That says a lot about his his
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He could brag and tell him,
well, look, I'm the one that

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made all of this possible.
But he didn't yield to that

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temptation.
That's a man of strong

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character.
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short of the estimated
requirements, Levi would often

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draw heavily upon his own
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Also, sometimes when he became
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teachings, he preferred to
remain and hear the instruction,

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even though he knew he must
personally make up for his

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failure to solicit the necessary
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But Levi did so wish that Jesus
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money came from his pocket.
He little realized that the

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Master knew all along about it.
The apostles all died without

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knowing that Matthew was their
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that when he went forth to
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Kingdom after the beginning of
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practically penniless.
When these persecutions caused

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the believers to forsake
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preaching the Gospel, the
Kingdom, and baptizing

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believers.
He was lost to the knowledge of

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his former Apostolic
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preaching and baptizing through
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Bithynia, and Thrace.
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Lysimachia that certain
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the Roman soldiers to encompass
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public, and died triumphant in
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He had so surely learned from
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during his recent sojourn on
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Thomas was the 8th apostle, and
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In later times he had become
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his fellow apostles hardly
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doubter.
True, he was a logical,

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skeptical kind of mine, but he
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which forbade those who knew him
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trifling skeptic.
When Thomas joined the apostles,

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he was 29 years old, was
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Formerly he had been a Carpenter
in stonemason, but latterly he

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had become a fisherman and
resided at Terekia, situate on

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the West Bank of the Jordan,
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Galilee, and he was regarded as
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little village.
He had little education, but he

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possessed a keen reasoning mind,
and was the son of excellent

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parents who lived in Tiberius.
Thomas had the one truly

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analytical mind of the 12.
He was the real scientist of the

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Apostolic group.
The early home of life Thomas

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had been unfortunate.
His parents were not altogether

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happy in their married life, and
this was reflected in Thomas's

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adult experience.
He grew up having a very

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disagreeable and quarrelsome
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Even his wife was glad to see
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She was relieved by the thought
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would be away from home most of
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Thomas also had a streak of
suspicion which made it very

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difficult to get along peaceably
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Peter was very much upset by
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his brother Andrew that Thomas
was mean, ugly and always

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suspicious.
But the better his associates

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knew Thomas, the more they liked
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They found he was superbly
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He was perfectly sincere and
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But he was a natural born fault
Finder and had grown up to

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become a real pessimist.
His analytical mind had become

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cursed with suspicion.
He was rapidly losing faith in

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his fellow mortal men when he
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and thus came in contact with
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This association with the Master
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Thomas's whole disposition and
to affect great changes in his

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mental reactions to his fellow
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Thomas's great strength was his
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with his unflinching courage
when he had once made-up his

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mind.
His great weakness was his

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suspicious doubting, which he
never fully overcame throughout

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his whole lifetime in the flesh.
In the organization of the 12,

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Thomas was assigned to arrange
and manage the itinerary, and he

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was an able director of the work
and movements of the Apostolic

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Group.
He was a good executive and

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excellent businessman.
He was handicapped by his many

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moods.
He was one man one day and

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another man the next.
He was inclined toward

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melancholic brooding when he
joined the apostles, but contact

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with Jesus and the apostles
largely cured him of this morbid

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introspection.
Jesus enjoyed Thomas very much

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and had many long personal talks
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His presence among the apostles
was a great comfort to all

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honest doubters and encouraged
many troubled minds to come into

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the Kingdom, even if they could
not wholly understand everything

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about the spiritual and
philosophic phases of the

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teachings of Jesus.
Thomas's membership in the 12

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was a standing declaration that
Jesus loved even honest

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doubters.
The other apostles held Jesus in

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reverence because of some
special and outstanding trait of

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his replete personality, but
Thomas revered his master

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because of his superbly balanced
character.

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Increasingly Thomas admired and
honored one who was so lovingly

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merciful, yet so inflexibly,
just and fair.

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So firm but never obstinate, so
calm but never indifferent, so

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helpful and so sympathetic, but
never meddlesome or dictatorial.

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So strong but at the same time
so gentle, so positive, but

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never rough or rude, so tender
but never vacillating.

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So pure and innocent, but at the
same time so virile, aggressive

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and forceful.
So truly courageous, but never

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rash or foolhardy.
Such a lover of nature, but so

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free from all tendency to Revere
nature.

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So humorous and so playful, but
so free from levity and

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frivolity.
It was this matchless symmetry

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of personality that so charmed
Thomas.

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He probably enjoyed the highest
intellectual understanding and

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personality appreciation of
Jesus of any of the 12 in the

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councils of the 12.
Thomas was always cautious,

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advocating a policy of safety
first.

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But if his conservatism was
voted down or overruled, he was

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always the first fearlessly to
move out in execution of the

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program decided upon.
Again and again he would stand

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out against some project as
being foolhardy and

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presumptuous, but he would
debate to the bitter end.

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But when Andrew would put the
proposition to a vote, and after

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the 12 would elect to do that
which he had so strenuously

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opposed, Thomas was the first to
say, let's go.

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He was a good loser.
He did not hold grudges nor

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nurse wounded feelings.
Time and again did he oppose

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letting Jesus expose himself to
danger.

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But when the Master would decide
to take such risks, always was

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it Thomas who rallied the
apostles with his courageous

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words.
Come on, comrades, let's go and

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die with him.
Thomas was in some respect like

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Philip.
He also wanted to be shown.

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But his outward expressions of
doubt were based on entirely

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different intellectual
operations.

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Thomas was analytical, not
merely skeptical.

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As far as personal physical,
physical courage was concerned,

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he was one of the bravest among
the 12.

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Thomas also had some very bad
days.

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He was blue and downcast at
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The loss of his twin sister when
he was nine years old had

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occasioned him much youthful
sorrow and had added to his

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temperamental problems of later
life when Thomas would become

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despondent.
Sometimes it was Nathaniel who

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helped him to recover, sometimes
Peter and not hit, frequently

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one of the Alpheus twins when he
was most depressed.

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Unfortunately, he always tried
to avoid coming in direct

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contact with Jesus, but the
Master knew all about this and

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had an understanding sympathy
for his apostle when he was thus

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afflicted with depression and
harassed by doubts.

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Sometimes Thomas would go get
permission from Andrew to go off

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by himself for a day or two, but
he soon learned that such a

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course was not wise.
He early found that it was best

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when he was downhearted to stick
close to his work and to remain

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near his associates.
But no matter what happened in

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his emotional life, he kept
right on being an apostle.

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When the time actually came to
move forward, it was always

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Thomas who said, let's go.
Thomas is the great example of a

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human being who has doubts,
faces them, and wins.

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He had a great mind.
He was no carping critic.

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He was a logical thinker.
He was the acid test of Jesus

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and his fellow apostles.
If Jesus and his work had not

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been genuine, it could not have
held a man like Thomas from the

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start to the finish.
He had a keen and sure sense of

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fact.
At the first appearance of fraud

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or deception, Thomas would have
forsaken them all.

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Scientists may not fully
understand all about Jesus and

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his work on earth, but there
lived and worked with the Master

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and his human associates.
A man whose mind was that of a

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true scientist, Thomas Didymus,
and he believed in Jesus

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Nazareth.
Thomas had a trying time during

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the days of the trial and
crucifixion.

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He was for a season in the
depths of despair, but he

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rallied his courage, stuck to
the apostles, and was present

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with them to welcome Jesus on
the Sea of Galilee.

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For a while he succumbed to his
doubting depression, but

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eventually rallied his faith and
courage.

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He gave wise counsel to the
apostles after Pentecost, and

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when persecution scattered, the
believers went to Cyprus, Crete,

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the North African coast and
Sicily, preaching the glad

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tidings of the Kingdom and
baptizing believers.

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And Thomas continued preaching
and baptizing until he was

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apprehended by the agents of the
Roman government and was put to

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death in Malta.
Just a few weeks before his

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death he had begun the writings
of the life and teachings of

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Jesus.
And so there you have two

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stories of two men who had their
lives completely changed by

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their meeting and getting to
know the Son of Man.

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And they faithfully served their
their role.

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They took Jesus's words and, and
his deeds and what they learned

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of the man and the relationship
that they had.

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And they went out and spread the
gospel of the Kingdom.

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And it were not for the unseen
friends that compose the 4th

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part of the Urantia book and the
Revelation we would never know

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about these very unique men.
I think that's one of the

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reasons why having known these
names all of our lives and have

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having heard about them or heard
them quoted in Scripture.

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But to actually know, for
example, that Thomas had a twin

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sister, there's nowhere in
history where that is stated.

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But it would explain some of his
downcast moods that we do know

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about.
And Matthew having the the bad

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reputation of being a publican
and knowing secretly that he was

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funding many of the the
activities behind the scenes.

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The apostles were not even
aware.

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Taking his own money and making
sure to keep the program going

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for the the public teaching and
the preaching of Jesus and these

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12 men who dedicated their lives
to following this man and

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teaching his gospel to the rest
of the world.

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So truly a remarkable series and
a great example of the the

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craftsmanship and the literary
beauty of the Urantia book and

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and the Urantia papers.
So Speaking of which, we're

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going to take a quick break and
move on to the next episode.

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And it we're going to explore a
wonderful letter that was

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submitted to the mini messenger
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from time to time.
And this one has to do with

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Marancha Moda.
And if you're not familiar with

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it, we'll go over it in the next
segment.

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So for for now, thank you.
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