Jesus on Morality, Time and Space

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All is fine in Florida, where
I'm at, where I've been since we

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started this podcast.
And I want to thank those who

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wrote and emailed and called
while things were a little hairy

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and scary.
And just to let you know that

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for the most part, everything is
fine here, although I can't

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speak for the 10s of thousands
of people around the country who

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are enduring quite a bit of
hardship.

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And yeah, you know, I see it on
TV and it looks pretty awful.

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And I've been through that
before.

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And I think if we go back to a
couple of years ago, I provided

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some content on the last
hurricane that I was in.

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And again, it's, it's just the
process of life.

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And I'll tell you though, I am
assured and I feel good that

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these things always bring out
the best in people.

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There's no question about that.
So in the last episode or the

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last podcast, we've been would
have been delving into the the

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actual words of Jesus throughout
his life.

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And we're focusing on that
period just before he went about

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his public preaching and
teaching.

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And, and now we're in the phase
where his actual public

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teachings are sort of wrapping
up and, and he took time to

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speak about certain things that
just when you read them, it's

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absolutely amazing.
And last time we explored what

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the master said about reality
itself.

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And now from from, I think it's
paper 143 or it's.

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Yeah.
And now he's going to give a

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discourse on time and space.
And time and space are two huge

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preoccupations of modern science
and philosophy as well.

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And so the pretext to this is
that these are the words of

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Christ as he communicated them
to the people of his day and

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age.
But they have been sort of

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updated to our own English.
And so the revelators, they,

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they wanted the truths of what
Jesus taught these people to

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also teach us.
And so on time and space, the

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story starts here.
And he is talking to people

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privately, and he's teaching
them the the Creator Son of the

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universe, the bestowal son, in
the presence of these men is

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teaching them about the
realities of time and space.

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So it reads that at Carthage
Jesus had a long and memorable

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talk with a Mithraic priest
about immortality, about time

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and eternity.
Now this Persian had been

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educated at Alexandria and he
really desired to learn from

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Jesus put into the words of
today.

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In substance, Jesus said in
answer to his many questions,

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Time is the stream of flowing
temporal events perceived by

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creature consciousness.
Time is a name given to the

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succession arrangements whereby
events are recognized and

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segregated.
The universe of space is a time

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related phenomenon as it is
viewed from any interior

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position outside of the fixed
abode of Paradise.

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The motion of time is only
revealed in relation to

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something which does not move in
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As a time phenomena in the
universe of universes, Paradise

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and its deities transcend both
time and space on the inhabited

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worlds.
Human personality, indwelt and

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oriented by the Paradise
Father's spirit, is the only

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physically related reality which
can transcend the material

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sequence of temporal events.
Animals do not sense time as man

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does, and even to man, because
of his sectional and

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circumscribed view, time appears
as a succession of events.

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But as man ascends, as he
progresses inward, the enlarging

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view of this event procession is
that is such that it is

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discerned more and more in its
wholeness.

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That which formerly appeared as
a succession of events, then,

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will be viewed as a whole and
perfectly related cycle.

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In this way, will circular
simultaneity increasingly

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displace the one time
consciousness of the linear

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sequence of events.
There are 7 different

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conceptions of space as it is
conditioned by time.

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Space is measured by time, not
time by space.

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The confusion of the scientist.
Now remember, this is the

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Creator's Son teaching mankind.
The confusion of the scientists

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grows out of the failure to
recognize the reality of space.

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Space is not merely an
intellectual concept of the

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variation in relatedness of
universe objects.

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Space is not empty, and the only
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partially transcend space is
mind.

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Mind can function independently
of the concept of space

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relatedness of material objects.
Space is relatively and

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comparatively finite to all
beings of creature status.

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The nearer consciousness
approaches the awareness of

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seven cosmic dimensions, the
more does the concept of

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potential space approach
ultimacy.

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But the space potential is truly
ultimate only on the absolute

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level.
It may be apparent that

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universal reality has an
expanding and always relative

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meaning on the ascending and
perfecting levels of the cosmos.

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Ultimately, surviving mortals
achieve identity in A7

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dimensional universe.
The time space concept of a mind

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of material origin is destined
to undergo successive

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enlargements as the conscious
and conceiving personality

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ascends the level or the levels
of the universe.

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So with each stage of those
seven cosmic dimensions, we, our

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vision, our spiritual vision,
our visual, our mind

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appreciation and and conceptual
understanding will expand

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sevenfold.
The enlarging cosmic conceptions

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of an advancing spirit
personality are due to the

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augmentations of both depth of
insight and scope of

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consciousness.
So as we ascend, our

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consciousness enlarges, we're
able to appreciate our minds

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become almost super, and as
personality passes on upward and

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inward to the transcendental
levels of Deity, the time space

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concept will increasingly
approximate the timeless and

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spaceless concepts of the
absolutes or of God.

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Relatively and in accordance
with transcendental attainment.

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These concepts of the absolute
level are to be envisioned by

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the children of ultimate
destiny.

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So we were destined to at one
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able to see the universe as God
sees the universe, and He is the

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only thing in the universe that
doesn't change.

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He is from the outside looking
in, so he sees the whole

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picture.
This is when you hear Preacher

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say that God is never surprised.
He never is surprised by events.

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He's not surprised by human
nature because he's already seen

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it.
He knows the future.

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He knows how his will is
projected to be fulfilled.

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We are a part of that process.
And as we ascend in his

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universe, we become more
cognitive, more perceptive of,

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of understanding the wholeness
of, of any given situation.

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And when you're a father and you
look at your children, you have

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the insight that they don't
have.

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And so you are more patient with
them because you know to a

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certain degree at least what
their life is going to or not

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specifically what's going to
happen, but a series of things

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do occur as each of us grow.
And and then that sort of gives

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you a, a glimpse of the
perception of how God views the

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living universe.
So that's Jesus talking about

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some pretty heavy subjects
there, time and space.

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And he was speaking that to a
Mithraic priest.

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And that priest actually went on
to become a huge supporter of

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the early Christian Church.
And I think we have time for one

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more.
I wanted to do this too on

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values.
It was at Angamon.

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This is from Paper 132 and this
is on values and this again is

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the Creator's Son, the bestowal
son of the living Father,

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sharing truth along the way to
those people he met on and

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during his sojourn in Rome.
So from paper 132, it's brief.

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It was at Agambon, the leader of
the Stoics, that Jesus had an

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all night talk early during this
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This man subsequently became a
great friend of Paul and proved

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to be one of the strong
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Church at Rome.
In substance and restated in

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modern phraseology, Jesus taught
Angamon the standard of true

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values must be looked for in the
spiritual world and on divine

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levels of eternal reality.
To an ascending mortal.

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All lower and material standards
must be recognized as transient,

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partial, and inferior.
The scientist as such is limited

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to the discovery of the
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Technically, he has no right to
assert that he is either a

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materialist or an idealist, for
in so doing he is assumed to

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forsake the attitude of a true
scientist, since any and all

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such assertions of attitude are
the very essence of philosophy.

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Unless the moral insight and the
spiritual attainment of mankind

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can proportionally be augmented,
the unlimited advancement of a

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purely materialistic culture may
eventually become a menace to

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civilization.
A purely materialistic science

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harbors within in itself the
potential seed of the

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destruction of all scientific
striving.

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For this very attitude presages
the ultimate collapse of a

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civilization which has abandoned
its sense of moral values and

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has repudiated its spiritual
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The materialistic scientist and
the extreme idealist are

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destined always to be at
loggerheads.

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This is not true of those
scientists and idealists who are

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in possession of a common
standard of high moral values

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and spiritual test levels.
In every age.

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Scientists and religionists must
recognize that they are on trial

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before the bar of human need.
They must eschew all warfare

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between themselves while they
strive valiantly to justify

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their continued survival by
enhanced devotion to the service

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of human progress.
If the so-called science or

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religion of any age is false,
then it must either purify its

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activities or pass away before
the emergence of a material

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science or spiritual religion of
a truer and more worthy order.

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And those are the thoughts and
teachings of Jesus as they were

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2000 years ago for us to
ruminate upon.

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And with that, we'll continue to
pull these gems of knowledge and

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truth from the life and
teachings of Jesus on this The

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Urantia Radio Podcast on
December 14th.

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I will be doing a presentation.
Thanks to the folks at the

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fellowship and I appreciate the
opportunity and I'm going to be

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speaking on a book that I am in
the process of rewriting, which

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is called Godless, How
secularism is destroying

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society.
I would urge you to buy the book

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after I have revised it, not the
current edition.

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The current edition is
incomplete and I want to have

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another stab at it, but a lot of
interesting thoughts that are

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related to the problems that
we're having today are directly

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a result of secularism.
And in fact, Jesus just sort of

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gave testimony to that from this
paper from 1:32.

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So on the 14th of December, if
you want to join, go to the

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fellowship page, or you can go
to just e-mail me and I'll send

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you the link.
How about that?

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And you can join me in my
dissertation on how secularism

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is a menace to society.
And until next time, if you want

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to reach me or the program, Your
Rancher book, radio@gmail.com.

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Your Rancher book,
radio@gmail.com.

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And until next time, I sure
appreciate you stopping by.

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And I hope that you'll share
this podcast with your friends

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and fellow seekers of truth.
Until next time.

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Until we speak again.
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