Is The Urantia Book the Third Testament?

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Well, I hope that Spotify will
allow me to play this just once.

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I I like to dig of it.
It kind of reminds me of it,

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like punk sort of new wave stuff
back in the 70s.

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Welcome to the latest edition of
the Rancho Radio Podcast.

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Yeah, it's me, Jim Watkins.
I hope you had a great week, and

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I hope you were able to
celebrate Michael's birthday on

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the 21st, as we all did.
I think I did a podcast where we

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got to talk a little bit about
that.

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And the numbers keep growing on
numbers of listeners.

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And I'm really thrilled because
frankly, we are, I think,

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starting to head into a
different period of humanity and

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it seems to be more and more
evident.

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I, I could have decided that
maybe the COVID # pandemic was a

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bit of a one off, you know, one
of those periodic exclamation

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points on the pages of human
history and that it could go

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away.
But it's actually created its

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own new set of problems.
One it is, it has struck a

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dagger into the global
community.

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It have you ever like as an
example, like if you

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accidentally step on an anthill
and everything goes scattering,

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all the ants just scatter,
right?

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And that's what sort of happened
with the pandemic and, and the

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way the different countries were
exercising their, their ability

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to govern.
But it's also sort of spawned

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its own animal.
And that is the, that these

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large corporations are really
start starting to put an

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emphasis on controlling the
narrative.

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And you know, these stockbrokers
from these major companies, they

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never want to admit when they
make mistakes, just like

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government officials don't want
to admit when they make

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mistakes.
But my goodness, if you look

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around at all the, the, the
stuff that's going on in big

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cities, particularly with
homelessness, and particularly

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with the way that people in, in
these cities are, are turning

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into zombies before our eyes.
It's strange.

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And it's unsettling really.
And I want to explore a couple

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of things this time.
I don't think we're going to

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read from any particular paper
except for this.

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I, I want to, I lifted this clip
and it's from page.

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Is it paper 190?
It's the one-on-one O 7 or one

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of those on the social problems
of religion.

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And I've read that section
probably a dozen times in my

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life and, and every time I read
from it, it's great.

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But it has some pointers as to
why religion, in particular

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Christianity is, is challenged
right now.

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It's challenged on a couple of
different fronts. 1 is that you

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have a great population and
governments that absolutely

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despise religion for a whole
host of reasons.

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Some of it is just reaction
through the Enlightenment and

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the age of so-called reason.
And we've talked about science

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and how science is asserting
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truth and how it's become quite
dogmatic.

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In fact, I make the argument in
my pot on my book, which you can

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buy on Amazon if you go to my
web page, which is your

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rancherradio.net and you can see
it.

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It's called godlessness, how
secularism is destroying

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civilization or society.
And it's a quick read.

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It's maybe 60 pages, but it goes
into depth about what's happened

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and a lot of it.
If you're a Urantia book reader,

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you would really appreciate it
because much of the motivation

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to writing that short book is
based on paper 195 of the

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Urantia book and, and that
period that we're going through

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in this post Christian era.
And you can attach all kinds of

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things to it.
You know, you know, it's hard

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not to get lost in the morass
because there are a lot of

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Christians right now who, and I
interview a lot of them and they

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talk about these for the end
times.

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And what's happening in Israel
is, is you know, they somebody

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told me go to Ezekiel 33 and to
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And it talks about how Israel is
being surrounded on all sides

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and how its destruction seems
eminent.

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And Ezekiel is given this, this
great vision of, of what's to

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come.
But again, like a lot of things,

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especially Revelation, there are
so many symbols and metaphors.

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It's really hard to extrapolate
anything concrete.

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I mean, everything is up for
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You can open up Revelation,
Revelations and read all of it.

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And it's some of it seems like,
Oh my God, that's happening

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right now.
Oh, yeah, this is it.

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But then it's not concrete.
At least the Urantia book

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provides a little bit of
clarity.

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And it doesn't say that the
Second Coming is right around

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the corner.
It doesn't say that Jerusalem is

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going to come down.
It doesn't.

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It may tends to lend itself to
the idea that at any day

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Melchizedek could come or Jesus
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one day return.
It's speculative, but I don't I,

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I think we're far, far away from
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The problems that we have today
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have to work out for, for
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And this is what this particular
section on that social problems

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of religion, I think it's paper
one O 9, but let me read it to

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you and then we can discuss.
Man's greatest spiritual

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jeopardy consists in partial
progress, the predicament of

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unfinished growth, forsaking the
evolutionary religions of fear

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without immediately grasping the
revelatory religion of love.

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Modern science, particularly
psychology, has weakened only

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those religions which are so
largely dependent upon fear,

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superstition, and emotion.
OK, so let's take a look at

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that.
So the first section, the man's

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greatest spiritual jeopardy,
consists in partial progress.

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What do they mean?
OK, so when the Enlightenment

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period came, it suddenly
released mankind from the chains

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of a very dogmatic religious
institution, mainly the

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Christian or Catholic Church.
They had control over everything

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that was going on.
They controlled the kings

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because they did it mostly
through fear.

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And these, these priests were
very powerful and they were very

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frightening and they could
cancel you in their own way by

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sending your ass off to
purgatory, you know, or even

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worse, not being able to receive
grace or salvation.

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This was what gave the church
its power.

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So when science came along and
started poking holes and

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explaining through the
experimental method and

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scientific method why certain
things happened, well, it

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started to eliminate the
superstition and the fear that

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gave religion its strength.
And that's the Enlightenment.

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And it even talks about how
secularism in Paper 195 again,

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was a way of freeing man from
the dogmatic control of

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religion.
Now, what's happened today is

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that we've thrown out the baby
with the bathwater.

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And I think that's what they
mean, is that while we've been

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forsaking the evolutionary
religions of time, the ones that

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are based on fear, the danger is
the predicament of unfinished

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growth.
So we've thrown out the religion

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of fear, but we have not
captured the revelatory religion

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of love, which is that this is a
grand universe.

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God is a real person, as Jesus
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teachings and in his life, and
that we we haven't grasped on to

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that next, you know, like when
you're swinging through the

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jungle and you have a vine, We
haven't grabbed on to that next

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forward evolutionary vine, that
vine being the religion of love

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that would inspire us to treat
each other like brothers.

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And in the Oranget book says,
and so does the Bible, that

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there's you can't have
brotherhood without fatherhood.

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All right.
So it goes on to say the

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transition is always accompanied
by confusion.

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And there will be a little,
there'll be little tranquility

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in the religious world until the
great struggle between the three

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contending philosophies of
religion is ended.

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OK, so right now at play are
three different ideologies.

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What are they?
And they, they spell it out

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right here #1 the spiritistic
belief in a providential deity

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of many religions and includes
the many different factions of

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the Christian Church and the
Catholic Church and all kinds of

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religions that all have a
providential deity, Islam.

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OK, so now that that's the chief
spiritual ideology providential

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the the variations of the same,
but that they all have in common

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a providential deity #2 is an
ideology that's now taking

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control, which is the humanistic
and idealistic belief of many

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philosophies.
And I would, I would term these

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like new age religions sort of
fall into this group beliefs in,

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in, in alien life forms or some
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alone and we're going, we're,
you know, and that's kind of

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similar to the Urantia book
because the Urantia book very

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clearly states that we are for
as a, for example, we're where

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your ranch is six O 6, which
means in our system, there are

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605 worlds that evolved before
we got here, out there somewhere

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in our local region of space.
And we just haven't come in come

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into contact with them.
But they're on an evolutionary

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path just as we are.
They just might be further along

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than we are.
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So that kind of falls into the
humanistic or the idealistic

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belief of many philosophies.
Gaia is another philosophy that

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is sort of dominated the New Age
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And then there's, of course, you
know, you have to give it some

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nod that the whole transgender
LGBTQ movement is its own sort

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of humanistic religion, and
everything is around the

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centeredness of the human
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Identity now is being
fetishized, and it's become a

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religion of its own.
And then, of course, there's the

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third, which is the mechanistic
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many sciences.
So therein lies the secularistic

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viewpoint, which is this is a
mechanical universe.

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There was a Big Bang, and we're
all here sort of on accident.

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There's no great purpose to it
other than the fact of what we

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get out of it.
And that's sort of the natural

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Law Group and the scientist, the
nihilistic scientist.

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OK, so those are three
ideologies that are all at

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battle with each other.
They're fighting each other

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right now for dominance and in a
in a country like China, they

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have adopted the third, the
mechanistic and naturalistic

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conceptions, which is that the
governments can do.

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It's governments are their job
is to be the God of society to

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keep control.
It's a very humanistic belief

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because it it erases any notion
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anything like that.
So these three sort of

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ideologies are are fighting each
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This is what the Urantia book
says about this.

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And these three partial
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cosmos must eventually become
harmonized by the revelatory

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presentation of religion,
philosophy, and cosmology, one

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that will portray the triune
existence of spirit, mind, and

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energy proceeding from the
Trinity of Paradise.

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Now, what does the Urantia Book
teach?

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The Urantia Book teaches that
religion is not concerned with

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science.
Religion and science are not

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really at odds.
Religion's only concern is the

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scientist, the enduring
permeability of the human soul

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which has eternal ascension
potential.

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Science can't prove why we would
translate into a spirit form,

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but spirit drives mind.
Mind is to spirit what

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materialism is to mind.
Mind is a non material energy

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form.
We don't know what makes mind

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work.
I'll give you a fun example is

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this.
I've got a dog and a cat, and

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often times they'll sit in the
living room and they'll look at

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each other, but they don't even
communicate.

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And I think that they're barely
even recognizing the fact that

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the other exists.
So their minds are not connected

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at all.
But ours, our you're hearing my

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voice.
I'm translating my thoughts into

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a language that you understand,
and you're able to interpret

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that same language and it
becomes your thoughts.

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And it even spurs you to have
original spontaneous reactions

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to what I'm saying.
So if I say to you, drop the red

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ball, boom, you already know
that you can envision a red ball

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dropping.
And that's the magic of mind.

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And that mind is the conjoint
actor in in motion.

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The mind was, if you know the
third person of deity, the

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conjoint actor.
The infinite spirit is the same

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divine mind that permeates
throughout the universe and

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makes it possible for all of us
minded beings to be able to

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communicate with each other.
And when Andon and Fonta were

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able to communicate with each
other, that's when they were

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bestowed the spirit because at
once the mind was able to

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connect with another human
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but we did.
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mind once the physical apparatus
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of, of computers, you know, it's
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old Macs, they can't perform all
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because they're in their infancy
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handle the, the more advanced
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have to run.
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evolutionary development of the
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that threshold where it has
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Now when Jesus taught us, and
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with this because I think with
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let me finish this thought.
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person, that he was a loving
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father.
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entire heart and he spent his
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about the anger God or not about
this deity that sits on high and

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judges all of us for our moral
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He pushed all that away.
A lot of religions today, they

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still hang on to all of this
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They still hang on to original
sin and and modern people are

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not going to accept it.
They are no longer unless they

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just need the emotional support
and they need to know that, you

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know, they, those things make
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The emotion of religion, which
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grace, for example.
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they don't get that they don't
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means.
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darkest, most dire moment where
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realization, which is sad
because to me and to others, new

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religion to me is a philosophy
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But knowing that that moment is
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moments and they continue on and
religion has has little appeal

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to people who don't like the
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superstition and believing in
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I know atheists who many of the
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the Christian Church because
they don't believe in virgin

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birth.
It's like you want me to believe

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in something that's against
natural law in order to believe

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in something that's supposed to
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The Urantia book writers
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issue, saying that we we need to
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What what is going to connect
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believe that the answer is in my
next topic, which I want to get

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into here.
If you're still with me on this,

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and this has to do with what I
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And I and I would I would I
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about this, the Urantia book is
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OK, and when I what do I mean by
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So the Old Testament followed by
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The the New Testament
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It concluded the journey of the
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containing Genesis and Exodus.
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God, the prophets, the ones who
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Urantia book tells us goes back
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was the arrival of the Nodites
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civilization before the Lucifer
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So there was a period of early
human history where man was

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given basic truths and basic
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those eras that wrote things

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down, they were part of the Old
Testament and it be and it

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became the foundation for the
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And the Hebrew faith carried the
morsels of truth forward from

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the days of of the mighty men of
old, the days that are in the

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fragmented pieces of the stories
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Adam and Eve were the second
revelation and it was included

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in the Old Testament.
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learned that the Son of Man, the
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making a visit.
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is they perpetuated the story
and it was carried down through

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all of the olden prophets.
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bulk of the Hebrew theology
carried the truths that there

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would one day be a deliverer.
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prophesied that Jesus or the Son
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come.
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from Adam and Eve.
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the Urantia book, it explains
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that Christ had decided that
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of his final bestowal.
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becomes the conclusion, the
fulfillment of of what they had

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hoped for and what they were
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carries us forward 2000 years

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and the teachings of Jesus are
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The teachings of Jesus.
If you profess a belief in Jesus

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in many parts of the world, you
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society.
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are being written today, they're
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Christian method.
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actually believe that wearing a
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So this is how far we've come.
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in the early part of the 20th
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teachings of Jesus and a sort of
the preamble to that, which is

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an announcement.
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The announcement is that you are
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a loving and personal Father,
but you are part of a grand

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universe that is filled with
other civilizations that also

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worship the same Father.
So what is the what is the point

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of all this?
A new Christian thought and this

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is what I wanted to discuss.
I share in my belief in the

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divinity of Jesus Christ with
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There are a lot of things that I
don't believe in the Bible that

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that some doctrinal differences
if you will, but at its essence

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I believe that Jesus Christ is
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and is the Son of man.
I share that with my friends and

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I share that with my Christian
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What I also declare to be true
because the Urantia book extends

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that view out.
Not only is Jesus Christ the son

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of this world, but he is the son
of millions of other worlds, 10

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million to be exact.
Or at least one day that will be

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true when Nebadon has can
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maximum potential of 10 million
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And that's why it's so special
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amazing that you should consider
yourself quite fortunate, you

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people that live on Urantia,
because not only did the Son of

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Man come to your world, but he
had, you know, millions of other

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worlds that he could have gone
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But he chose your world because
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place to exhibit God.
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particularly Christians who have
grown tired of the

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ecclesiastical and dogmatic
authority of the Christian

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Church, they feel like I want to
get to know Jesus Christ, but it

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comes with all these other
conditions if I want to do it

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through the traditional church
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I think today's believer that
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materialism would love to know
the idea that we're we're not

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alone, that that spirituality is
not confined to just one little

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world.
Didn't we are part of a greater,

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greater, fantastically wonderful
exercise, which is the growth of

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the grand universe.
Be you perfect, even as God is

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perfect, God is expanding
outward and we get to be a part

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of that process.
I think that the, that's a

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philosophy that you can carry
with you, with you in your life.

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You're living for today, but
you're also living for tomorrow.

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You're living for the future and
you get to carry forward all,

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all of your valuable human
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I, I just can't imagine anybody
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So I'll leave it there.
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want to title this as the, the
third testament.

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What is the third Testament?
And I truly believe that the

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Oranja book is giving us an
answer on how we can save

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Christianity from becoming just
a, you know, something that

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those people, you know, worship.
And it loses its salt, and then

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it lies dormant until some
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And in the meantime, we're
living in the dark ages again,

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materialism and totalitarianism
and all the other tyranny.

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Anyway, it's a dangerous world
out there, and I hope that I've

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inspired you at least a little
bit.

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If you have a question or a
comment, e-mail me at

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yourrancherbookradio@gmail.com,
your rancher book,

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radio@gmail.com.
And until next time, thank you

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again for sharing the podcast
with for with fellow seekers of

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the truth.
See you next time.