July 2, 2024
Endowed by God
As we celebrate liberty in the U.S, its a good time to look at the difference between good liberty and bad liberty. The Urantia Book explains how free will, liberty and moral discernment play a huge role in the progress of man as well as nations, planets and even systems of worlds.
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Welcome to another wonderful,
wonderful edition of the Urantia
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Radio Podcast.
That's where I get to spend a
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little while with you, talking
about my most favorite subject
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in the whole wide world, the
Urantia book Revelation.
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You know, I take walks now, and
I would recommend it for anybody
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who's looking for a way to kind
of ease their way back into more
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physical activity.
And I forgot, I used to walk a
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lot when I was a kid.
And now that I'm walking every
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day, I start my day with a nice
walk.
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I don't take my Airpods or my
earbuds.
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I don't listen to the radio.
That's my time with my, my inner
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attempt to have conversations
and just feel the presence of
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God in my in my mind and in my
being.
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And often times I come up with a
lot of great ideas on what I
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want to talk about on the next
episode of the podcast.
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And I actually have two
subjects.
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The 1st is going to be what this
podcast is about, and then the
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next one is going to be about
something that you're hearing
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about in the news, especially if
you listen to news about the
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astronomy or the James Webb
telescope or space discoveries,
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something called a Dyson sphere.
And I'll get into that a little
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bit.
I think you'll be very
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fascinating.
It's going to be the next
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podcast.
But for this one, because it's
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the week where Americans and
people around the world
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celebrate the independence of
the United States, I thought we
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would take a look at liberty,
liberty, human behavior.
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When is liberty good and when is
liberty bad?
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And the turns out that the
Urantia book revelators have a
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lot to teach about the subject.
That's what we're going to get
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into.
Thank you again for stopping by.
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This is the Urantia Radio
podcast.
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Take a quick break.
You know, a lot of us are
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thinking about liberty.
A lot of us are celebrating
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liberty, particularly American
citizens in the United States.
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We celebrate our our liberty
because it is a representation
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of the deal that God has made
with man by endowing him with
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free will and creative free
will, free moral discernment.
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It is because men and women are
able to have moral discernment.
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We can make the decisions, the
right and wrong decisions.
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And it turns out that liberty is
a very valuable thing in, in the
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cosmos.
Our, our revelators go to great
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lengths to to talk about what
good is good liberty and what is
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bad liberty.
And I've been reading the
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Arrancha book now for, I don't
know, 40 years.
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And it's interesting because you
read, if you've been a long time
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reader, I'll share this
experience with you and I think
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you'll be able to relate.
And if you are a new reader,
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then you can look forward to
many, many years of reading the
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same passages.
And over time, your
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interpretation of those passages
will change depending on your
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environment.
So for example, when I was
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younger and I read these words
about liberty, I had a whole
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different perspective of life.
I was 2122 years old and liberty
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meant something completely
different than what it means
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today.
Today liberty is self restraint,
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really, true liberty is control
of self, as the revelators will
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explain to us, and false liberty
is typically destructive and
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suicidal.
Now it is 2024, and as I look
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around today, I see a lot more
false liberty than I see true
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liberty.
And the distinction is that
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what's missing is moral
discernment.
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And I write about this in my
book, which I'm almost done
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with, which is called Godless,
how secularism will Destroy
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civilization.
And it talks about the, the, the
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chance that God endows human
beings with spirit potential by
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giving him free will is the only
way.
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And they've been debating this,
I think if you go back and
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listen to my interview with
Byron Belezos a few months ago
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where he talks about the debate
that has been going on among the
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church and among theologians.
What is free will?
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Are we truly given free will or
does God have predestiny plan
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for everybody?
How can an all knowing, all
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powerful God not know what is in
store for each one of his
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children?
In fact, it is quoted many times
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in Scripture and elsewhere that
there is no surprise to God.
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God knows everything.
He can anticipate anything.
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And all that may be true, except
for the fact that there are some
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caveats to that.
And that's part of what we're
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going to get into here.
Because in the arena of mortal
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life, the most important part of
our life experience is the
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ability to choose between good
and evil and to pursue good not
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only because it's the right
thing to do, because it's the
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godly thing to do.
Godly does all.
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God does all things the right
way.
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And the best way is a quote that
comes to mind.
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The best way is always the right
way.
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And so as we celebrate the
liberty, the declaration of
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liberty of this period and of
our country, what are we really
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celebrating?
Are we celebrating the liberty
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to do whatever we want?
And that there's no holds barred
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and there's real no restriction
on our moral behavior.
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Or are we celebrating the
liberty from an oppressive
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government that would would have
us through compliance, live a
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specific kind of life where they
would control all, all aspects
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of it?
That, I think is the liberty
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that we are celebrating.
We're, we're celebrating the
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liberty that comes from being
endowed by our creator, the
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liberty to have moral
discernment.
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And you know, it's interesting
because it's been said.
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And if you haven't heard it
before, take this to heart.
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But our founding fathers
recognize that only a moral
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people could live with freedom.
And immoral people cannot really
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live with freedom because they
would be destructive, because
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they have no moral boundaries.
And that's what I think I see
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more often now.
Now, there was a woman,
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sometimes you'll read them
something or hear something on
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Instagram or something.
And this was a woman who seemed
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pretty level headed.
And she said she went to a a
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Pride parade.
We just ended Pride month in the
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United States and she went to a
Pride parade in San Francisco.
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And she said that she had been
to many of them, but this
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particular one seemed to cross
the lines of decency.
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And she said there was a lot of
illicit behavior that she'd
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never seen before.
And there was such enthusiasm
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and embracement of it.
So, you know, you can have a
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creative imagination and try to
think about what she's
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describing, but it's it's pretty
horrific.
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And that's the danger, I think
right now and why I wanted to
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bring this up as we contemplate
the importance of liberty, free
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will, moral discernment, the
right way, the best way, living
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the godly way, and having true
liberty, which is control of
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self.
So let's get into 61 or paper
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61.
And this is an excerpt from the
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part on a talks about Lucifer
and Lucifer's folly and how he
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embraced the wrong kind of
liberty when he sought to
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disenfranchise himself from God
and from Christ.
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And here's some of the
paragraphs.
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Liberty is suicidal when
divorced from material justice,
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intellectual fairness, social
forbearance, moral duty, and
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spiritual values.
Liberty is nonexistent apart
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from cosmic reality and all
personality.
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Reality is proportional to its
divine or divinity
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relationships.
And what does that mean?
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Well, in one way it expresses
that because we're all socially
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obligated to serve one another,
my liberty must coincide with
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your liberty.
We must be fair with each other.
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We must have intellectual
fairness, social forbearance,
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and moral duty.
And it's in these circumstances
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when we treat each other with
the same regard for, for
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example, the Golden Rule.
That's where true liberty is not
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divorced from material justice,
but is connected to material
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justice, intellectual fairness
and social forbearance, moral
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duty, divine obligations and
spiritual values.
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And true liberty is expressive
of these things when it's
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connected to our divine
relationships, our cosmic
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obligations to be good people,
to be good going on.
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It says unbridled self will and
unregulated self-expression
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equal unmitigated selfishness,
the Acme of ungodliness.
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Liberty without the associated
and ever increasing conquest of
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the self is a figment of
egoistic mortal imagination.
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Self motivated liberty is a
conceptual illusion, a cruel
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deception.
License masquerading in the
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garments of liberty is the
forerunner of abject bondage.
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They're pretty harsh about that.
True liberty is the associate of
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genuine self respect.
False liberty is the consort of
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self admiration.
True liberty is the fruit of
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self-control, False liberty, the
assumption of self assertion.
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self-control leads to altruistic
service.
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Self admiration tends toward the
exploitation of others for the
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selfish aggrandizement of such
mistaken individual as is
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willing to sacrifice righteous
attainment for the sake of
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possessing unjust power over his
fellow beings.
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Even wisdom is divine and safe
only when it is cosmic in scope
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and spiritual in motivation.
Lucifer's folly was the attempt
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to do the non doable to short
circuit time in an experiential
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universe.
Lucifer's crime was the
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attempted creative
disenfranchisement of every
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personality in his domain.
And he of course, was a system
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sovereign, so he governed what
was then 600 or so planets just
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like ours, many of whom fell
into rebellion.
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Many of Lucifer's followers,
including the angels and
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certainly Satan and later
Calagastia, had convinced all of
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these people that the liberty
they saw, it was self assertion,
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not the liberty that was coming
from the authority of Michael.
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He saw that as not freedom, he
asserted.
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Lucifer asserted that true
freedom was doing what you want
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to do, not what others are
telling you to do.
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Does it sound familiar?
So it writes that Lucifer's
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crime was the attempted creative
disenfranchisement of every
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personality, the unrecognized
abridgment of the creature's
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personal participation, free
will participation in the long
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evolutionary struggle to attain
the status of light and life
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both individually and
collectively.
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In doing so, this one time
sovereign of your system set the
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temporal purpose of his own will
directly athwart the eternal
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purposes of God's will as it is
revealed in the bestowal of free
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will upon all personal creatures
going back to we are endowed by
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our Creator.
The Lucifer rebellion thus
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threatened the maximum possible
infringement of the free will
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choice of the Ascenders and the
servers of the system of his
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domain, Satania.
A threat for evermore to deprive
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every one of these beings in the
thrilling experience of
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contributing something personal
and unique to the slowly
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erecting monument of
experiential wisdom which will
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someday exist as the perfected
system of Satania.
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This includes all of the world's
coming to that future, a state
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of light and life where we
truly, you know, have our own
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self-control.
Think about the Melchizedeks.
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They're one of the few orders of
sonship that they are completely
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self regulatory.
They do not answer to anyone
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else save Michael.
And why is that?
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Because they're responsible with
their liberty.
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They're not haphazard.
And I would submit that we,
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because of the urantial
revelation, have a way of
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introducing to people the idea,
the notion that this isn't just
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one world in, in a sea of stars.
We are part of a greater
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reality.
We are part of a living system,
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and we are all endowed by the
same creator to have and possess
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free will.
Discernment.
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That's the secret to progress
developing our sense of moral
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discernment.
You know, they say that only a
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moral person could be morally
indignated by seeing an immoral
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act.
But when we get to that point
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where we're not even bothered by
immoral behavior, that's when
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the danger comes.
Sin must be redefined as
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deliberate disloyalty to deity.
There are degrees of loyalty,
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the partial loyalty of
indecision, the divided loyalty
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of confliction, the dying
loyalty of indifference, and the
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death of loyalty exhibited in
the devotion to godless ideals.
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So that becomes the question and
the challenge for modern man.
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Can he control himself?
Can he control his urges, his
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materialistic tendencies?
Can he truly rise to the
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occasion and live up to the
expectations that God gives us
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by giving us free will and moral
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lesson for today on the subject
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of liberty and the different
kinds of liberty.
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something from it and it gives
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you something to think about as
we all sort of collectively
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celebrate our independence this
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I've got a great topic.
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something quite intriguing in
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the next episode of the Urantia
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Don't forget, you can always
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urantiabookradio@gmail.com.
And yet, there's also a comment
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section on the website
urantiaradio.net.
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Until the next time, thank you
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Welcome to another wonderful,
wonderful edition of the Urantia
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Radio Podcast.
That's where I get to spend a
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little while with you, talking
about my most favorite subject
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in the whole wide world, the
Urantia book Revelation.
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You know, I take walks now, and
I would recommend it for anybody
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who's looking for a way to kind
of ease their way back into more
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physical activity.
And I forgot, I used to walk a
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lot when I was a kid.
And now that I'm walking every
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day, I start my day with a nice
walk.
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I don't take my Airpods or my
earbuds.
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I don't listen to the radio.
That's my time with my, my inner
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attempt to have conversations
and just feel the presence of
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God in my in my mind and in my
being.
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And often times I come up with a
lot of great ideas on what I
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want to talk about on the next
episode of the podcast.
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And I actually have two
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The 1st is going to be what this
podcast is about, and then the
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next one is going to be about
something that you're hearing
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about in the news, especially if
you listen to news about the
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astronomy or the James Webb
telescope or space discoveries,
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something called a Dyson sphere.
And I'll get into that a little
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bit.
I think you'll be very
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fascinating.
It's going to be the next
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podcast.
But for this one, because it's
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the week where Americans and
people around the world
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celebrate the independence of
the United States, I thought we
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would take a look at liberty,
liberty, human behavior.
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When is liberty good and when is
liberty bad?
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And the turns out that the
Urantia book revelators have a
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lot to teach about the subject.
That's what we're going to get
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into.
Thank you again for stopping by.
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This is the Urantia Radio
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Take a quick break.
You know, a lot of us are
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thinking about liberty.
A lot of us are celebrating
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liberty, particularly American
citizens in the United States.
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We celebrate our our liberty
because it is a representation
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of the deal that God has made
with man by endowing him with
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free will and creative free
will, free moral discernment.
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It is because men and women are
able to have moral discernment.
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We can make the decisions, the
right and wrong decisions.
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And it turns out that liberty is
a very valuable thing in, in the
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cosmos.
Our, our revelators go to great
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lengths to to talk about what
good is good liberty and what is
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bad liberty.
And I've been reading the
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Arrancha book now for, I don't
know, 40 years.
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And it's interesting because you
read, if you've been a long time
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reader, I'll share this
experience with you and I think
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you'll be able to relate.
And if you are a new reader,
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then you can look forward to
many, many years of reading the
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same passages.
And over time, your
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interpretation of those passages
will change depending on your
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environment.
So for example, when I was
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younger and I read these words
about liberty, I had a whole
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different perspective of life.
I was 2122 years old and liberty
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meant something completely
different than what it means
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today.
Today liberty is self restraint,
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really, true liberty is control
of self, as the revelators will
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explain to us, and false liberty
is typically destructive and
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suicidal.
Now it is 2024, and as I look
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around today, I see a lot more
false liberty than I see true
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liberty.
And the distinction is that
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what's missing is moral
discernment.
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And I write about this in my
book, which I'm almost done
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with, which is called Godless,
how secularism will Destroy
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civilization.
And it talks about the, the, the
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chance that God endows human
beings with spirit potential by
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giving him free will is the only
way.
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And they've been debating this,
I think if you go back and
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listen to my interview with
Byron Belezos a few months ago
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where he talks about the debate
that has been going on among the
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church and among theologians.
What is free will?
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Are we truly given free will or
does God have predestiny plan
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for everybody?
How can an all knowing, all
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powerful God not know what is in
store for each one of his
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children?
In fact, it is quoted many times
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in Scripture and elsewhere that
there is no surprise to God.
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God knows everything.
He can anticipate anything.
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And all that may be true, except
for the fact that there are some
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caveats to that.
And that's part of what we're
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going to get into here.
Because in the arena of mortal
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life, the most important part of
our life experience is the
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ability to choose between good
and evil and to pursue good not
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only because it's the right
thing to do, because it's the
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godly thing to do.
Godly does all.
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God does all things the right
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And the best way is a quote that
comes to mind.
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The best way is always the right
way.
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And so as we celebrate the
liberty, the declaration of
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liberty of this period and of
our country, what are we really
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celebrating?
Are we celebrating the liberty
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to do whatever we want?
And that there's no holds barred
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and there's real no restriction
on our moral behavior.
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Or are we celebrating the
liberty from an oppressive
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government that would would have
us through compliance, live a
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specific kind of life where they
would control all, all aspects
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of it?
That, I think is the liberty
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that we are celebrating.
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liberty that comes from being
endowed by our creator, the
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liberty to have moral
discernment.
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And you know, it's interesting
because it's been said.
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And if you haven't heard it
before, take this to heart.
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But our founding fathers
recognize that only a moral
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people could live with freedom.
And immoral people cannot really
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live with freedom because they
would be destructive, because
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they have no moral boundaries.
And that's what I think I see
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more often now.
Now, there was a woman,
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sometimes you'll read them
something or hear something on
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Instagram or something.
And this was a woman who seemed
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pretty level headed.
And she said she went to a a
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Pride parade.
We just ended Pride month in the
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United States and she went to a
Pride parade in San Francisco.
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And she said that she had been
to many of them, but this
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particular one seemed to cross
the lines of decency.
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And she said there was a lot of
illicit behavior that she'd
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never seen before.
And there was such enthusiasm
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and embracement of it.
So, you know, you can have a
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creative imagination and try to
think about what she's
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describing, but it's it's pretty
horrific.
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right now and why I wanted to
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bring this up as we contemplate
the importance of liberty, free
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will, moral discernment, the
right way, the best way, living
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the godly way, and having true
liberty, which is control of
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self.
So let's get into 61 or paper
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61.
And this is an excerpt from the
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part on a talks about Lucifer
and Lucifer's folly and how he
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embraced the wrong kind of
liberty when he sought to
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disenfranchise himself from God
and from Christ.
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And here's some of the
paragraphs.
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Liberty is suicidal when
divorced from material justice,
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intellectual fairness, social
forbearance, moral duty, and
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spiritual values.
Liberty is nonexistent apart
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from cosmic reality and all
personality.
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Reality is proportional to its
divine or divinity
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relationships.
And what does that mean?
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Well, in one way it expresses
that because we're all socially
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obligated to serve one another,
my liberty must coincide with
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your liberty.
We must be fair with each other.
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We must have intellectual
fairness, social forbearance,
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and moral duty.
And it's in these circumstances
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when we treat each other with
the same regard for, for
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example, the Golden Rule.
That's where true liberty is not
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divorced from material justice,
but is connected to material
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justice, intellectual fairness
and social forbearance, moral
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duty, divine obligations and
spiritual values.
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And true liberty is expressive
of these things when it's
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connected to our divine
relationships, our cosmic
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obligations to be good people,
to be good going on.
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It says unbridled self will and
unregulated self-expression
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equal unmitigated selfishness,
the Acme of ungodliness.
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Liberty without the associated
and ever increasing conquest of
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the self is a figment of
egoistic mortal imagination.
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Self motivated liberty is a
conceptual illusion, a cruel
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deception.
License masquerading in the
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garments of liberty is the
forerunner of abject bondage.
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They're pretty harsh about that.
True liberty is the associate of
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genuine self respect.
False liberty is the consort of
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self admiration.
True liberty is the fruit of
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self-control, False liberty, the
assumption of self assertion.
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self-control leads to altruistic
service.
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Self admiration tends toward the
exploitation of others for the
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selfish aggrandizement of such
mistaken individual as is
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willing to sacrifice righteous
attainment for the sake of
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possessing unjust power over his
fellow beings.
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Even wisdom is divine and safe
only when it is cosmic in scope
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and spiritual in motivation.
Lucifer's folly was the attempt
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to do the non doable to short
circuit time in an experiential
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universe.
Lucifer's crime was the
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attempted creative
disenfranchisement of every
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personality in his domain.
And he of course, was a system
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sovereign, so he governed what
was then 600 or so planets just
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like ours, many of whom fell
into rebellion.
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Many of Lucifer's followers,
including the angels and
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certainly Satan and later
Calagastia, had convinced all of
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these people that the liberty
they saw, it was self assertion,
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not the liberty that was coming
from the authority of Michael.
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He saw that as not freedom, he
asserted.
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Lucifer asserted that true
freedom was doing what you want
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to do, not what others are
telling you to do.
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Does it sound familiar?
So it writes that Lucifer's
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crime was the attempted creative
disenfranchisement of every
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personality, the unrecognized
abridgment of the creature's
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personal participation, free
will participation in the long
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evolutionary struggle to attain
the status of light and life
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both individually and
collectively.
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In doing so, this one time
sovereign of your system set the
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temporal purpose of his own will
directly athwart the eternal
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purposes of God's will as it is
revealed in the bestowal of free
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will upon all personal creatures
going back to we are endowed by
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our Creator.
The Lucifer rebellion thus
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threatened the maximum possible
infringement of the free will
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choice of the Ascenders and the
servers of the system of his
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domain, Satania.
A threat for evermore to deprive
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every one of these beings in the
thrilling experience of
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contributing something personal
and unique to the slowly
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erecting monument of
experiential wisdom which will
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someday exist as the perfected
system of Satania.
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This includes all of the world's
coming to that future, a state
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of light and life where we
truly, you know, have our own
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self-control.
Think about the Melchizedeks.
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They're one of the few orders of
sonship that they are completely
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self regulatory.
They do not answer to anyone
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else save Michael.
And why is that?
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Because they're responsible with
their liberty.
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They're not haphazard.
And I would submit that we,
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because of the urantial
revelation, have a way of
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introducing to people the idea,
the notion that this isn't just
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one world in, in a sea of stars.
We are part of a greater
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reality.
We are part of a living system,
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and we are all endowed by the
same creator to have and possess
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free will.
Discernment.
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That's the secret to progress
developing our sense of moral
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discernment.
You know, they say that only a
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moral person could be morally
indignated by seeing an immoral
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act.
But when we get to that point
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where we're not even bothered by
immoral behavior, that's when
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the danger comes.
Sin must be redefined as
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deliberate disloyalty to deity.
There are degrees of loyalty,
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the partial loyalty of
indecision, the divided loyalty
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of confliction, the dying
loyalty of indifference, and the
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death of loyalty exhibited in
the devotion to godless ideals.
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So that becomes the question and
the challenge for modern man.
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Can he control himself?
Can he control his urges, his
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materialistic tendencies?
Can he truly rise to the
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occasion and live up to the
expectations that God gives us
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by giving us free will and moral
discernment?
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And I guess that would be our
lesson for today on the subject
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of liberty and the different
kinds of liberty.
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And I hope that you got
something from it and it gives
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you something to think about as
we all sort of collectively
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celebrate our independence this
week.
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Hope you'll join me again soon.
I've got a great topic.
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We're going to talk about
something quite intriguing in
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the next episode of the Urantia
Radio Podcast.
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Don't forget, you can always
reach out to me,
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urantiabookradio@gmail.com.
And yet, there's also a comment
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section on the website
urantiaradio.net.
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Until the next time, thank you
again for stopping by
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the
the.